NFT: Mets Chat: Dom or Alonso?

gets two week audition, Alonso gets his time served in Syracuse and if Dom earns it he buys more time unless Alonso keeps hitting the cover off the ball. If he does you swap Alonso for Dom once Alonso gets his two weeks in Syracuse.

Rose (who I love) had the most asinine idea at 1b to open the season (platoon). Serves zero purpose.

- Alonso posted a .962 OPS vs. righties last year, he likely won't do that (or close) as a big leaguer but he hits righties, you're going to sit him vs. them?

-First 11 games includes 6 with the Nats, 3 with the Marlins 2 with the Twins. The Nats have 1 LH starter, the Marlins have 1 (Chen), Twins none. How many starts is Alonso getting over those first 11 to throw away a year of service time? 3? 4? Would be truly idiotic.

to start Alonso in Queens. Especially since they have options.

He won't be happy with it, no rookie is, but until MLB changes that rule, it's a no-brainer.

In comment 14323628 pjcas18 said:

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gets two week audition, Alonso gets his time served in Syracuse and if Dom earns it he buys more time unless Alonso keeps hitting the cover off the ball. If he does you swap Alonso for Dom once Alonso gets his two weeks in Syracuse.

My feelings exactly. Dom has done well enough this preseason to earn that audition. After the last few seasons perhaps it will help his confidence to know that performance is rewarded. As for pitching depth, Lockett has looked better than I expected though he needs to keep the ball in the ballpark. Also glad to see Avilan have a strong Spring because it would be nice to have a lefty in the pen who can pitch to more than one batter.

Gio is still out there, how long do you think he waits before accepting a 1-year deal?

It would make a lot of sense from both sides, especially for the Mets since Dowdy has been awful.

I would consider putting McNeil there. I know it sounds crazy, but he is probably the best hitter on the Mets in terms of not swinging and missing at balls out of the strike zone. My concern with Rosario in that spot is with pitchers on deck they won't give him anything to hit because he won't be willing to draw a walk.

If you're going to send Pete to the minors -- you might as well make it for the full length and get credit for the Service Time.

A 2-week audition for Dom ?? They play the Nats 6 times in the first 2 weeks.....what kind of stats would Dom put up against that pitching staff ?? Dom Smith might benefit from a longer stretch of solid playing time. He might actually improve his trade value.

I believe just about every team in the League, including the Yankees would take advantage of that Service Time clause.

and Lockett have been cut from MLB camp.

Both Dom & Pete will make the team on Opening Day. Frazier to the 60 Day disabled list. Lowrie to the regular Disabled list. Davis is your everyday 3rd Baseman.

In comment 14323681 Mike in NY said:

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I would consider putting McNeil there. I know it sounds crazy, but he is probably the best hitter on the Mets in terms of not swinging and missing at balls out of the strike zone. My concern with Rosario in that spot is with pitchers on deck they won't give him anything to hit because he won't be willing to draw a walk.

I can see them doing something similar to last year with either Rosario or Mcneil in the 9 hole and having the P bat 8th

Let Dom play for two weeks. Either he earns more time or you bring up Alonso at that point.

In comment 14323717 No Where Man said:

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Both Dom & Pete will make the team on Opening Day. Frazier to the 60 Day disabled list. Lowrie to the regular Disabled list. Davis is your everyday 3rd Baseman.

This makes absolutely no sense. You are starting Alonso's clock, losing a year of control to have him play at best 5-6 games? This option makes the least sense of all of them.

1) Dom starting
2) Biting the bullet, accepting losing a year on Alonso and he's your guy

Those are the only 2 options that make sense

Both is mind blowingly bad especially when they can't be in the lineup at the same time.

and to a lesser degree JD Davis too. Alonso gives you someone that can provide a spark 2-3 weeks down the road if the team starts off a little flat. Unlike the other 2 he's also never faced big league pitching in the regular season. Let him get his feet under him in the minors then call him up.

I'm really encouraged to see the positive signs from Mcneil, Rosario, and Conforto this spring. Cano too. There is just a different vibe in terms of how the entire team is approaching at bats in a more comfortable way. Maybe that works maybe it doesn't, but we know the old way of doing things led to awful situational hitting year after year after year.

I'm also less enthused about the depth on the pitching side of things. For the life of me I have no idea whey they spent somewhere between $5-10m (depending on which options hit) on TDA/Mesoraco/Hechavarria instead of putting that money on the pitching staff. Guillorme (9/21 this spring with 3 XBH) and 1 of the catchers could suffice and I guess there's still time if they choose.

1) Nimmo/CF
2) Rosario/SS
3) Conforto/RF
4) Ramos/C
5) Cano/2B
6) Davis/3B
7) Smith/1B
8) McNeil/LF

That gives you L/R/L/R/L/R/L/L otherwise you can have Cano and Ramos swap and Davis and Smith swap so your back to back lefties will be 3/4 rather than 7/8

we have Wilson Ramos hitting cleanup.

