is that same devious smile while she holds the wine glass. I wonder who gets the honor of killing her - Jamie's the clear favorite, but perhaps there's a twist that puts a new spin on that "valonqar" prophecy.
when i say "anything" i mean right in your face. I'm sure reddit concluded the final scene from the trailer somehow
I think they purposely put in one or two minor reveals in these that can only be figured out by the crazies on Reddit--keeps their most rabid fans into it.
will feature the longest battle sequence every captured on screen - movie or tv, and it will be the battle of winterfell
Looked like the Battle of Winterfell that was about to begin at the end of the trailer. Detail in the link. I seriously cannot wait for this Link - ( New Window )
I really, really want to be wowed by how this series wraps up. I haven't been wowed much by it over the last couple seasons. But they've had a lot of time to plan how to end this, so I can only hope they get it right.
I can't wait. Pretty soon, my wife will be running out of the living room on Sunday nights again when she hears the theme song start. :D
I feel like I'm in the minority, but Bran's journey has always intrigued me. The people who know what's coming - Bloodraven, Jojen Reed, half-dead Benjen - were obsessed with Bran, which means he plays an integral role in defeating the White Walkers. I just don't know what that is. For awhile I bought into the theory that he wargs into the Night King somehow and Jon kills him, but that's been shot down by the reddit experts and the actor himself. Is he gonna pull another Hodor trick and warg into a human? It's always fascinated me.
I feel like I'm in the minority, but Bran's journey has always intrigued me. The people who know what's coming - Bloodraven, Jojen Reed, half-dead Benjen - were obsessed with Bran, which means he plays an integral role in defeating the White Walkers. I just don't know what that is. For awhile I bought into the theory that he wargs into the Night King somehow and Jon kills him, but that's been shot down by the reddit experts and the actor himself. Is he gonna pull another Hodor trick and warg into a human? It's always fascinated me.
Do you mind linking where that was shot down? Dont have time to Google rn. Thanks!
No one's going to reveal anything anyway, so I'm not sure how much stock to put into it. Clearly, Bran is involved in some crazy shit to help win this war. Bran - ( New Window )
In the season 1 histories and lores, which is the DVD animated extras where they go into more of the world building the books provide that they don't have time to do in the show...the section on the legendary "Bran the Builder" is quite intriguing. What was noticed by people is Bran the Builder in every animated shot that is shown, is depicted as either being carried, lifted, or dragged. Never upright on his own two feet, never walking.
Now is this just a coincidence, or hint at something more? Is the Bran we know, Bran the Builder gone back in time? And if so, then some form of time machinations (I won't call it travel) seem likely to play into the end of the story.
Now is this just a coincidence, or hint at something more? Is the Bran we know, Bran the Builder gone back in time? And if so, then some form of time machinations (I won't call it travel) seem likely to play into the end of the story.
Thanks for sharing this, I had never known of that possible connection.
Another thing that's been hinted - which may or may not involve Bran - is the possible connection between the Starks and the White Walkers, and how that may save them. Is the Night King a Stark? Is there something in the crypts of Winterfell that could save them? It hasn't been explored as much in the show, but you repeatedly hear the Starks say, "There must always be a Stark at Winterfell." It sounds like there's something more to that than just an innocent family mantra.
is that same devious smile while she holds the wine glass. I wonder who gets the honor of killing her - Jamie's the clear favorite, but perhaps there's a twist that puts a new spin on that "valonqar" prophecy.
My money is on Jammie or if he dies Arya takes his face.
I feel like I'm in the minority, but Bran's journey has always intrigued me. The people who know what's coming - Bloodraven, Jojen Reed, half-dead Benjen - were obsessed with Bran, which means he plays an integral role in defeating the White Walkers. I just don't know what that is. For awhile I bought into the theory that he wargs into the Night King somehow and Jon kills him, but that's been shot down by the reddit experts and the actor himself. Is he gonna pull another Hodor trick and warg into a human? It's always fascinated me.
His story is my favorite as well followed by Arya. The main stories are great but you for the most part know what they are. These allow a little flexibility in what they can do.
is definitely interesting, but way too boring to spend a ton of time in a final season with just 6 episodes.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
is definitely interesting, but way too boring to spend a ton of time in a final season with just 6 episodes.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
But there weren't any dogs on the battlefield, I don't think. Ricon (who is such a throwaway character) was killed by Ramsay's arrow.
I could see Bran becoming a tree. He's as useful as one.
is definitely interesting, but way too boring to spend a ton of time in a final season with just 6 episodes.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
The problem is once he became the Three-Eyed Raven he was no longer Bran Stark. This comes up when someone tells him he's the true heir to Winterfell and he responds something along the lines of "nah." I think he's singularly focused on defeating the Night's King (although I could be wrong, because he does tell Sansa that Littlefinger betrayed Ned).
is definitely interesting, but way too boring to spend a ton of time in a final season with just 6 episodes.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
The problem is once he became the Three-Eyed Raven he was no longer Bran Stark. This comes up when someone tells him he's the true heir to Winterfell and he responds something along the lines of "nah." I think he's singularly focused on defeating the Night's King (although I could be wrong, because he does tell Sansa that Littlefinger betrayed Ned).
