Was the Night King around for the famous Hodor moment in the cave? What if he and Bran had come face to face during that chase?
I've also considered the possibility that Bran wargs into the Night King while the Night King is battling Jon (that showdown seems inevitable), and lets Jon kill him - that's the "bittersweet" moment. Doesn't really make sense though - couldn't Bran warg into him at any time and kill himself to end this threat?
I raised questions about Bran earlier in this thread - I feel like he's going to be involved in something mind-blowing, but I can't decide what.
regarding Bran and the Night King that may be leading to those odds. I don't think it's spoilers because it's just speculation but I'll link the theory instead of typing it. Some of these theories have been spot on in the past Link - ( New Window )
I've read this and for the reasons they point out I don't think it's realistic. If they do decide to go with a plot like this I think there will be a lot of confusion.
I didn't realize that NK is a show-only entity. One would think that likely kills the B=NK idea, but who knows.
I'll personally be really furious if B=NK proves to be true, for the reason that the prior link points out -- It would mean that Bran could effectively be conscious/active in 2 times/persons at the same time, which has kind of been one of the inferred 'rules' of this fantasy.
I'm totally willing to suspend disbelief and nerd out on stuff like this. I really enjoy it. But when things start to play outside of their own boundaries they've kinda set for themselves, I anger pretty quickly. It would be a major letdown in that sense.
He was unaware of his lineage when he "bent the knee" to Dany, but he still bent the knee and will honor that. Also, I doubt he wants the throne, nor does Bran. The northerners don't care much for Kings Landing. Makes it very interesting - Dany seems the most predictable, but Game of Thrones is never predictable.
We will see Lady Stoneheart (Catelyn Stark) sometime during this last season
That would be great, it's been a glaring omission from the show. My only theory is they didn't want to take away from the Jon Snow death/resurrection later on, but it's still a badass character.
We will see Lady Stoneheart (Catelyn Stark) sometime during this last season
I've read this too, hard to see how they introduce her at this point, especially with just 6 episodes left, but of course this is all new plot, so they could come up with something.
What's striking to me is if you compare these seasons of GOT to movies, it's sort of staggering.
I thought the LOTR trilogy movies were long, and those books were massive too.
But if you add up the time of 8 seasons of GOT, with 6 - 10 episodes each and you calculate it as a hour per episode you have approximately 73 hours of GOT.
That's over 20 3 hour movies.
Do you think if they tried to make movies instead of shows they could/would have compressed it into less or maybe one movie per book?
What's striking to me is if you compare these seasons of GOT to movies, it's sort of staggering.
I thought the LOTR trilogy movies were long, and those books were massive too.
But if you add up the time of 8 seasons of GOT, with 6 - 10 episodes each and you calculate it as a hour per episode you have approximately 73 hours of GOT.
That's over 20 3 hour movies.
Do you think if they tried to make movies instead of shows they could/would have compressed it into less or maybe one movie per book?
Can you even compare it this way?
I think there was some stuff that dragged for us as viewers, but I think a lot of that was anticipation for things to come making that dragging seem worse. Like wanting Dany to get out of the Red Sea, get some boats and cross the damn ocean already.
With so many characters & their story lines(and with so much more from the books not used or altered), the show still had moments where they struggled conveying time.
I think it would be almost impossible to do these in a traditional film format and we're seeing the strength of the series format.
They could have spent a whole episode on Gendry running back to the wall. Dude was booking, not only did he make it back to the wall in like 5 minutes, he also seemed to get a message to Danny in no time. Those message ravens were flying at mach speed.
It would end up being way too similar to LotR. The sense of time/pacing (pre-S6/S7 at least) and the building up story/character arcs are part of what makes the show so great.
They could have spent a whole episode on Gendry running back to the wall. Dude was booking, not only did he make it back to the wall in like 5 minutes, he also seemed to get a message to Danny in no time. Those message ravens were flying at mach speed.
That's the struggling I was referring to. There are estimates out there for taking a horse & wagon from Winterfell to King's Landing would take over 2 months. How would you show that, and who would want to watch it?
So the time still gets fucky on the show and that's with 70+ hours of run time.
