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KDubbs : 3/5/2019 11:12 am
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I always enjoy Arya's face swaps  
bceagle05 : 3/6/2019 5:30 pm : link
but I feel like it would be going to the well one too many times if she pulled that trick with Cersei, too. Feels like Jaime or Tyrion should have that moment.

Jon killing Dany definitely seems like an appropriate Game of Thrones ending.

Curious to see how Tyrion's story ends - if he lives, does he finally get Casterly Rock to himself?
I doubt Tyrion would kill Cersei  
Jay on the Island : 3/6/2019 6:00 pm : link
Cersei appeared to manipulate him during their private meeting during the finale. I could actually see him betraying Dany at some point which I would hate to see as he is one of my favorite characters.
RE: I doubt Tyrion would kill Cersei  
pjcas18 : 3/6/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14318137 Jay on the Island said:
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Cersei appeared to manipulate him during their private meeting during the finale. I could actually see him betraying Dany at some point which I would hate to see as he is one of my favorite characters.


If the prophecy is to be true, the options of who kills Cersei are somewhat limited.

I can definitely see Tyrion doing it, but in a "blaze of glory" kind of way of killing her, his older sister - his blood, "for the greater good" while allowing a Stark or anyone really to live. Tyrion is Martin's favorite character I don't see him betraying Dany, but who knows, not sure Martin is calling the shots or if he is to what extent.

Plus, not to spoil things if Martin is still involved, but he's said 5 character survive through to the end of the story and Dany was one of them, so if Tyrion (also a survivor) does betray her it won't cause her demise - if Martin still has sway over the plot.

I did read that Benioff and Weiss know Martin's planned ending, if they stay true to that, no idea.
RE: RE: I doubt Tyrion would kill Cersei  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14318151 pjcas18 said:
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Cersei appeared to manipulate him during their private meeting during the finale. I could actually see him betraying Dany at some point which I would hate to see as he is one of my favorite characters.



If the prophecy is to be true, the options of who kills Cersei are somewhat limited.

I can definitely see Tyrion doing it, but in a "blaze of glory" kind of way of killing her, his older sister - his blood, "for the greater good" while allowing a Stark or anyone really to live. Tyrion is Martin's favorite character I don't see him betraying Dany, but who knows, not sure Martin is calling the shots or if he is to what extent.

Plus, not to spoil things if Martin is still involved, but he's said 5 character survive through to the end of the story and Dany was one of them, so if Tyrion (also a survivor) does betray her it won't cause her demise - if Martin still has sway over the plot.

I did read that Benioff and Weiss know Martin's planned ending, if they stay true to that, no idea.

If he does have influence then I think Arya and Jon Snow also make it to the end. Arya is Martin’s wife’s favorite character and she made him promise that he wouldn’t kill Arya until at least the finale if at all. Personally I think Dany dies but I hope she makes it. I also think Sansa survives and rules winterfell.
RE: RE: RE: I doubt Tyrion would kill Cersei  
pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14318709 Jay on the Island said:
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Cersei appeared to manipulate him during their private meeting during the finale. I could actually see him betraying Dany at some point which I would hate to see as he is one of my favorite characters.



If the prophecy is to be true, the options of who kills Cersei are somewhat limited.

I can definitely see Tyrion doing it, but in a "blaze of glory" kind of way of killing her, his older sister - his blood, "for the greater good" while allowing a Stark or anyone really to live. Tyrion is Martin's favorite character I don't see him betraying Dany, but who knows, not sure Martin is calling the shots or if he is to what extent.

Plus, not to spoil things if Martin is still involved, but he's said 5 character survive through to the end of the story and Dany was one of them, so if Tyrion (also a survivor) does betray her it won't cause her demise - if Martin still has sway over the plot.

I did read that Benioff and Weiss know Martin's planned ending, if they stay true to that, no idea.


If he does have influence then I think Arya and Jon Snow also make it to the end. Arya is Martin’s wife’s favorite character and she made him promise that he wouldn’t kill Arya until at least the finale if at all. Personally I think Dany dies but I hope she makes it. I also think Sansa survives and rules winterfell.


not sure if it's in total or not, but Martin has said 5 people survive to the end, Dany, Tyrion, Jon Snow, Sansa, and Arya. Not sure if they are the only survivors, if the show writers will be consistent with that, or if it was a ruse by Martin, but he's on record as saying that.
that trailer made me think Cersei could survive  
Eric on Li : 3/7/2019 9:41 am : link
i never considered that as an option, but that could be part of the bittersweet ending Martin has spoken about. Whoever survives the battle of winterfell just decides to stay in the North. Though I guess it seems unlikely there won't be some kind of clegane reunion (among other interactions between people starting the season in the north and south).

