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Matt Miller "huge" Browns rumors

DanMetroMan : 3/6/2019 4:58 pm

Matt Miller
@nfldraftscout
The rumors coming out of Cleveland this afternoon are wild. And huge.

Something's cooking.
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The Obj talk is making me nauseous  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/6/2019 5:02 pm : link
Going to be very tough to stomach losing an electric young playmaker in his prime. Especially one that wants to win as badly as Beckham.
Please stop posting  
Big Rick in FL : 3/6/2019 5:05 pm : link
Rumors by Matt Miller. He's constantly wrong.
Especially seeing at the Browns have the 17th pick  
NoGainDayne : 3/6/2019 5:05 pm : link
the only thing that makes some of the rumors easier to stomach is if it helps us get Q Williams, Bosa or even Kyler Murray (although losing OBJ and getting Murray would also be a tough pill to swallow)

Even if it's two first rounders i'd wager next year is a lower pick than 17 with OBJ on that team.
People on Twitter  
Big Rick in FL : 3/6/2019 5:06 pm : link
Have been saying the Browns are up to something big for at least 24 hours. Yet we haven't heard an actual name or any real info.
Here's someone with actual inside info  
Big Rick in FL : 3/6/2019 5:09 pm : link
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Tweet from @AllbrightNFL: Since others wont, I will.

Basically the rumor that's out there, with many different variations is a Kevin Zeitler and draft picks plus another player for Odell Beckam.

I cannot stress enough that that is a rumor, and not currently coming from any known credible source
Antonio Brown trade  
Rick in Dallas : 3/6/2019 5:09 pm : link
Would make sense
I would only  
cokeduplt : 3/6/2019 5:10 pm : link
Trade OBJ to Cleveland for baker which isn’t happening. Either that or a Herschel Walker type trade otherwise fuck that
...  
battttles : 3/6/2019 5:11 pm : link
It's Odell for Zeitler and picks. Will it happen?
RE: ...  
Big Rick in FL : 3/6/2019 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14318047 battttles said:
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It's Odell for Zeitler and picks. Will it happen?


It was literally made up by a random person on Twitter whose bragging how many times his tweet has been viewed.
What do the Browns have to offer?  
EJJ : 3/6/2019 5:12 pm : link
Their 1st is at 17 nothing special. IMHO it would have to blow DG away like 1st, 2nd this year and 1st next year with a player as well.
I'd take a high pick...  
bw in dc : 3/6/2019 5:16 pm : link
from the Browns and Landry for OBJ.

The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...
Like they wanted last year,  
Simms11 : 3/6/2019 5:17 pm : link
it would have to be for two 1s and then some.
17th pick and Duke Johnson  
Chip : 3/6/2019 5:17 pm : link
for Beckham is what someone posted. Hopefully not true
Sort of asshat  
Giantfootball025 : 3/6/2019 5:17 pm : link
I’ve never posted asshat info before, but I have a close connection to a giants player. Word is there is def legs to this rumor, but no one knows who or what’s involved. But, OBJ and this player believe he’s going to be traded to the Browns. Again, not earth shattering stuff to what’s being put out there but do know it’s not just random and made up, it has legs. Obviously if I get anything more concrete I’ll share, but I won’t start a thread on it, prob post discretely.
Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
bigblue12 : 3/6/2019 5:19 pm : link
Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back
RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
bigblue12 : 3/6/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back


I should say that this was just someone responding... Not a reporter
RE: I'd take a high pick...  
Toth029 : 3/6/2019 5:21 pm : link
In comment 14318054 bw in dc said:
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from the Browns and Landry for OBJ.

The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...

Landry is an overpaid slot receiver.
RE: 17th pick and Duke Johnson  
madgiantscow009 : 3/6/2019 5:22 pm : link
In comment 14318057 Chip said:
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for Beckham is what someone posted. Hopefully not true


Duke Johnson can do it all.
Duke  
Toth029 : 3/6/2019 5:24 pm : link
Is good but he's a 3rd down back.

Please.
RE: RE: I'd take a high pick...  
bw in dc : 3/6/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14318064 Toth029 said:
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In comment 14318054 bw in dc said:


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from the Browns and Landry for OBJ.