I've also considered the possibility that Bran wargs into the Night King while the Night King is battling Jon (that showdown seems inevitable), and lets Jon kill him - that's the "bittersweet" moment. Doesn't really make sense though - couldn't Bran warg into him at any time and kill himself to end this threat?
I raised questions about Bran earlier in this thread - I feel like he's going to be involved in something mind-blowing, but I can't decide what.
He's not of the surviving 5 according to Martin, if you buy that as truthful.
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regarding Bran and the Night King that may be leading to those odds. I don't think it's spoilers because it's just speculation but I'll link the theory instead of typing it. Some of these theories have been spot on in the past Link - ( New Window )
I've read this and for the reasons they point out I don't think it's realistic. If they do decide to go with a plot like this I think there will be a lot of confusion.
I didn't realize that NK is a show-only entity. One would think that likely kills the B=NK idea, but who knows.
I'll personally be really furious if B=NK proves to be true, for the reason that the prior link points out -- It would mean that Bran could effectively be conscious/active in 2 times/persons at the same time, which has kind of been one of the inferred 'rules' of this fantasy.
I'm totally willing to suspend disbelief and nerd out on stuff like this. I really enjoy it. But when things start to play outside of their own boundaries they've kinda set for themselves, I anger pretty quickly. It would be a major letdown in that sense.
That would be great, it's been a glaring omission from the show. My only theory is they didn't want to take away from the Jon Snow death/resurrection later on, but it's still a badass character.
I've read this too, hard to see how they introduce her at this point, especially with just 6 episodes left, but of course this is all new plot, so they could come up with something.
Most of us were under the impression that the wait was so long for only 6 final episodes because those 6 episodes were going to be massive.
Looks like that's not going to be the case:
link - ( New Window )
Most of us were under the impression that the wait was so long for only 6 final episodes because those 6 episodes were going to be massive.
Looks like that's not going to be the case: link - ( New Window )
It’s been known for awhile the first two will be normal length while the remainder will be 80-90 minutes long
Episode 1) :54
Episode 2) :58
Episode 3) 1:22
Episode 4) 1:18
Episode 5) 1:20
Episode 6) 1:20
Episode 1) :54
Episode 2) :58
Episode 3) 1:22
Episode 4) 1:18
Episode 5) 1:20
Episode 6) 1:20
What's striking to me is if you compare these seasons of GOT to movies, it's sort of staggering.
I thought the LOTR trilogy movies were long, and those books were massive too.
But if you add up the time of 8 seasons of GOT, with 6 - 10 episodes each and you calculate it as a hour per episode you have approximately 73 hours of GOT.
That's over 20 3 hour movies.
Do you think if they tried to make movies instead of shows they could/would have compressed it into less or maybe one movie per book?
Can you even compare it this way?
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Episode 1) :54
Episode 2) :58
Episode 3) 1:22
Episode 4) 1:18
Episode 5) 1:20
Episode 6) 1:20
What's striking to me is if you compare these seasons of GOT to movies, it's sort of staggering.
I thought the LOTR trilogy movies were long, and those books were massive too.
But if you add up the time of 8 seasons of GOT, with 6 - 10 episodes each and you calculate it as a hour per episode you have approximately 73 hours of GOT.
That's over 20 3 hour movies.
Do you think if they tried to make movies instead of shows they could/would have compressed it into less or maybe one movie per book?
Can you even compare it this way?
I think there was some stuff that dragged for us as viewers, but I think a lot of that was anticipation for things to come making that dragging seem worse. Like wanting Dany to get out of the Red Sea, get some boats and cross the damn ocean already.
With so many characters & their story lines(and with so much more from the books not used or altered), the show still had moments where they struggled conveying time.
I think it would be almost impossible to do these in a traditional film format and we're seeing the strength of the series format.
Not exactly apples to apples, but sort of similar.
That's the struggling I was referring to. There are estimates out there for taking a horse & wagon from Winterfell to King's Landing would take over 2 months. How would you show that, and who would want to watch it?
So the time still gets fucky on the show and that's with 70+ hours of run time.