The trailer was amazing, I was getting worried at my own lack of excitement in general because so much time has passed, but it really looks like they went all out. I'm a little bit worried about the golden company storyline just bc it's diverged so much from the books and it seems like a risk to introduce any major aspect of the story in the final few episodes.
PJ  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 9:53 am : link
I don’t see how Cersei survives. Had she not betrayed Dany I think this was possible but unless she successfully defeats Danys army I don’t see anyway they let her live. One thing I wonder is if Daario Naharis is going to play a part with the Golden company. He is nearby after being left to protect Mereen after Dany left behind by Dany. Could he have heard that Euron was hiring the golden company against Dany and he infiltrate the golden company?
Sorry for my grammar errors  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 9:54 am : link
I hate posting on my phone.
RE: PJ  
pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 9:57 am : link
In comment 14318758 Jay on the Island said:
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I don’t see how Cersei survives. Had she not betrayed Dany I think this was possible but unless she successfully defeats Danys army I don’t see anyway they let her live. One thing I wonder is if Daario Naharis is going to play a part with the Golden company. He is nearby after being left to protect Mereen after Dany left behind by Dany. Could he have heard that Euron was hiring the golden company against Dany and he infiltrate the golden company?


I definitely don't think Cersei survives.
RE: PJ  
Eric on Li : 3/7/2019 9:58 am : link
In comment 14318758 Jay on the Island said:
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I don’t see how Cersei survives. Had she not betrayed Dany I think this was possible but unless she successfully defeats Danys army I don’t see anyway they let her live. One thing I wonder is if Daario Naharis is going to play a part with the Golden company. He is nearby after being left to protect Mereen after Dany left behind by Dany. Could he have heard that Euron was hiring the golden company against Dany and he infiltrate the golden company?


That's a good golden company theory and aligns with some of themes from the book in terms of various factions with different loyalties embedding themselves within the ranks. Would also have to think there's no way Varys doesn't get some kind of a heads up.
Wow I’m on a roll today  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 9:58 am : link
That was Eric.
I’m convinced  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 10:01 am : link
That the key to defeating the nights king lies in the crypt as theories have suggested. The combination of the crypts, Sam, and Bran will figure out how.
RE: I’m convinced  
Eric on Li : 3/7/2019 10:04 am : link
In comment 14318778 Jay on the Island said:
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That the key to defeating the nights king lies in the crypt as theories have suggested. The combination of the crypts, Sam, and Bran will figure out how.


I could see that - every teaser/trailer has had the crypts involved in some way. We know there's a stark connection. That's probably the safest bet for the final "hodor" moment, hopefully it's just as unexpected in the reveal.
I just saw this  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 10:29 am : link
Look at picture 4. If you zoom in at the bottom left of the picture it looks a little like Daario standing on the ship in front of the golden company.
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Gotta think a dragon or two dies  
Anakim : 3/7/2019 10:49 am : link
Some betrayals (Jaime/Cersei, Sansa and Littlefinger/Jon Snow), Tyrion seeing Jaime and Cersei again, Jon reunited with Arya...




Or all of that may have happened. I have to start S7. Haha
RE: Gotta think a dragon or two dies  
Giantology : 3/7/2019 10:50 am : link
In comment 14318874 Anakim said:
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Some betrayals (Jaime/Cersei, Sansa and Littlefinger/Jon Snow), Tyrion seeing Jaime and Cersei again, Jon reunited with Arya...




Or all of that may have happened. I have to start S7. Haha


Dude, stop posting and start watching S7!
RE: RE: Gotta think a dragon or two dies  
Anakim : 3/7/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14318878 Giantology said:
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Some betrayals (Jaime/Cersei, Sansa and Littlefinger/Jon Snow), Tyrion seeing Jaime and Cersei again, Jon reunited with Arya...




Or all of that may have happened. I have to start S7. Haha



Dude, stop posting and start watching S7!