Who is the absolute worst, most horrible character of them all? Sersei? Ramsay? Joffrey?
You can say that Sersei is redeemable by how much she loved her children and how she would do anything for them. Ramsay was just plain mentally insane, and Joffrey was weak and inadequate, which translated into his cruelness.
Who is the absolute worst, most horrible character of them all? Sersei? Ramsay? Joffrey?
You can say that Sersei is redeemable by how much she loved her children and how she would do anything for them. Ramsay was just plain mentally insane, and Joffrey was weak and inadequate, which translated into his cruelness.
Cersei is my far the worst character. She is essentially the Mad Queen. I predicted that Jaime would face an almost exact situation as he faced with the Mad King. He will plead for her to surrender and she will order Qyburn to burn the entire city and Jaime will kill them both.
is that they put the women, children, and Varys in the Starks crypt when they have the night king marching on winterfell. As we all know the night king can raise the dead and the crypt is filled with generations of dead Starks.
toward the end of the story, when George RR Martin told them - the Hodor revelation, and something that happens at the very end. If that other shocker is dead Starks rising from the crypts to fight with or against the Army of the Dead, it would be insane.
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I get that we've already seen whole skeletons fighting and all but some of these dead Starks have been there for thousands of years. Would there even be anything left? If it turns out this was always part of the story plan from George RR Martin, my guess is the point of it was to get Lyanna reanimated and have some kind of interplay with Jon Snow. That would be kind of brutal actually for Jon to have to see and deal with that.
The books have dropped more hints about possible links between the Starks and White Walkers, and things that may be in the crypts at Winterfell that could help win the "great war," but the show really hasn't laid any groundwork for that. Not sure you could pull off having a headless Ned Stark running around Winterfell at this point.
The experts claim the trailer only showed scenes from the first half of the final season, so there's crazy stuff going down at the end. I thought the show lost its way a bit in recent seasons, but I can't wait to see the conclusion - it's been two years in the making.
So all this shitting on Jon Snow by GoT fans is interesting
I think Jon Snow's a fairly popular character. The actor who plays him is a little stiff, but I think most people root for the character to kick ass. Arya's the most popular of the family though.
RE: The showrunners said two things blew them away Â
toward the end of the story, when George RR Martin told them - the Hodor revelation, and something that happens at the very end. If that other shocker is dead Starks rising from the crypts to fight with or against the Army of the Dead, it would be insane.
I'm thinking that the other revelation is that Night King is a stark or Bran is Brandon the builder.
I get that we've already seen whole skeletons fighting and all but some of these dead Starks have been there for thousands of years. Would there even be anything left? If it turns out this was always part of the story plan from George RR Martin, my guess is the point of it was to get Lyanna reanimated and have some kind of interplay with Jon Snow. That would be kind of brutal actually for Jon to have to see and deal with that.
It can only be something unthinkable that scares Arya in the beginning of the trailer. I'm thinking that either a dead relative who was awaken by the night king. If it was just a bunch of white walkers I think she would have stood her ground and fought them but it is clearly something significant.
Another explanation is that she could just be setting a trap like she did in Braavos.
I get that we've already seen whole skeletons fighting and all but some of these dead Starks have been there for thousands of years. Would there even be anything left? If it turns out this was always part of the story plan from George RR Martin, my guess is the point of it was to get Lyanna reanimated and have some kind of interplay with Jon Snow. That would be kind of brutal actually for Jon to have to see and deal with that.
It can only be something unthinkable that scares Arya in the beginning of the trailer. I'm thinking that either a dead relative who was awaken by the night king. If it was just a bunch of white walkers I think she would have stood her ground and fought them but it is clearly something significant.
Another explanation is that she could just be setting a trap like she did in Braavos.
toward the end of the story, when George RR Martin told them - the Hodor revelation, and something that happens at the very end. If that other shocker is dead Starks rising from the crypts to fight with or against the Army of the Dead, it would be insane.
I'm thinking that the other revelation is that Night King is a stark or Bran is Brandon the builder.
Maybe John is azor ahai and has to kill Daenerys to be able to kill the night king?
when i say "anything" i mean right in your face. I'm sure reddit concluded the final scene from the trailer somehow
Oh yeah, there's frame-by-frame analysis going on as we speak.
when i say "anything" i mean right in your face. I'm sure reddit concluded the final scene from the trailer somehow
That is pretty damn funny, and definitely true.
when i say "anything" i mean right in your face. I'm sure reddit concluded the final scene from the trailer somehow
I think they purposely put in one or two minor reveals in these that can only be figured out by the crazies on Reddit--keeps their most rabid fans into it.
