From Raanan Twitter: OBJ and LC staying put?

"no shit" category. Two very good players who are part of the future and not the problems of the past.

Thank you. Keeping two of their better players one under contract with a big dead money cap hit if traded this year and another they can tag so they don't lose him for nothing but a potential comp pick is news?

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Collins would have been moved last year, if they weren't in their plan.

In comment 14302988 George from PA said:

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Collins would have been moved last year, if they weren't in their plan.

They did try to move Collins last year. Nobody bit.

In comment 14302991 robbieballs2003 said:

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In comment 14302988 George from PA said: Quote: Collins would have been moved last year, if they weren't in their plan. They did try to move Collins last year. Nobody bit.

Not true. Chiefs offered a 3. DG wanted a 2 if rumors were correct.

what a douche.

In other news, the sun rose on the east this morning

Thanks Jordan

OBJ is going to go back to LA, enjoy the sunshine, hang out with celebrities, tweet about how awesome it is, and the media is going to turn it into rumors he’s being traded.

Maybe it will actually happen one day, but I highly doubt there’s any truth to it the year after we paid him

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In comment 14302991 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: In comment 14302988 George from PA said: Quote: Collins would have been moved last year, if they weren't in their plan. They did try to move Collins last year. Nobody bit. Not true. Chiefs offered a 3. DG wanted a 2 if rumors were correct.

Not sure what isn't true about it. Would it be better if I said nobody bit at DG's asking price?

The link is to Jason at OTC. While some prefer OTC and their information isn't wrong, it is just that the site looks like it was designed by a 10th grade student with ADHD. My personal preference is to use Spotrac as it doesn't give me headaches from the awful site design.
Original link to twitter. - ( New Window )

said he doubted the Giants would put any tag on Collins because of the 12.4M price tag.

In comment 14303012 Diver_Down said:

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The link is to Jason at OTC. While some prefer OTC and their information isn't wrong, it is just that the site looks like it was designed by a 10th grade student with ADHD. My personal preference is to use Spotrac as it doesn't give me headaches from the awful site design. Original link to twitter. - ( New Window )

The comments in the OP are from Ranaan, in response to all the rumors (and Jason at OTC in particular):

https://twitter.com/JordanRaanan/status/1098609377404059648?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

With regard to any personnel issue, the pertinent consideration is what will further the goal of proving they can win one more time with Eli.

OBJ was never going to be traded and taken away from Eli. Sure, DG may have asked for pie-in-the-sky that he knew wasn't realistic.

Collins almost certainly gets a contract structured like the one OBJ got last year got with the first year cap hit massaged to be as low as possible.

That will maximize the leftover to be spent an other assets for the coming season. And every penny will be spent.

..so confused

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With regard to any personnel issue, the pertinent consideration is what will further the goal of proving they can win one more time with Eli. OBJ was never going to be traded and taken away from Eli. Sure, DG may have asked for pie-in-the-sky that he knew wasn't realistic. Collins almost certainly gets a contract structured like the one OBJ got last year got with the first year cap hit massaged to be as low as possible. That will maximize the leftover to be spent an other assets for the coming season. And every penny will be spent.

I really don't think the team has a goal to prove they can win with Eli. They are not just keeping Eli to make a point. The question that needs to be asked is what better option is there right now? What QB gives us a better chance to win in 2019... and will he sign a one year, relatively cheap deal?

Yet no sign from Giants on sniffing a franchise tag....

Collins has missed playing time the last two seasons.....has not played anywhere near the 2016 Collins.....can't cover....

I have to laugh when I hear people say, he looks bad because of the players around him are bad....would LT look back surrounded by these guys? He is is not a play maker.....he is noted for his tackling, but he has had his fair share of misses, and what is more alarming is how he takes himself out of plays.....

And yet, despite all that, let's sign him to a large contract, despite what we have seen from him the last 2 years.....how the hell did he get all pro recognition these last two years?

Pay big bucks for him.....then you can put him up on the pedestal beside OV.....only this time you know what you were getting....

Collins will go to the highest bidder if we don't franchise him....I hope we don't do either.....overpaying him is cap space that should be used elsewhere....

Is untradable. OBJs contract is probably the biggest blocker to him being dealt. If you think all sides are singing kumbaya, you're kidding yourself.

As long as they continue straddling the line between a rebuild and winning now, we'll see speculation. And don't expect NYG to come outright and squash it either.

is staying. He's a Strong Safety. Very good player, not great in coverage, not a secondary QB. If he walks maybe they could have a shot at Carolina RT.