I'm at work! Haha
RE: Gotta think a dragon or two dies  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 11:06 am : link
In comment 14318874 Anakim said:
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Some betrayals (Jaime/Cersei, Sansa and Littlefinger/Jon Snow), Tyrion seeing Jaime and Cersei again, Jon reunited with Arya...




Or all of that may have happened. I have to start S7. Haha

I would not be the least bit surprised if all the Dragons die or just Drogon survives. It was leaked that this season contains betrayal. The most likely character is Sansa. I could see her becoming a less evil version of Cersei who she admitted she admired and learned a lot from. She clearly desires to rule the north and obviously Jon and Dany stand in her way.
Anak please get off this thread lol  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 11:08 am : link
I don't want to spoil season 7 for you.
RE: Anak please get off this thread lol  
Anakim : 3/7/2019 11:23 am : link
In comment 14318927 Jay on the Island said:
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I don't want to spoil season 7 for you.


It's cool. I don't mind spoilers
RE: RE: Gotta think a dragon or two dies  
Anakim : 3/7/2019 11:33 am : link
In comment 14318924 Jay on the Island said:
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Some betrayals (Jaime/Cersei, Sansa and Littlefinger/Jon Snow), Tyrion seeing Jaime and Cersei again, Jon reunited with Arya...




Or all of that may have happened. I have to start S7. Haha


I would not be the least bit surprised if all the Dragons die or just Drogon survives. It was leaked that this season contains betrayal. The most likely character is Sansa. I could see her becoming a less evil version of Cersei who she admitted she admired and learned a lot from. She clearly desires to rule the north and obviously Jon and Dany stand in her way.



I like that idea. Sansa going Anakin.

And the series contains a lot of foils. Jon Snow and Ramsay Bolton. Ned Stark and Roos. Joffrey and Robb. Jon Snow and Tyrion. Theon and Jon Snow, Jaime and Loris...


Dany is probably the closest foil to Sansa, but they are very similar unlike the previously mentioned pairs. So perhaps, Sansa does go to the Dark Side and aligns herself with Littlefinger against her family.
LOL  
Motley Two : 3/7/2019 12:21 pm : link
You don't belong here.
Geez  
Anakim : 3/7/2019 12:23 pm : link
A lot of shit must've gone down in S7...Haha
...  
Motley Two : 3/7/2019 12:48 pm : link


RE: I just saw this  
bigbluehoya : 3/7/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14318827 Jay on the Island said:
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Look at picture 4. If you zoom in at the bottom left of the picture it looks a little like Daario standing on the ship in front of the golden company. Link - ( New Window )


I don't see it. Male, dark hair, facial hair, but I don't see much of a resemblance. Maybe I'm not looking in the same spot. Or maybe the photo is just too pixellated when I zoom in to 1200% lol.
RE: RE: I just saw this  
Jay on the Island : 3/7/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14319167 bigbluehoya said:
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Look at picture 4. If you zoom in at the bottom left of the picture it looks a little like Daario standing on the ship in front of the golden company. Link - ( New Window )



I don't see it. Male, dark hair, facial hair, but I don't see much of a resemblance. Maybe I'm not looking in the same spot. Or maybe the photo is just too pixellated when I zoom in to 1200% lol.

It's probably nobody but he is wearing different armor than the rest of the soldier and it is dark just like Daario's.
RE: RE: I think it's Jaime killing Cersei.  
chopperhatch : 3/7/2019 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14317987 pjcas18 said:
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Although that's kinda telegraphed, so maybe that doesn't count as a surprise.



Tyrion killing Cersei would be more telegraphed than Jamie IMO.


I think Tyrion certainly has more reason for killing her.
I don't want any of the Lannisters to survive  
Motley Two : 3/7/2019 4:51 pm : link
but if one has to, I kinda hope it's Cersei
I’ll personnally be surprised  
bigbluehoya : 3/7/2019 4:59 pm : link
if Cersei’s death comes at the hands of anyone but Arya. Perhaps using her many-faced skills.
The way Martin writes  
bradshaw44 : 3/7/2019 5:11 pm : link
I don't think there is going to be a happy ending to this show. I feel like it could go in a million different directions. For some reason I picture the final scene showing some character (Cersei or the King of the Walkers in my mind) slowly descending to the seated position on the thrown with every one of us watching with our jaws dropped in total shock.
RE: The way Martin writes  
pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14319562 bradshaw44 said:
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I don't think there is going to be a happy ending to this show. I feel like it could go in a million different directions. For some reason I picture the final scene showing some character (Cersei or the King of the Walkers in my mind) slowly descending to the seated position on the thrown with every one of us watching with our jaws dropped in total shock.


