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DanMetroMan : 3/11/2019 9:15 am
Fun battle going on

-Drew Smith back to NY for an MRI on his elbow (not good)

-Oswalt has touched 94-95, I like him as an "extra" guy but I remain concerned with the SP depth. Brodie has done a strong job adding to the positional depth (OF not great) but the SP is insanely thin.

-Don't like the idea being pushed of Rosario 8th. CF should hit 8th at least until Lowrie returns.

-This lineup should be very solid (especially once Lowrie returns) really think they need to add additional SP depth. They will need roughly 10 to get through the season and those arms barring a rapid ascent from guys like Kay or Peterson simply don't exist.

-Please sign Josh Fields. Thanks.
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ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 3:08 pm : link
He might give you 30 plus home runs, even as a rookie. The power is that good. - Jim Callis on Pete Alonso#Mets #LGM
lol Rhame...  
ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 3:13 pm : link
Man, let hope Bashlor, Hanhold, Ryan, etc all see the majors before Rhame this year.
RE: I wish arc stuck around to see....  
ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 3:19 pm : link
In comment 14324536 Drewcon40 said:
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...how well Vargas is pitching. I think that was the his final straw.


Lovitz! lol

To each their own, but seriously dont get it. I semi get rooting for the Yankees. Fine, your pissed at the Mets, root for the other NY team. MANY people root for NY sports period so that isnt that strange even though I would never do it. I just dont get how you could never be a Mets fan again after rooting for them for 30+ years. So if Conforto, Nimmo, Rosario, Thor, deGrom, Wheeler, etc are in the playoffs this year you arent rooting for them?? That's just odd to me, if not stubborn even, to spite your nose to cut off your face... all to make a point.
And to be clear not criticizing anyone  
ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 3:22 pm : link
Just trying to work through it if it were me. lol
RE: RE: I wish arc stuck around to see....  
Drewcon40 : 3/11/2019 3:24 pm : link
In comment 14324589 ZGiants98 said:
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...how well Vargas is pitching. I think that was the his final straw.



Lovitz! lol

To each their own, but seriously dont get it. I semi get rooting for the Yankees. Fine, your pissed at the Mets, root for the other NY team. MANY people root for NY sports period so that isnt that strange even though I would never do it. I just dont get how you could never be a Mets fan again after rooting for them for 30+ years. So if Conforto, Nimmo, Rosario, Thor, deGrom, Wheeler, etc are in the playoffs this year you arent rooting for them?? That's just odd to me, if not stubborn even, to spite your nose to cut off your face... all to make a point.


Hahaha - I remember the one post I literally lol'd when he posted Vargas stats in a sarcastic rant - and ended it with "come get some".

Good dude.
I think Im really just bummed we lost one of our most level headed  
ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 3:29 pm : link
posters here. lol.

I definitely err to the optimistic side. I think there's 4-5 posters here that definitely err to the pessimistic side.

Arc was the balance.
RE: I think Im really just bummed we lost one of our most level headed  
Drewcon40 : 3/11/2019 3:32 pm : link
In comment 14324644 ZGiants98 said:
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posters here. lol.

I definitely err to the optimistic side. I think there's 4-5 posters here that definitely err to the pessimistic side.

Arc was the balance.


Yep, Yankees win again. They get our good fans as well.
which side am I on?  
CMicks3110 : 3/11/2019 3:44 pm : link
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CMicks3110 : 3/11/2019 3:52 pm : link
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Hey @Pete_Alonso20 make sure the trainers check out that brick wall you call a body post game. 💪🏻
Tommy  
DanMetroMan : 3/11/2019 4:10 pm : link
John for Drew Smith. See you second half 2020...
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ChaChing : 3/11/2019 4:34 pm : link
In comment 14324723 CMicks3110 said:
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Hey @Pete_Alonso20 make sure the trainers check out that brick wall you call a body post game. 💪🏻

They were interviewing him immediately after that play:

"He's a little bigger boy than me..."
"...guess I shoulda laid down a better bunt!"
I don't see the point of having  
CMicks3110 : 3/11/2019 4:40 pm : link
both Lagares and Broxton on this roster. They need to make a trade. It makes more sense to have rajai davis than it does to have Lagares at this point. I would eat some of his salary and trade him some int'l slot money or something. Davis is a base stealer, will be pivotal late in games and can also be a defensive replacement. Just makes more sense.
Rajai  
DanMetroMan : 3/11/2019 4:44 pm : link
Davis has indicated he will be opting out if he doesn't make the team. Liriano has an Asia opt out, we shall see on him. Hech has a final day of ST opt out, Gomez no word on his opt out.
DAN  
CMicks3110 : 3/11/2019 4:51 pm : link
do you agree though, that it's a waste of resources to keep Lagares?
RE: DAN  
DanMetroMan : 3/11/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14324908 CMicks3110 said:
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do you agree though, that it's a waste of resources to keep Lagares?