The Landry part just for the KWALL entertainment...


Landry is an overpaid slot receiver.


So I hear... ;)
RE: RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
Pan-handler : 3/6/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14318062 bigblue12 said:
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In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:


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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back



I should say that this was just someone responding... Not a reporter


Well there you go.
RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
bradshaw44 : 3/6/2019 5:29 pm : link
In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back


If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.
Beckham would be exstatic  
ZogZerg : 3/6/2019 5:32 pm : link
If this happened.
He would be back with his buddy.
...  
BleedBlue : 3/6/2019 5:34 pm : link
im gonna be pissed if its anything short of

obj

for
#17
zeitler
2020 first
I believe it when I see it  
ryanmkeane : 3/6/2019 5:38 pm : link
but if the trade doesn't include a 1st round pick, Gettleman should be fired on the spot
The only offer I would accept from the Browns  
Jay on the Island : 3/6/2019 5:38 pm : link
is Ogbah, a 1st this year, and a conditional 2nd in 2019. The condition is that it becomes a 1st if the Browns make the playoffs or Beckham is an all-pro.
I want Beckham to be traded  
djm : 3/6/2019 5:41 pm : link
Just to see how some here will spin things if he wins big elsewhere.
Ogbah  
ryanmkeane : 3/6/2019 5:45 pm : link
has done next to nothing in 3 years. Why in the hell would we want him in a trade with Beckham?
RE: Ogbah  
bceagle05 : 3/6/2019 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14318120 ryanmkeane said:
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has done next to nothing in 3 years. Why in the hell would we want him in a trade with Beckham?

In Dave We Trust? Ah, never mind.
Zeitler, Peppers  
ryanmkeane : 3/6/2019 5:48 pm : link
17th, 2019 2nd, and 2020 1st...that might make me consider it
RE: Zeitler, Peppers  
BleedBlue : 3/6/2019 5:53 pm : link
In comment 14318123 ryanmkeane said:
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17th, 2019 2nd, and 2020 1st...that might make me consider it



i agree...

im not giving him up for nothing. if cooper gets a first rounder, obj gets value of 3. he is LIGHT years a better player.

The 1st rounder is mandatory  
Sammo85 : 3/6/2019 5:54 pm : link
Without that just hang up the phone. I’d want at least the one this year and a high 2020 conditional (either a 2nd or 1st).

Zietler is a useful OL although he hasn’t been exceptional lately. Ogbah is a rotational piece. Upgrade over Kareem Martin but nothing spectacular.

I think there’s some legitimate smoke to the OBJ rumors. I think Dave and Pat are still working to redo the locker room and the roster.
I just don't understand why  
ryanmkeane : 3/6/2019 5:59 pm : link
you would want Ogbah as a piece. Zeitler and Peppers I'm fine with.
RE: RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
chopperhatch : 3/6/2019 6:02 pm : link
In comment 14318086 bradshaw44 said:
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In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:


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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back



If this turned out to be true I would officially be done with DG. I'm giving him time at this point, but if you don't get a 1 and other assets for Odell then you suck. Unless Baker was in the trade. Which isn't happening.


Agreed.
RE: I just don't understand why  
Jay on the Island : 3/6/2019 6:03 pm : link
In comment 14318135 ryanmkeane said:
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you would want Ogbah as a piece. Zeitler and Peppers I'm fine with.

Austin Corbett would be a great get. He would solidify the RG spot. Corbett, 2019 1st, and 2020 2nd is a solid offer IMO.
There's no way he would  
ryanmkeane : 3/6/2019 6:03 pm : link
trade Beckham and not include a 1st. Fans would revolt.
If you trade OBJ  
GiantsRage2007 : 3/6/2019 6:03 pm : link
You might as well release Eli and totally tank, go 0-16, and get the #1 pick in Next years draft.
RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
AcidTest : 3/6/2019 6:06 pm : link
In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:
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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back


That would be awful.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/6/2019 6:06 pm : link
Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.
I would want their whole fin draft  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/6/2019 6:08 pm : link
Ditka style.. or F-off
RE: .  
Go Terps : 3/6/2019 6:12 pm : link
In comment 14318144 arcarsenal said:
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Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.


