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90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:34 am
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IanRapoport  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:34 am : link
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One sleeper team for RB Le’Veon Bell: The #Raiders. He’ll have a ton of suitors, but Oakland will be ready and is willing to spend for star power even after acquiring Antonio Brown.
MikeGarafolo re: Adam Humphries and Kwon Alexander  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:36 am : link
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Both about to get paid too. Humphries will flirt with $10m per year. And it sounds like Alexander, despite his ACL tear last year, is going to clear that threshhold by a significant margin.
ProFootballTalk  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:37 am : link
@ProFootballTalk
Jets seen as favorites to land Le'Veon Bell.
If Humphries gets anything close to 10 million  
dep026 : 3/11/2019 7:44 am : link
Then TB is foolish. He’s a nice slot WR. However with Evans, Godwin, and Howard - he’s sometimes your 4th option. Ridiculous to pay that amount to someone if that value.

And if he gets 10, imagine what SS will want next year? Again, I am not sure why many on BBI would think he would get a reasonable contract.
Bucs are shopping DeSean Jackson  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:44 am : link
And he wants to land back in Philly.
RE: Bucs are shopping DeSean Jackson  
Jints in Carolina : 3/11/2019 7:46 am : link
In comment 14323494 90.Cal said:
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And he wants to land back in Philly.


great...he can rape us some more.
RE: If Humphries gets anything close to 10 million  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2019 7:50 am : link
In comment 14323493 dep026 said:
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Then TB is foolish. He’s a nice slot WR. However with Evans, Godwin, and Howard - he’s sometimes your 4th option. Ridiculous to pay that amount to someone if that value.

And if he gets 10, imagine what SS will want next year? Again, I am not sure why many on BBI would think he would get a reasonable contract.


The Bucs aren't going to give it to him. I'd assume Shepard is going to get right around what Humphries does.
Here's the DJax tweet..  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:52 am : link
@NFL_DovKleiman
#Buccaneers are shopping WR DeSean Jackson, who prefers to go to the #Eagles, per @JennaLaineESPN and @Tim_McManus.
Tannehill rumor  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 7:54 am : link
@ProFootballTalk
Ryan Tannehill could end up staying in Florida, but not in Miami..
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Amendola to the Lions  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2019 7:59 am : link
Taking his physical now.
Raanan  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2019 8:04 am : link
Says the Lions will be very active in free agency. Looking at top of the market pass rushers.
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jeff57 : 3/11/2019 8:05 am : link
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RE: Amendola to the Lions  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 8:07 am : link
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Taking his physical now.



Ian Rapoport
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The #Lions plan to sign former #Patriots and #Dolphins WR Danny Amendola to a 1-year deal that includes $4.5M guaranteed base, source said. With incentives, that can bring him to $5.75M. Great addition to the locker room.
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jeff57 : 3/11/2019 8:08 am : link
The free agent negotiating period begins today. Giants concentration will be on defense, particularly on pass rushers. Expected to be in the market Za’Darius Smith and Preston Smith.


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Giants  
Philu916 : 3/11/2019 8:13 am : link
Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?
RE: Giants  
Big Rick in FL : 3/11/2019 8:14 am : link
In comment 14323517 Philu916 said:
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Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?


No they won't be cheap. According to our very own JonC the Giants will be aggressive in free agent Safeties.
RE: RE: Giants  
jeff57 : 3/11/2019 8:20 am : link
In comment 14323519 Big Rick in FL said:
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Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?



No they won't be cheap. According to our very own JonC the Giants will be aggressive in free agent Safeties.


