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NYG have discussed trading Olivier Vernon

Anakim : 3/1/2019 11:40 am
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The #Giants have discussed the possibility of trading LB Olivier Vernon, sources tell me and @RapSheet. The big score of free agency a few years ago, Vernon might have played his last down as a Giant.
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RE: Okwara would have been cheaper  
eric2425ny : 3/1/2019 10:26 pm : link
In comment 14311237 Eric from BBI said:
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Field Yates
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3h3 hours ago

The Lions have signed DE Romeo Okawara to a two-year extension. He led the team with 7.5 sacks in 2018 after getting cut by the Giants in the preseason.


I live in Detroit and my buddies at work always ask me why the hell did we cut Okwara, while being thankful at the same time lol.
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christian : 3/1/2019 10:55 pm : link
Good thing the Giants have the irreplaceable Kareem Martin at 6M this year.
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Go Terps : 3/1/2019 11:01 pm : link
In comment 14311247 christian said:
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Good thing the Giants have the irreplaceable Kareem Martin at 6M this year.


That guy costs more against the cap than Patrick Mahomes.
Guys guys, the roster was so bad already  
NoGainDayne : 3/1/2019 11:29 pm : link
they HAD to make these kinds of moves.
RE: Guys guys, the roster was so bad already  
christian : 3/1/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14311261 NoGainDayne said:
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they HAD to make these kinds of moves.


Yup -- there was no other choice. The hell with value.

I mean without these signings the Giants might have lost double digit games.
Be careful with this "value" talk  
NoGainDayne : 3/1/2019 11:40 pm : link
you are getting dangerously close to the dreaded "A-word" when it clearly has no place in discussions like this.

You might wake up a troll.
Do you..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/1/2019 11:43 pm : link
really need to be told time and again to go fuck yourself?
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christian : 3/1/2019 11:45 pm : link
Yes, the A word. Don't want to go there.

Don't need the A when you've got culture on your mind.
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short lease : 3/1/2019 11:50 pm : link
In comment 14311248 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14311247 christian said:


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Good thing the Giants have the irreplaceable Kareem Martin at 6M this year.



That guy costs more against the cap than Patrick Mahomes.


Not for long ...
This is educational i'm going to have to keep a list  
NoGainDayne : 3/2/2019 12:02 am : link
1. Can't use the "A-word" even when you explain the relevance

2. Can't joke about potentially using the "A-word"

3. Can't mention Gettleman was fired as a knock against him because "it wasn't his fault"

4. Can't extrapolate people's capabilities based on listed qualifications

5. Can't use what people say in public to infer what they are thinking

6. Can't assume how much game theory someone understands by how well you see it applied, singular articles must instead be used as reference

Are there any other sensitivities I need to keep in mind for the person I've watched insult people for over 15 years?
RE: Vernon and a 3rd  
Leg of Theismann : 3/2/2019 4:11 am : link
In comment 14310651 Jon in NYC said:
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for Rosen


Other than the fact we don't have a 3rd round pick... that would be a horrendous trade for the Cardinals. Give up their #10 overall franchise QB (who is on a cheap rookie deal) for an injury-prone $15M vet and a 3rd rounder? When people post things like this I always just want to be like "if the tables were turned would you want the Giants to make that move?" BBI would implode.

#37 and Vernon for Rosen sounds slightly more reasonable.
RE: I think if anything it will be a 5th or so.  
gmenatlarge : 3/2/2019 5:08 am : link
In comment 14311194 yatqb said:
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A team that trades for him has to take his cap hit. I'm thinking it would be less than we gave for Ogletree.


+1 What team is going to give up anything of value for an oft-injured, overpaid, under-performing player, face it, the giants are probably stuck with OV for one more year.
RE: Trade him to Arizona  
BigBlueJuice : 3/2/2019 8:09 am : link
In comment 14310646 Rjanyg said:
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Get their 3rd round pick, or 4th round pick and use both our early 4ths to move up into the 3rd


Maybe trade him for rosen if they decide to go with murray and bam fixed qb problem. Then can focus draft on o and d line and lbs and s.
RE: RE: RE: Colts make a ton of sense  
BigBlueJuice : 3/2/2019 8:12 am : link
In comment 14310921 WillVAB said:
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I wouldnt mind they cut OV or trade him and pick up Demarcus Lawrence from cowboys since cowboys have to pay zeke, dak, and lawrence. With witten back got to pay that man too. So chance cowboys cant afford all of them.

In comment 14310794 WillVAB said:


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Zero pass rush and a ton of money.



By that logic, so do the Jets. But they're short picks already.



Colts were a playoff team last year and probably think getting a viable pass rush will get them over the hump. Vernon had one of his few decent performances vs the Colts last year. If the Colts strike out on pass rushers in FA I could see them being very interested.
If you are using Gettleman's firing as a knock against him,  
Zeke's Alibi : 3/2/2019 8:29 am : link
considering the situation, really questions your critical thinking skills.
RE: Okwara would have been cheaper  
Pan-handler : 3/2/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14311237 Eric from BBI said:
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Field Yates
‏Verified account @FieldYates
3h3 hours ago

The Lions have signed DE Romeo Okawara to a two-year extension. He led the team with 7.5 sacks in 2018 after getting cut by the Giants in the preseason.


Reeses FA finds are showing up in a big way on other teams. Harrison, JPP, Okwara.

I think DG had an amazing draft but his FA additions /subtractions left alot to be desired
RE: If you are using Gettleman's firing as a knock against him,  
NoGainDayne : 3/2/2019 10:44 am : link
In comment 14311357 Zeke's Alibi said:
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considering the situation, really questions your critical thinking skills.


It doesnt mean he didnt deserve a new job but getting fired is always partially your fault. No way around it. You dont get very far in life pointing fingers at others and at the very least speaks to his prickly personality which does not help when recruiting technical talent.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Makes it more belivable  
90.Cal : 3/2/2019 2:02 pm : link
In comment 14310649 Anakim said:
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In comment 14310586 Anakim said:


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that Gary, Allen, and Sweat are going to be in the fold at 6.



I like Burns more than Sweat. Burns is my #7 guy in this class.



Your #7 guy... okay Mayock. Just kidding. I need to see more of Sweat, Burns and Polite..



Thanks to The Draft Network, I have my own 90 man Draft Board


Didnt know you could do that. Pretty cool. Save a final copy and post it for fun this time next year.
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