Ugh.

Honestly how can the front office say they are going for it/the team to beat when that's the case?

Gross.

depth 100% is an issue/concern. No way around it. I choose to be positive about this roster but as Eric noted they made some very curious budgetary decisions. Hech in particular was an odd addition at 3 million. He has PROVEN he can't hit MLB pitching. He's glove only, Guillorme could have provided that for 1/6th of the price.

In comment 14323731 Mike in NY said:

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1) Nimmo/CF 2) Rosario/SS 3) Conforto/RF 4) Ramos/C 5) Cano/2B 6) Davis/3B 7) Smith/1B 8) McNeil/LF That gives you L/R/L/R/L/R/L/L otherwise you can have Cano and Ramos swap and Davis and Smith swap so your back to back lefties will be 3/4 rather than 7/8

I know it's not ideal, but I think they need to just stack the lefties.

Cano should hit 3rd, Conforto should hit 4th, and Ramos 5th.

Rosario vs. Mcneil for 2nd can go either way. I'd probably ride the hot hand, especially in the rare games when we face a L.

I'm just taking BVW at his word here. I believe Alex Cora said that right now, Alonso is the best hitter in Florida, bar none. Would it make sense to send him down for the first few games to get another year of control? Of course it would. But what I believe the GM is trying to do here is send a clear message that the best players will play regardless of any contractual situation. That wasn't always the case with this team. See the Oliver Perez debacle for proof....

In comment 14323792 No Where Man said:

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I'm just taking BVW at his word here. I believe Alex Cora said that right now, Alonso is the best hitter in Florida, bar none. Would it make sense to send him down for the first few games to get another year of control? Of course it would. But what I believe the GM is trying to do here is send a clear message that the best players will play regardless of any contractual situation. That wasn't always the case with this team. See the Oliver Perez debacle for proof....

So then you don't carry Dom Smith. He's exclusively a 1b and he needs reps. What does Dom Smith add to the Mets roster while on the bench? Can't carry Alonso, JD Davis and Dom Smith at the same time.

they should have added him as the backup at that price.

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I don't know whose pitch framing stats are better and baseball prospectus' say Maldonado had a down year last year, but even his arm alone would have been helpful to slow down the running game in those few series a year where teams try to run wild on Thor.

2 seasons clouds Maldonado's numbers. Showed steep decline in 2018 and is 32. Catchers have shown to fall off VERY quickly with even pitch framing. I'd take him over TDA but he very well might have been waiting on a starting/platoon job (not an option here).

Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control?
You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision.
Alonso at 1st
Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?

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we have Wilson Ramos hitting cleanup. Ugh. Honestly how can the front office say they are going for it/the team to beat when that's the case? Gross.

yo do you ever do anything on Mets threads other then complain. Go find another team if your gonna bitch all the time

In comment 14323845 giantsFC said:

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Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control? You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision. Alonso at 1st Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?

You're talking about legit 5 or so games for each player for that single year of control not to mention what confidence are they they gaining riding the pine 50% of the time?

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Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control? You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision. Alonso at 1st Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH?

Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps.

In comment 14323758 DanMetroMan said:

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depth 100% is an issue/concern. No way around it. I choose to be positive about this roster but as Eric noted they made some very curious budgetary decisions. Hech in particular was an odd addition at 3 million. He has PROVEN he can't hit MLB pitching. He's glove only, Guillorme could have provided that for 1/6th of the price.

DMM - you say this as if it is a forgone conclusion Hech has already made the opening day roster. I think they will try to send him to Syracuse and keep him there for as long as possible, only calling him up if Rosario goes down for an extended period.

Think of him like a $3M insurance option in case we need a SS. I believe he only gets paid for making the roster and for games played.

Nimmo (CF)
Alonso (1b)
Cano (2b)
Ramos (c)
Conforto (RF)
McNeil (SS)
Rosario (SS)
Dom (LF)

on Alonso, especially with Smith looking like a viable option at 1B with a strong spring. Hopefully Brodie's comments don't end up costing us a year of Alonso.

Dan's right about the pitching and we've been harping on it for a while. It looks like the front office isn't going to do anything there given the late date. Nice to see Oswalt flashing a little bit this spring but it's pretty thin when he's the #6 guy.

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In comment 14323758 DanMetroMan said: Quote: depth 100% is an issue/concern. No way around it. I choose to be positive about this roster but as Eric noted they made some very curious budgetary decisions. Hech in particular was an odd addition at 3 million. He has PROVEN he can't hit MLB pitching. He's glove only, Guillorme could have provided that for 1/6th of the price. DMM - you say this as if it is a forgone conclusion Hech has already made the opening day roster. I think they will try to send him to Syracuse and keep him there for as long as possible, only calling him up if Rosario goes down for an extended period. Think of him like a $3M insurance option in case we need a SS. I believe he only gets paid for making the roster and for games played.