I'd rather spend big money on DBs and save the pass rusher for pick 6.
Eagles are in position to be aggressive; don’t rule out Le’Veon Bell  
Steve in ATL : 3/11/2019 8:23 am : link
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RE: Eagles are in position to be aggressive; don’t rule out Le’Veon Bell  
The_Boss : 3/11/2019 8:46 am : link
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How? Don’t they have less than the NYG to work with, cap wise? They’re entire team essentially consists of high priced vets and a Wentz deal is on the horizon.
why would anyone give Humphries  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:01 am : link
anything close to $10M per season? Spotrac's market value tool is nice, but (IMO) it's comparing the wrong receiving stats. Targets and Receptions aren't particularly useful measures of WRs ability by themselves and those are 2 of the stats most in his favor relative to his comps (Baldwin, Lockett, Stills, Lee). But noticeably absent from Spotrac's stats is Yards/Reception (or yards/tgt) which is a much better representation of a WRs value. In that metric Humphries averages a full 2 yards less (16%) than the worst of his comps. In that regard, he's much closer to Cole Beasley as a player who Spotrac didn't even think merited a "Market Analysis".

And it's definitely not good if you're a SS fan as he's a significantly better player than Humphries. Shepard's y/r are still a tick below those other 4, but he's trending upwards here (10.5 as a rookie, 12.4 and then 13.2 last season) and he's much better at finding the endzone than Humphries: 14 TDs vs 9 TDs despite one less season. Not to mention his outstanding run blocking.
RE: RE: Eagles are in position to be aggressive; don’t rule out Le’Veon Bell  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14323555 The_Boss said:
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How? Don’t they have less than the NYG to work with, cap wise? They’re entire team essentially consists of high priced vets and a Wentz deal is on the horizon.


Spotrac has them with $20M in space.
RE: why would anyone give Humphries  
jvm52106 : 3/11/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14323583 giants#1 said:
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anything close to $10M per season? Spotrac's market value tool is nice, but (IMO) it's comparing the wrong receiving stats. Targets and Receptions aren't particularly useful measures of WRs ability by themselves and those are 2 of the stats most in his favor relative to his comps (Baldwin, Lockett, Stills, Lee). But noticeably absent from Spotrac's stats is Yards/Reception (or yards/tgt) which is a much better representation of a WRs value. In that metric Humphries averages a full 2 yards less (16%) than the worst of his comps. In that regard, he's much closer to Cole Beasley as a player who Spotrac didn't even think merited a "Market Analysis".

And it's definitely not good if you're a SS fan as he's a significantly better player than Humphries. Shepard's y/r are still a tick below those other 4, but he's trending upwards here (10.5 as a rookie, 12.4 and then 13.2 last season) and he's much better at finding the endzone than Humphries: 14 TDs vs 9 TDs despite one less season. Not to mention his outstanding run blocking.


Becuase it is a copycat league. Someone will look to get a Patriots like WR corps.
Hmm..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/11/2019 9:04 am : link
Sounds a lot like the Stewart signing last year:

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The #Lions plan to sign former #Patriots and #Dolphins WR Danny Amendola to a 1-year deal that includes $4.5M guaranteed base, source said. With incentives, that can bring him to $5.75M. Great addition to the locker room.


A 33 year old WR who is oft-injured, has exactly one reception over 40 yards in the past 5 seasons and has had 2 or less TD's in 6 of his 10 years in the league.
^Eagles cap  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:06 am : link
Looks like Lane Johnson restructured to provide ~$8M in space and declining Jernigan's option freed another $7M.

That said, they don't have any numbers for Graham's deal yet and Kelce's numbers don't look updated (though his cap # could go down for 2019.
RE: RE: why would anyone give Humphries  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14323591 jvm52106 said:
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anything close to $10M per season? Spotrac's market value tool is nice, but (IMO) it's comparing the wrong receiving stats. Targets and Receptions aren't particularly useful measures of WRs ability by themselves and those are 2 of the stats most in his favor relative to his comps (Baldwin, Lockett, Stills, Lee). But noticeably absent from Spotrac's stats is Yards/Reception (or yards/tgt) which is a much better representation of a WRs value. In that metric Humphries averages a full 2 yards less (16%) than the worst of his comps. In that regard, he's much closer to Cole Beasley as a player who Spotrac didn't even think merited a "Market Analysis".