Looked like the Battle of Winterfell that was about to begin at the end of the trailer. Detail in the link. I seriously cannot wait for this
Link - ( New Window )
I can't wait. Pretty soon, my wife will be running out of the living room on Sunday nights again when she hears the theme song start. :D
Do you mind linking where that was shot down? Dont have time to Google rn. Thanks!
Bran - ( New Window )
Now is this just a coincidence, or hint at something more? Is the Bran we know, Bran the Builder gone back in time? And if so, then some form of time machinations (I won't call it travel) seem likely to play into the end of the story.
Maybe it counteracts the incest?
Thanks for sharing this, I had never known of that possible connection.
Another thing that's been hinted - which may or may not involve Bran - is the possible connection between the Starks and the White Walkers, and how that may save them. Is the Night King a Stark? Is there something in the crypts of Winterfell that could save them? It hasn't been explored as much in the show, but you repeatedly hear the Starks say, "There must always be a Stark at Winterfell." It sounds like there's something more to that than just an innocent family mantra.
My money is on Jammie or if he dies Arya takes his face.
His story is my favorite as well followed by Arya. The main stories are great but you for the most part know what they are. These allow a little flexibility in what they can do.
If that doesn't happen, I suspect Tyrion is involved in some way in her death.
BranTheBuilder - ( New Window )
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
But there weren't any dogs on the battlefield, I don't think. Ricon (who is such a throwaway character) was killed by Ramsay's arrow.
I could see Bran becoming a tree. He's as useful as one.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
The problem is once he became the Three-Eyed Raven he was no longer Bran Stark. This comes up when someone tells him he's the true heir to Winterfell and he responds something along the lines of "nah." I think he's singularly focused on defeating the Night's King (although I could be wrong, because he does tell Sansa that Littlefinger betrayed Ned).
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is definitely interesting, but way too boring to spend a ton of time in a final season with just 6 episodes.
I kind of thought he'd just wind up intertwined with a tree and left to live out his life through the raven and warging.
And I was initially disappointed he couldn't use animals (or people) the way Beastmaster did and help in battle more or even do things like save Rickon. He already mastered his "trade" by then, so I wasn't going to say avoid the red wedding or his fathers beheading, but saving Rickon seems like he should have been able to do by maybe warging into one of Ramsey's dogs or something and turn on him.
The problem is once he became the Three-Eyed Raven he was no longer Bran Stark. This comes up when someone tells him he's the true heir to Winterfell and he responds something along the lines of "nah." I think he's singularly focused on defeating the Night's King (although I could be wrong, because he does tell Sansa that Littlefinger betrayed Ned).
Kind of like how Arya was a no-name
You can say that Sersei is redeemable by how much she loved her children and how she would do anything for them. Ramsay was just plain mentally insane, and Joffrey was weak and inadequate, which translated into his cruelness.
You can say that Sersei is redeemable by how much she loved her children and how she would do anything for them. Ramsay was just plain mentally insane, and Joffrey was weak and inadequate, which translated into his cruelness.
Cersei is my far the worst character. She is essentially the Mad Queen. I predicted that Jaime would face an almost exact situation as he faced with the Mad King. He will plead for her to surrender and she will order Qyburn to burn the entire city and Jaime will kill them both.
Mind would...be.......blown
I think Jon Snow's a fairly popular character. The actor who plays him is a little stiff, but I think most people root for the character to kick ass. Arya's the most popular of the family though.
I'm thinking that the other revelation is that Night King is a stark or Bran is Brandon the builder.
It can only be something unthinkable that scares Arya in the beginning of the trailer. I'm thinking that either a dead relative who was awaken by the night king. If it was just a bunch of white walkers I think she would have stood her ground and fought them but it is clearly something significant.
Another explanation is that she could just be setting a trap like she did in Braavos.
Tyrion killing Cersei would be more telegraphed than Jamie IMO.
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I get that we've already seen whole skeletons fighting and all but some of these dead Starks have been there for thousands of years. Would there even be anything left? If it turns out this was always part of the story plan from George RR Martin, my guess is the point of it was to get Lyanna reanimated and have some kind of interplay with Jon Snow. That would be kind of brutal actually for Jon to have to see and deal with that.
It can only be something unthinkable that scares Arya in the beginning of the trailer. I'm thinking that either a dead relative who was awaken by the night king. If it was just a bunch of white walkers I think she would have stood her ground and fought them but it is clearly something significant.
Another explanation is that she could just be setting a trap like she did in Braavos.
Maybe the shows version of a lady stone heart
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Although that's kinda telegraphed, so maybe that doesn't count as a surprise.
Tyrion killing Cersei would be more telegraphed than Jamie IMO.
Arya using Jammie’s face killing Cersei?
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toward the end of the story, when George RR Martin told them - the Hodor revelation, and something that happens at the very end. If that other shocker is dead Starks rising from the crypts to fight with or against the Army of the Dead, it would be insane.
I'm thinking that the other revelation is that Night King is a stark or Bran is Brandon the builder.
Maybe John is azor ahai and has to kill Daenerys to be able to kill the night king?