the only thing that makes some of the rumors easier to stomach is if it helps us get Q Williams, Bosa or even Kyler Murray (although losing OBJ and getting Murray would also be a tough pill to swallow)
Even if it's two first rounders i'd wager next year is a lower pick than 17 with OBJ on that team.
I’ve never posted asshat info before, but I have a close connection to a giants player. Word is there is def legs to this rumor, but no one knows who or what’s involved. But, OBJ and this player believe he’s going to be traded to the Browns. Again, not earth shattering stuff to what’s being put out there but do know it’s not just random and made up, it has legs. Obviously if I get anything more concrete I’ll share, but I won’t start a thread on it, prob post discretely.
Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.
is Ogbah, a 1st this year, and a conditional 2nd in 2019. The condition is that it becomes a 1st if the Browns make the playoffs or Beckham is an all-pro.
Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.
Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
DG is going to get their 2020 #1 pick to give us 2 first rounders
To move up next year and grab Tua, Herbert or Fromm. Along with another player this year like Zeitler. Just a thought
Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
Or we could have lost him to FA for nothing instead of having him as a very tradeable asset
Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
It would just be really stupid.
I'm not so attached to Beckham that I am unwilling to trade him regardless of return - but if we're going to sign him just to turn around and deal him for a suboptimal return, saddle ourselves with more dead cap, and create an additional gaping roster hole, then I'd have to join the chorus of "what the fuck" 's.
If Gettleman trades him for a haul, I'm good with that. But don't sign the guy just to give him away. That's compounding one purported mistake with a worse one.
RE: RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah Â
Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
That would be awful.
Agreed. That’s a terrible return. Zeitler is not an unuseful player but he’s clearly a guy who is on Olivier Vernon territory with them that they’re looking to shave off roster and the cap.
I’d be intrigued with a Jabril Peppers especially in a Bettcher style defense. But you have to get a 1 and a 2 in draft picks. I don’t think you’re going to get two Number 1s.
But I’d do a 1 and 2 and a useful young talented player that fills our roster.
He was still under contract for the 2018 season...it's not like the Giants were under a time constraint. If the front office were at a "one more strike and we're trading you" stance with Beckham then paying him was really, really stupid. It devalued him in the trade market and it ensured that the Giants would take on dead money to trade him.
They should have just traded him last offseason if it were going to come to this.
To be fair, no trade has been announced. But there's been a boatload of smoke around this for months, including the possible new asshat info above in this thread.
You might as well release Eli and totally tank, go 0-16, and get the #1 pick in Next years draft.
It would create a big quandary at WR. My guess is Jints Central has to dip into FA and go for Golden Tate or Randall Cobb. Or maybe Demaryius Thomas is he's recovered from the tough injury he sustained late last year...
Even if it's two first rounders i'd wager next year is a lower pick than 17 with OBJ on that team.
Basically the rumor that's out there, with many different variations is a Kevin Zeitler and draft picks plus another player for Odell Beckam.
I cannot stress enough that that is a rumor, and not currently coming from any known credible source
It was literally made up by a random person on Twitter whose bragging how many times his tweet has been viewed.
The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...
I should say that this was just someone responding... Not a reporter
The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...
Landry is an overpaid slot receiver.
Duke Johnson can do it all.
Please.
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from the Browns and Landry for OBJ.
The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...
Landry is an overpaid slot receiver.
So I hear... ;)
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
I should say that this was just someone responding... Not a reporter
Well there you go.
If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.
He would be back with his buddy.
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i agree...
im not giving him up for nothing. if cooper gets a first rounder, obj gets value of 3. he is LIGHT years a better player.
Zietler is a useful OL although he hasn’t been exceptional lately. Ogbah is a rotational piece. Upgrade over Kareem Martin but nothing spectacular.
I think there’s some legitimate smoke to the OBJ rumors. I think Dave and Pat are still working to redo the locker room and the roster.
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.
Agreed.
Austin Corbett would be a great get. He would solidify the RG spot. Corbett, 2019 1st, and 2020 2nd is a solid offer IMO.
That would be awful.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
Yes sir. Cut or trade Vernon, Ogletree, and Janoris Jenkins as well. If they do want Fromm badly next year that is the way to do it.
To move up next year and grab Tua, Herbert or Fromm. Along with another player this year like Zeitler. Just a thought
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Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
Or we could have lost him to FA for nothing instead of having him as a very tradeable asset
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Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.
Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
It would just be really stupid.
I'm not so attached to Beckham that I am unwilling to trade him regardless of return - but if we're going to sign him just to turn around and deal him for a suboptimal return, saddle ourselves with more dead cap, and create an additional gaping roster hole, then I'd have to join the chorus of "what the fuck" 's.
If Gettleman trades him for a haul, I'm good with that. But don't sign the guy just to give him away. That's compounding one purported mistake with a worse one.
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
That would be awful.
Agreed. That’s a terrible return. Zeitler is not an unuseful player but he’s clearly a guy who is on Olivier Vernon territory with them that they’re looking to shave off roster and the cap.
I’d be intrigued with a Jabril Peppers especially in a Bettcher style defense. But you have to get a 1 and a 2 in draft picks. I don’t think you’re going to get two Number 1s.
But I’d do a 1 and 2 and a useful young talented player that fills our roster.
They should have just traded him last offseason if it were going to come to this.
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you would want Ogbah as a piece. Zeitler and Peppers I'm fine with.
Austin Corbett would be a great get. He would solidify the RG spot. Corbett, 2019 1st, and 2020 2nd is a solid offer IMO.
Did Corbett even start last year?
To be fair, no trade has been announced. But there's been a boatload of smoke around this for months, including the possible new asshat info above in this thread.
It would create a big quandary at WR. My guess is Jints Central has to dip into FA and go for Golden Tate or Randall Cobb. Or maybe Demaryius Thomas is he's recovered from the tough injury he sustained late last year...