And it's definitely not good if you're a SS fan as he's a significantly better player than Humphries. Shepard's y/r are still a tick below those other 4, but he's trending upwards here (10.5 as a rookie, 12.4 and then 13.2 last season) and he's much better at finding the endzone than Humphries: 14 TDs vs 9 TDs despite one less season. Not to mention his outstanding run blocking.



Becuase it is a copycat league. Someone will look to get a Patriots like WR corps.


They're morons then, unless they're cloning Brady too. And even Edelman's value is largely because he's a $5-6M per year player. The Pats would never give him $10M per.
RE: ^Eagles cap  
The_Boss : 3/11/2019 9:08 am : link
In comment 14323597 giants#1 said:
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Looks like Lane Johnson restructured to provide ~$8M in space and declining Jernigan's option freed another $7M.

That said, they don't have any numbers for Graham's deal yet and Kelce's numbers don't look updated (though his cap # could go down for 2019.


Thanks. I wasn’t aware they did some maneuvering.
RE: Hmm..  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:09 am : link
In comment 14323593 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Sounds a lot like the Stewart signing last year:



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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Lions plan to sign former #Patriots and #Dolphins WR Danny Amendola to a 1-year deal that includes $4.5M guaranteed base, source said. With incentives, that can bring him to $5.75M. Great addition to the locker room.



A 33 year old WR who is oft-injured, has exactly one reception over 40 yards in the past 5 seasons and has had 2 or less TD's in 6 of his 10 years in the league.


Makes it equally as dumb.
Rumor is Tyrod Taylor  
jvm52106 : 3/11/2019 9:13 am : link
could be next QB in Miami.. Wow.
Patricia Traina  
90.Cal : 3/11/2019 9:14 am : link
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I’m curious to see if they will lower Kevin Zeitler’s bass salary down to the guaranteed money he’s due, which is around $3.5M. And I remain curious to see if they do anything with Eli Manning’s number.
That..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/11/2019 9:16 am : link
just sounds fishy:

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I’m curious to see if they will lower Kevin Zeitler’s bass salary
Man Pat's reporting  
dep026 : 3/11/2019 9:17 am : link
is really slipping.
RE: Man Pat's reporting  
BeckShepEli : 3/11/2019 9:21 am : link
In comment 14323623 dep026 said:
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is really slipping.


Which part the Eli Manning part(which I believe something would have been done already or Kevin part?
RE: RE: Man Pat's reporting  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14323634 BeckShepEli said:
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is really slipping.



Which part the Eli Manning part(which I believe something would have been done already or Kevin part?


It's dep, clearly the Eli part.
RE: Rumor is Tyrod Taylor  
The_Boss : 3/11/2019 9:26 am : link
In comment 14323615 jvm52106 said:
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could be next QB in Miami.. Wow.


The tank is being assembled as we speak in South Florida.
RE: RE: Giants  
CromartiesKid21 : 3/11/2019 9:30 am : link
In comment 14323519 Big Rick in FL said:
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Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?



No they won't be cheap. According to our very own JonC the Giants will be aggressive in free agent Safeties.


Ranaan..."Deone Buchannon to sign with the NYG when FA begins"
RE: RE: Man Pat's reporting  
dep026 : 3/11/2019 9:31 am : link
In comment 14323634 BeckShepEli said:
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is really slipping.



Which part the Eli Manning part(which I believe something would have been done already or Kevin part?


bass salary? Come on, she is a professional writer. And even her intel and inside info has been spotty at best over the last few years.
RE: RE: RE: Giants  
The_Boss : 3/11/2019 9:33 am : link
In comment 14323652 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?



No they won't be cheap. According to our very own JonC the Giants will be aggressive in free agent Safeties.



Ranaan..."Deone Buchannon to sign with the NYG when FA begins"


Anyone credible corroborating this?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Giants  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14323658 The_Boss said:
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Anyone credible corroborating this?