I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.

Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.
RE: If you trade OBJ  
Jay on the Island : 3/6/2019 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14318142 GiantsRage2007 said:
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You might as well release Eli and totally tank, go 0-16, and get the #1 pick in Next years draft.

Yes sir. Cut or trade Vernon, Ogletree, and Janoris Jenkins as well. If they do want Fromm badly next year that is the way to do it.
Maybe  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/6/2019 6:14 pm : link
DG is going to get their 2020 #1 pick to give us 2 first rounders
To move up next year and grab Tua, Herbert or Fromm. Along with another player this year like Zeitler. Just a thought
RE: RE: .  
chopperhatch : 3/6/2019 6:17 pm : link
In comment 14318150 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14318144 arcarsenal said:


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Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.



I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.

Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.


Or we could have lost him to FA for nothing instead of having him as a very tradeable asset
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 3/6/2019 6:18 pm : link
In comment 14318150 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14318144 arcarsenal said:


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Gettleman will definitely lose me quickly if he sends Beckham packing for a crappy return.



I think the blame there would lie with Mara for signing off on the contract last offseason. The high point to trade Beckham (in terms of getting value back) was after 2016 - the last good healthy year he had.

Signing him to the contract was idiotic if the feeling in the building was that Beckham was on a short leash.


It would just be really stupid.

I'm not so attached to Beckham that I am unwilling to trade him regardless of return - but if we're going to sign him just to turn around and deal him for a suboptimal return, saddle ourselves with more dead cap, and create an additional gaping roster hole, then I'd have to join the chorus of "what the fuck" 's.

If Gettleman trades him for a haul, I'm good with that. But don't sign the guy just to give him away. That's compounding one purported mistake with a worse one.
RE: RE: Speculation that the other player is Ogbah  
Sammo85 : 3/6/2019 6:19 pm : link
In comment 14318143 AcidTest said:
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In comment 14318059 bigblue12 said:


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Someone said it was OBJ for Zeitler, Ogbah, and a 2 &4. I'm all trading him, but I need a 1 back



That would be awful.


Agreed. That’s a terrible return. Zeitler is not an unuseful player but he’s clearly a guy who is on Olivier Vernon territory with them that they’re looking to shave off roster and the cap.

I’d be intrigued with a Jabril Peppers especially in a Bettcher style defense. But you have to get a 1 and a 2 in draft picks. I don’t think you’re going to get two Number 1s.

But I’d do a 1 and 2 and a useful young talented player that fills our roster.
chopper  
Go Terps : 3/6/2019 6:21 pm : link
He was still under contract for the 2018 season...it's not like the Giants were under a time constraint. If the front office were at a "one more strike and we're trading you" stance with Beckham then paying him was really, really stupid. It devalued him in the trade market and it ensured that the Giants would take on dead money to trade him.

They should have just traded him last offseason if it were going to come to this.
RE: RE: I just don't understand why  
bw in dc : 3/6/2019 6:22 pm : link
In comment 14318140 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14318135 ryanmkeane said:


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you would want Ogbah as a piece. Zeitler and Peppers I'm fine with.


Austin Corbett would be a great get. He would solidify the RG spot. Corbett, 2019 1st, and 2020 2nd is a solid offer IMO.


Did Corbett even start last year?
When some of us say the Giants don't have a plan  
Go Terps : 3/6/2019 6:24 pm : link
This is the kind of shit we're talking about.

To be fair, no trade has been announced. But there's been a boatload of smoke around this for months, including the possible new asshat info above in this thread.
RE: If you trade OBJ  
bw in dc : 3/6/2019 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14318142 GiantsRage2007 said:
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You might as well release Eli and totally tank, go 0-16, and get the #1 pick in Next years draft.


It would create a big quandary at WR. My guess is Jints Central has to dip into FA and go for Golden Tate or Randall Cobb. Or maybe Demaryius Thomas is he's recovered from the tough injury he sustained late last year...
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