Mickey has talked him up as if he's making the roster. I can only take the manager at his word. Hech aside, TDA same thing, 3+ million if he makes the roster. Money better spent on one of the flier SP's.

In comment 14323966 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14323923 debo_GIANTS said: Quote: In comment 14323758 DanMetroMan said: Quote: depth 100% is an issue/concern. No way around it. I choose to be positive about this roster but as Eric noted they made some very curious budgetary decisions. Hech in particular was an odd addition at 3 million. He has PROVEN he can't hit MLB pitching. He's glove only, Guillorme could have provided that for 1/6th of the price. DMM - you say this as if it is a forgone conclusion Hech has already made the opening day roster. I think they will try to send him to Syracuse and keep him there for as long as possible, only calling him up if Rosario goes down for an extended period. Think of him like a $3M insurance option in case we need a SS. I believe he only gets paid for making the roster and for games played. Mickey has talked him up as if he's making the roster. I can only take the manager at his word. Hech aside, TDA same thing, 3+ million if he makes the roster. Money better spent on one of the flier SP's.

Would you take Hech and TDA or Guillorme/Mesoraco and Derek Holland (1 yr $7M deal)? I'd take the latter and it's not even close. Not a huge difference in money.

one without thinking twice. Holland, Buchholz, Santana, Brett Anderson (1.5 guaranteed!), Tyson Ross, Miley 4.5! There were plenty of these guys who made some sense.

per Rosenthal source.

That makes me nervous they will take Alonso over Smith but if they do do that at least be fair. Take Guillorme over Hech who's clearly earned that spot based on the spring.

Bleh. I kind of like the Smith, Alonso, JD Davis battles brewing without Frazier gunking things up.

is they simply want to avoid the confrontation all together. Might sound stupid but what do you do in 2 weeks if Smith is hitting ok but Alonso is still clearly the better long term option in AAA? "Sorry Smith, you have done nothing wrong... you're hitting now... but See ya! Off to AAA you go!"

Really bad optics.

RP's Sandy traded for are really having a wonderful go of it aren't they? lol

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Or has Shecky alluded to TDA starts year on DL.

And I am petrified that the Mets will do something silly like break camp with Alonso since BVW has seemingly made it a mission to be more player centric. I told myself I won�t get beyond annoyed but I have zero confidence in my ability to do so.

Mets can justify starting Dom and sending down Alonso.
Both get AB's and you look at it again in May.

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Or has Shecky alluded to TDA starts year on DL. And I am petrified that the Mets will do something silly like break camp with Alonso since BVW has seemingly made it a mission to be more player centric. I told myself I won�t get beyond annoyed but I have zero confidence in my ability to do so.

Mesoraco signed a minor league deal. He can opt out but not sure he would really want to. It's not like he's having a huge spring and teams would be beating down the door for him.

Guillorme (.429/.520/.667) vs. Hechavarria (.167/.250/.333, and costs 6 times more)

Go with Guillorme

starting on the DL if he's catching in games and hitting bombs with 2 weeks to go IMO.

In comment 14324095 DanMetroMan said:

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Guillorme (.429/.520/.667) vs. Hechavarria (.167/.250/.333, and costs 6 times more) Go with Guillorme

Heck yeah. He looks stronger to me this year too. Put on some muscle and is hitting with more authority.

is the 40 man juggling act when deciding who makes/stays on the OD roster and beyond. As much as the service time thing is a no brainier, so are some 40 man moves.

In comment 14324110 Shecky said:

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is the 40 man juggling act when deciding who makes/stays on the OD roster and beyond. As much as the service time thing is a no brainier, so are some 40 man moves.

True but they just removed TJ Rivera so they can easily add Alonso there. Who else? Guillorme is on the 40, Hech isnt. Same for TDA over Mesoraco.

Just release him.

to get the extra year of service time but if the Mets feel Alonso is "their guy" and he's the next Goldschmidt or whatever... Im not going to be mad about it. We are trying to win in 2019 and every game counts so I semi-get it.

They may bring him north
BUT
Under literally no scenario does it make sense.
Unless you think he�s a monster and have zero alternatives. Well they have several alternatives, and if he IS a monster... that would literally be the number one reason you would WANT to control him an extra year...

In comment 14324182 Shecky said:

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They may bring him north BUT Under literally no scenario does it make sense. Unless you think he�s a monster and have zero alternatives. Well they have several alternatives, and if he IS a monster... that would literally be the number one reason you would WANT to control him an extra year...