Martin has said it's a bittersweet ending, and he's said the show writers know his plans for the ending, if they stick to it, none of us knows.

If he's right and the 5 people he's said survive, actually do (Tyrion, Dany, Jon, Sansa, and Arya) then Bran could be the "sacrifice" or Jamie.

Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.
RE: RE: The way Martin writes  
Davisian : 3/7/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14319570 pjcas18 said:
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Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.



He's dead.

RE: RE: The way Martin writes  
bradshaw44 : 3/7/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14319570 pjcas18 said:
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I don't think there is going to be a happy ending to this show. I feel like it could go in a million different directions. For some reason I picture the final scene showing some character (Cersei or the King of the Walkers in my mind) slowly descending to the seated position on the thrown with every one of us watching with our jaws dropped in total shock.



Martin has said it's a bittersweet ending, and he's said the show writers know his plans for the ending, if they stick to it, none of us knows.

If he's right and the 5 people he's said survive, actually do (Tyrion, Dany, Jon, Sansa, and Arya) then Bran could be the "sacrifice" or Jamie.

Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.


The other way I could see it, is the character who is sitting down wasn't always evil. And only at the end becomes evil, surprising all of us. Leaving us thinking well, the one I wanted on the thrown is there now. Ha ha
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pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 5:30 pm : link
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Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.




He's dead.


So we are led to believe, but there are reddit theories that he is actually alive and well.
I think the ending  
Mike from SI : 3/7/2019 5:47 pm : link
is Sam writing A Song of Ice and Fire sometime in the future.
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Anakim : 3/7/2019 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14319611 Mike from SI said:
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is Sam writing A Song of Ice and Fire sometime in the future.


Sam is George R.R. Martin. Mind. BLOWN.
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Davisian : 3/7/2019 5:54 pm : link
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Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.




He's dead.




So we are led to believe, but there are reddit theories that he is actually alive and well.



Arya slashed his throat in front of many at winterfell.

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pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 6:05 pm : link
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Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.




He's dead.




So we are led to believe, but there are reddit theories that he is actually alive and well.




Arya slashed his throat in front of many at winterfell.


the theory is that it was a "faceless man", not Littlefinger. Only problem I have with that theory is I thought in order to wear someone's face they had to be dead, but if you can get past that, this theory makes a little sense or at least is somewhat believable for the story.




Littlefinger theory - not dead - spoilers maybe - ( New Window )
I don’t buy Littlefinger being alive  
UConn4523 : 3/7/2019 6:23 pm : link
because they went out of their way to neuter him on the show for the last several seasons to the point where he was basically dead weight. Hard to believe they’d go back on that.
That said I hope it’s true  
UConn4523 : 3/7/2019 6:31 pm : link
I really don’t want any of these main players sitting the throne. I want someone in the background to “win”.
Bovada has odds on who will sit on the iron throne  
pjcas18 : 3/7/2019 7:02 pm : link
If I was going to gamble I'd bet on Davos, if you want a long shot

Daenerys Targaryen (2:1)
Jon Snow (2:1)
Bran Stark (3.5:1)
The Night King (10:1)
Tyrion Lannister (12.5:1)
Cersei Lannister (15:1)
Jaime Lannister (15:1)
Sansa Stark (25:1)
Arya Stark (40:1)
Euron Greyjoy (50:1)
Varys (75:1)
Gendry (75:1)
Samwell Tarly (75:1)
Melisandre (100:1)
Theon Greyjoy (100:1)
Jaqen H’ghar (100:1)
Brienne of Tarth (100:1)
Jorah Mormont (100:1)
Bronn (100:1)
Tormund Giantsbane (100:1)
Davos Seaworth (100:1)
The Hound (100:1)
Gilly (100:1)
Daario Naharis (100:1)
Yara Greyjoy (100:1)
The Mountain (150:1)
RE: That said I hope it’s true  
Mike from SI : 3/7/2019 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14319669 UConn4523 said:
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I really don’t want any of these main players sitting the throne. I want someone in the background to “win”.