I fully agree. Given his cost he's overpaid given the realistic best case (+ glove). Reports on his throwing have been very poor and I suspect his arm never recovered from that injury a few years ago. That being said I'm sure they have tried.
If that's the case  
CMicks3110 : 3/11/2019 4:54 pm : link
and if you believe Brodie's sentiment of the "best" 25, i think you have to cut Lagares and eat the money. There is absolutely no point to having both.
I'm not sure that we have the OF  
Metnut : 3/11/2019 5:16 pm : link
depth to cut Lagares. I havn't seen how he looks this spring, so if he looks like shit then ignore me, but we have pretty poor OF depth in AAA and our system, and really don't any have any natural CFs other than Broxton.

IMO, Lagares fills a need on our roster. Unless there's a particular player or upgrade that cutting Lagares allows us to obtain, I don't see the point in doing it and weakening our roster just to gain "financial flexibility" which who knows if the Wilpons will even use.
Rajai Davis and Carlos Gomez  
Metnut : 3/11/2019 5:18 pm : link
did not play like guys who belong on a big league roster in 2018. If either of them (barring Gomez showing a serious improvement in Syracuse) play major innings for us, we're in trouble.

Lagares is always hurt but at least offers the likelihood of being an above average reserve player.
RE: which side am I on?  
ZGiants98 : 3/11/2019 5:22 pm : link
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Optimistic. ;)
RE: RE: Both  
giantsFC : 3/11/2019 11:51 pm : link
In comment 14323889 DanMetroMan said:
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Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control?
You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he wont be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision.
Alonso at 1st
Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?



Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps.


Just sayin. Its obvously been discussed within the clubhouse
Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window )
RE: RE: RE: Both  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14325529 giantsFC said:
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Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control?
You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he wont be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision.
Alonso at 1st
Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?



Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps.



Just sayin. Its obvously been discussed within the clubhouse Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window )


Mickey has said 1b-only for Dom.
Liriano can opt-out for Asia  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2019 9:05 am : link

Rhame is garbage

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We've optioned Paul Sewald and Jacob Rhame to minor league camp and re-assigned Arquimedes Caminero, Andrs Gimnez, Dilson Herrera, Rymer Liriano, Ali Snchez and Tim Tebow to minor league camp. #Mets
RE: RE: RE: RE: Both  
giantsFC : 3/12/2019 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14325784 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 14323889 DanMetroMan said:


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Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control?
You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he wont be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision.
Alonso at 1st
Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?



Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps.



Just sayin. Its obvously been discussed within the clubhouse Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window )



Mickey has said 1b-only for Dom.


Callaway so far can't even figure out how to do a lineup card or knows who or what is going on w team defense decisions. Not the best source IMO. I think Keith Hernandez actually may know more lol. Why would you ever limit a player's versatility in modern times w a silly statement as that as a manager? makes zero sense.
Moze got called out the other day  
Shecky : 3/12/2019 2:10 pm : link
And Giants resurfaced. Must be a coincidence...
you all some paranoid weirdos  
giantsFC : 3/12/2019 2:35 pm : link
god damn.

I'm me. Myself. And I.

Does any new person who has the capability of googling "giants message board" get treated as some former nemesis?

you all just as paranoid and creepy as lard ass grandpa in charlotte.
RBI  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2019 2:59 pm : link
double for Dom

.414/.485/.586

1 perfect 3 k's for Santiago
Awesome news  
ZGiants98 : 3/12/2019 5:27 pm : link
Lowrie has begun hitting and throwing.

I personally dont get why McNeil isnt getting every rep possible in LF. Its where hes going to end up sooner than later anyway. We already know he can play 3B/2B if he has to. Why waste time with it during practice?
RE: Awesome news  
giantsFC : 3/12/2019 11:16 pm : link
In comment 14327343 ZGiants98 said:
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Lowrie has begun hitting and throwing.

I personally dont get why McNeil isnt getting every rep possible in LF. Its where hes going to end up sooner than later anyway. We already know he can play 3B/2B if he has to. Why waste time with it during practice?



At least the Mets have a good problem this spring training so many guys hitting well...versus the norm of many of the teams the past 2 decades.


And I won't even speak of the pitching bc of superstition.
I agree but the roster is a little awkward.  
ZGiants98 : 3/13/2019 12:04 am : link
Smith and Alonso are both hitting but only one can start. The other really needs to go to AAA. McNeil deserves to play after what he did last year (all of last year) but he's being jerked around a bit. Just put him in LF and leave him there until Cespedes get's back. JD Davis is hitting but is he screwed for somebody like Frazier? Yuck.

Love the depth but all these moving pieces are not exactly ideal.
Hitter wise anyway  
ZGiants98 : 3/13/2019 12:04 am : link
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RE: I agree but the roster is a little awkward.  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 1:00 am : link
In comment 14330227 ZGiants98 said:
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Smith and Alonso are both hitting but only one can start. The other really needs to go to AAA. McNeil deserves to play after what he did last year (all of last year) but he's being jerked around a bit. Just put him in LF and leave him there until Cespedes get's back. JD Davis is hitting but is he screwed for somebody like Frazier? Yuck.

Love the depth but all these moving pieces are not exactly ideal.


Davis has def earned the opening day start. Frazier can take as long as he wants. Id prefer him as a later depth piece for an inevitable injury to be honest.