His opinion pieces are ESPN quality (perfect fit there), but he's as credible as any beat since Garafolo.
RE: RE: Amendola to the Lions  
DavidinBMNY : 3/11/2019 9:39 am : link
In comment 14323510 90.Cal said:
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Taking his physical now.




Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Lions plan to sign former #Patriots and #Dolphins WR Danny Amendola to a 1-year deal that includes $4.5M guaranteed base, source said. With incentives, that can bring him to $5.75M. Great addition to the locker room.
+ the NE connection. Smart move. I wouldn't be surprised to see other NE or x-NE players wind up in Detroit.
RE: Hmm..  
DavidinBMNY : 3/11/2019 9:41 am : link
In comment 14323593 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Sounds a lot like the Stewart signing last year:



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Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
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The #Lions plan to sign former #Patriots and #Dolphins WR Danny Amendola to a 1-year deal that includes $4.5M guaranteed base, source said. With incentives, that can bring him to $5.75M. Great addition to the locker room.



A 33 year old WR who is oft-injured, has exactly one reception over 40 yards in the past 5 seasons and has had 2 or less TD's in 6 of his 10 years in the league.
Agreed. It's not fantasy football. Locker Room. mentoring, playoff/SB experience, being a professional, are all parts of it.
no one says locker room and mentoring aren't important  
giants#1 : 3/11/2019 9:50 am : link
but they're not things that teams need to pay a premium for. Doubt teams were lining up for Stewart last year or Amendola this year. Both guys likely could've been signed for half of what they were given.

That said, the Stewart signing also isn't worth all the hand wringing (either way) so I'll refrain from responding to this any further.
RE: RE: RE: Giants  
Eli Wilson : 3/11/2019 9:54 am : link
In comment 14323652 CromartiesKid21 said:
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Are Zadarius or Preston Smith expected to be cheap contracts? Any Safety news via FA, or is that more likely in draft?



No they won't be cheap. According to our very own JonC the Giants will be aggressive in free agent Safeties.



Ranaan..."Deone Buchannon to sign with the NYG when FA begins"


Is he being signed as a Safety or LB?
If they sing Bucanan  
jeff57 : 3/11/2019 9:56 am : link
I would assume it is to play mostly ILB. That's what he played under Betcher in Arizona.
RE: If they sing Bucanan  
Big Blue '56 : 3/11/2019 10:04 am : link
In comment 14323713 jeff57 said:
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I would assume it is to play mostly ILB. That's what he played under Betcher in Arizona.


You need to re-examine yourthumbs technique
meetings allowed  
Pep22 : 3/11/2019 10:09 am : link
and unofficial signing announcements allowed at 12pm?
nothing about Buchanon  
Bill in UT : 3/11/2019 10:21 am : link
that excites me. Bettcher has just brought JAGs over from AZ
Has..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/11/2019 10:25 am : link
Bettcher brought anyone over from Arizona besides Kereem Martin?

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Bettcher has just brought JAGs over from AZ
RE: Has..  
jeff57 : 3/11/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14323773 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Bettcher brought anyone over from Arizona besides Kereem Martin?



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Bettcher has just brought JAGs over from AZ



Mauro
People don't like to hear it but  
Chris684 : 3/11/2019 10:36 am : link
Mauro and Martin were brought here, first, to fill out the roster during defensive overhaul, and second, based on talent.

Last year they had a new coordinator implementing a new defensive front. They needed bodies to fill out the 3-4 scheme they were changing to and with the salary cap limitations and X number of picks through the draft, you can't switch from 4-3 to a 3-4 and sign a top player at every position. They needed guys on the field last spring and summer and throughout the season who already had knowledge of what Betcher is trying to do to expedite the transition.
The AZ guys who could possibly be  
Bill in UT : 3/11/2019 10:41 am : link
difference makers, if they're healthy , are Honeybadger and Golden. Don't know what either is asking.
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