I want it to be the Sweetrobin (Robin Arryn). Would actually make some sense and would fit his subversion of the trope.
If Littlefinger is alive  
MetsAreBack : 3/7/2019 10:04 pm : link
That is really lame. They already pulled the 'just kidding - we'll bring him back to life' once with Jon.
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LauderdaleMatty : 3/7/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14319613 Anakim said:
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is Sam writing A Song of Ice and Fire sometime in the future.



Sam is George R.R. Martin. Mind. BLOWN.


If Sam is GRRM then the he won’t write shit. Or will in another 26-30 years. I’ll be dead or too old to give a shit
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chopperhatch : 3/7/2019 10:51 pm : link
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Can't think of many other characters whose death would make things bittersweet, and I do think Littlefinger has a role down the stretch.




He's dead.


Welcome back big guy!
A lot of the Game of Thrones diehards  
bceagle05 : 3/7/2019 11:17 pm : link
on Reddit and YouTube are pushing the Winterfell crypts theory - the name itself signifying the place where the White Walkers (Winter) were previously defeated by the Starks. Perhaps they have some unfinished business with them - that would be freaking amazing. It also makes the Kings Landing drama seem completely insignificant, but oh well.
RE: Bovada has odds on who will sit on the iron throne  
MetsAreBack : 3/8/2019 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14319697 pjcas18 said:
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If I was going to gamble I'd bet on Davos, if you want a long shot

Daenerys Targaryen (2:1)
Jon Snow (2:1)
Bran Stark (3.5:1)
The Night King (10:1)
Tyrion Lannister (12.5:1)
Cersei Lannister (15:1)
Jaime Lannister (15:1)
Sansa Stark (25:1)
Arya Stark (40:1)
Euron Greyjoy (50:1)
Varys (75:1)
Gendry (75:1)
Samwell Tarly (75:1)
Melisandre (100:1)
Theon Greyjoy (100:1)
Jaqen H’ghar (100:1)
Brienne of Tarth (100:1)
Jorah Mormont (100:1)
Bronn (100:1)
Tormund Giantsbane (100:1)
Davos Seaworth (100:1)
The Hound (100:1)
Gilly (100:1)
Daario Naharis (100:1)
Yara Greyjoy (100:1)
The Mountain (150:1)


Hmmn... I just read odds from a Vegas online website a bit differently. They have Bran Stark the overwhelming favorite (-130), with Jon Snow at 2:1 and Daenerys at 3:1.

I do wonder if Daenerys and Jon have a son this season and the 'bittersweet moment' is the son becomes King and inherits a peaceful realm, but both his parents have died on the quest. Or at least Daenerys dies during child birth (which I guess would make Jon the king).

My money is on Jon with Daenerys dying at the end.

I just can't see Bran ending up on the throne - that would be disappointing.
RE: RE: Bovada has odds on who will sit on the iron throne  
bradshaw44 : 3/8/2019 2:35 pm : link
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Hmmn... I just read odds from a Vegas online website a bit differently. They have Bran Stark the overwhelming favorite (-130), with Jon Snow at 2:1 and Daenerys at 3:1.

I do wonder if Daenerys and Jon have a son this season and the 'bittersweet moment' is the son becomes King and inherits a peaceful realm, but both his parents have died on the quest. Or at least Daenerys dies during child birth (which I guess would make Jon the king).

My money is on Jon with Daenerys dying at the end.

I just can't see Bran ending up on the throne - that would be disappointing.


I feel like it can't be Bran simply because I don't think he would take the thrown. He seems to be too in to the whole one eye'd raven thing. He almost seems like he wants no part of being amongst people.
There's theorizing  
Kyle in NY : 3/8/2019 2:40 pm : link
regarding Bran and the Night King that may be leading to those odds. I don't think it's spoilers because it's just speculation but I'll link the theory instead of typing it. Some of these theories have been spot on in the past
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RE: There's theorizing  
pjcas18 : 3/8/2019 2:51 pm : link
In comment 14321096 Kyle in NY said:
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regarding Bran and the Night King that may be leading to those odds. I don't think it's spoilers because it's just speculation but I'll link the theory instead of typing it. Some of these theories have been spot on in the past Link - ( New Window )


I've read this and for the reasons they point out I don't think it's realistic. If they do decide to go with a plot like this I think there will be a lot of confusion.

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