I just want to see the best bats on the roster instead of the service time crap and/or they need abs philopshy. No other sport does this.
Either way I think theyll move  
ZGiants98 : 3/13/2019 8:28 am : link
McNeil to 3B then and start Lagares in CF temporarily then.
Gimenez  
DanMetroMan : 3/13/2019 9:47 am : link
to open in AA, as expected and the correct move.
Tony Sipp to the Nats, 1 yr $1.25M  
ChaChing : 3/13/2019 1:33 pm : link
While on paper I would have liked him for the Mets, any thoughts on why a guy who had such a good year had to wait this long for this little? Considering so many teams need BP help every year. I guess it's been a weird offseason in general
Cano 2 run dinger  
ChaChing : 3/13/2019 2:17 pm : link
after a real slick out on a chopper the half inning prior. Expected

Ramos with an opposite field single

Pete gets an opposite field 2-run HR robbed, wind knocked it down tho
RE: Cano 2 run dinger  
Shecky : 3/13/2019 3:02 pm : link
In comment 14333101 ChaChing said:
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after a real slick out on a chopper the half inning prior. Expected

Ramos with an opposite field single

Pete gets an opposite field 2-run HR robbed, wind knocked it down tho


Strong wind I. From right, robbed Cano of a second earlier, but also saved Thor
Damn...  
ZGiants98 : 3/14/2019 9:40 pm : link
Wheeler absolutely dominant today AGAIN... Crickets?
This is the least interest in a Mets Spring  
Shecky : 3/14/2019 9:53 pm : link
For as far as I can remember around here and at the end of the day, I think thats a good thing.

Wheeler sat 95, worked through some things. A much more mature Wheelertoday, as much as that hurts me to say.
McNeil had many insisting he was a fluke last year,but damn is he a professional hitter.
Cano is so smooth, slick. What a huge addition on and off the field.
Alonso absolutely annihilates theball. Every. Single AB.
Davis hit one today that traveled about 50 further than it looked off the bat prototypical rising golf ball today.
Worried Hech May somehow make this roster. No way he makes it till the All star break. Outstanding in the field, but his swing makes Ordonez look like he was a slugger.
Familia looks thicker. Was 93/94 again today.
Miss having Gimenez at ML camp. This is going to be the oddest comp you will ever hear on him. It makes no sense but every time I see him, its the first name that comes to mind. And I cant explain it lol. Tino Martinez...
Lots of excitement coming from those backfields lately.
Plus it was radio today, not broadcast  
ChaChing : 3/14/2019 10:04 pm : link
Aside from wheels, McNeil 3-4, Alonso 2-4

Wilson gave up a triple & double in succession, but settled in and only gave up that 1 run bot 7th. All other pitchers went for 0

Next half inning McNeil gets a single, Lagares bunts him over, JD Davis with a ground rule double scoring McNeil. Nice way to generate a run late game. The rest of the inning fills the bases so the good ABs continue, but Nido can't produce anything more
I will say  
Shecky : 3/14/2019 10:16 pm : link
Of everyone Ive seen this spring, aside from the studs. The one guy Ive seen who would be the perfect fit for the amets is Harrison Bader. Far from a star, you cant have 25 stars. But this kid would flat out be the PERFECT fit on this team!!!
Tempted to post someone is signing  
Shecky : 3/15/2019 8:32 am : link
Just to stir up the masses around here and wake everyone up lol
RE: Tempted to post someone is signing  
GF1080 : 3/15/2019 12:05 pm : link
In comment 14339078 Shecky said:
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Just to stir up the masses around here and wake everyone up lol


Well is there? :p
Matz strrrrugling  
ChaChing : 3/15/2019 1:46 pm : link
4 HRs, 7 hits in 2 innings. 8-0. There's a little help from the wind but man
Gotta be Gio?  
ZGiants98 : 3/15/2019 2:18 pm : link
Damn you Shecky.
Jenry Mejia  
Metnut : 3/15/2019 2:21 pm : link
5ip, 6k, 2r vs the yankees today. just retired voit, andujar and sanchez in order.
Why did we cut Mejia again?  
bhill410 : 3/15/2019 3:58 pm : link
Did he piss ownership off that much that we just gave up on him?

Shecky how has Matz otherwise looked this year?
Iirc 3 positive PEDs tests as a Met  
ChaChing : 3/15/2019 4:35 pm : link
As a team you really can't continue with that can you?
I mean why not?  
bhill410 : 3/15/2019 4:47 pm : link
Obviously dont build your team around him but its an asset that you control. Why not take advantage of it warts and all.

RE: I mean why not?  
Jim in Fairfax : 3/15/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14340683 bhill410 said:
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Obviously dont build your team around him but its an asset that you control. Why not take advantage of it warts and all.

Would have required them to release someone else since he had to be added to the 40 man roster.
Maybe there's more to it, I'm no expert  
ChaChing : 3/15/2019 4:59 pm : link
I have no idea about control and all that especially in baseball

But he's playing after coming back from what was a lifetime ban. I assume next time it won't be a 'fake' one. So ala Will Hill for example, how many chances should he get after burning the team?

Not arguing with you just opining
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