Also starting the year with your best team isn't as important as finishing the year with your best team. Even if Alonso ends up the better 1B, Dom Smith could be an important chip to trade at some point to help accomplish the latter. Developing both of them is the optimal result for the team.

Me. I would trade Dom. Bring back some young talent.

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They may bring him north BUT Under literally no scenario does it make sense. Unless you think he�s a monster and have zero alternatives. Well they have several alternatives, and if he IS a monster... that would literally be the number one reason you would WANT to control him an extra year...

True.

Mets Lineup:

Brandon Nimmo (CF)
Jeff McNeil (3B)
Robinson Cano (2B)
Michael Conforto (RF)
Pete Alonso (1B)
Danny Espinosa (DH)
Gregor Blanco (LF)
Devin Mesoraco (C)
Amed Rosario (SS)

Starting Pitching: Jason Vargas

or is he pretty much going straight to the minors?

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One thing I heard today: Mets are much more likely to carry 7 relievers than 8 for the first month of the season because of all the built-in off days. Luis Avilan and Hector Santiago are strong candidates for those final two spots, behind Diaz, Familia, Wilson, Lugo and Gsellman.

This is getting insane.

My bad. lol

Mets up 3-0 early against the potential Astros 5th starter. Start the season.

at all aimed at ZGiants and I think Alonso will be VERY good but the Goldschmidt stuff isn't fair. Goldschmidt was an insane college hitter who has never stopped hitting. Career .352 in college, .317 in the minors. Not saying Alonso can't be everything we want but Goldschmidt is a freak.

Was just saying if they consider him the "next big thing", "huge impact bat" etc.

with one out. Nice.

Alonso though. He just as an "it" factor I haven't felt in a while. His abats are starting to feel like must watch TV (I know its only ST) but I dont think I remember thinking that about a guy in sometime.

He could be the next "face of the franchise" with Wright finally hanging it up.

or someone else on the radio broadcast who started the Goldschmidt comps and it had more to do with overcoming defensive issues at 1b. Goldy eventually turned himself into a gold glover. Alonso has been putting in extra work by all reports.

But his one strength defensively he has is really the only thing I give a damn about for 1B and that's picking up tough throws. He is excellent at it. He can be a tank out there but if catches all the tough throws he's fine by me.

Real nice strong/accurate throw from McNeil at 3B.

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Jason Vargas' Grapefruit League ERA: 1.23, tops among Mets starters. Vargas has eight strikeouts and two walks in 7.2 IP.

He just trucked a base runner while reaching out for a throw - and made a nice catch considering all that

Vargas w/ 4 scoreless & Lugo w/ a 5 pitch 5th

Brewers announced that Mike Moustakas will be their full time second baseman. He�s never played there in pro ball-mlb or minors- in his career.

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One thing I've heard: Mets talked to starters during the offseason (Clay Buccholz, Gio Gonzalez, etc.) However, they weren't going to guarantee a spot. They have Vargas there, and they like how he finished.

Salary is obviously a factor, but let's be fair, it is for every team.

...how well Vargas is pitching. I think that was the his final straw.

�He might give you 30 plus home runs, even as a rookie. The power is that good.� - Jim Callis on Pete Alonso#Mets #LGM

Man, let hope Bashlor, Hanhold, Ryan, etc all see the majors before Rhame this year.

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...how well Vargas is pitching. I think that was the his final straw.

Lovitz! lol

To each their own, but seriously dont get it. I semi get rooting for the Yankees. Fine, your pissed at the Mets, root for the other NY team. MANY people root for NY sports period so that isnt that strange even though I would never do it. I just dont get how you could never be a Mets fan again after rooting for them for 30+ years. So if Conforto, Nimmo, Rosario, Thor, deGrom, Wheeler, etc are in the playoffs this year you arent rooting for them?? That's just odd to me, if not stubborn even, to spite your nose to cut off your face... all to make a point.

Just trying to work through it if it were me. lol

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In comment 14324536 Drewcon40 said: Quote: ...how well Vargas is pitching. I think that was the his final straw. Lovitz! lol To each their own, but seriously dont get it. I semi get rooting for the Yankees. Fine, your pissed at the Mets, root for the other NY team. MANY people root for NY sports period so that isnt that strange even though I would never do it. I just dont get how you could never be a Mets fan again after rooting for them for 30+ years. So if Conforto, Nimmo, Rosario, Thor, deGrom, Wheeler, etc are in the playoffs this year you arent rooting for them?? That's just odd to me, if not stubborn even, to spite your nose to cut off your face... all to make a point.

Hahaha - I remember the one post I literally lol'd when he posted Vargas stats in a sarcastic rant - and ended it with "come get some".

Good dude.

posters here. lol.

I definitely err to the optimistic side. I think there's 4-5 posters here that definitely err to the pessimistic side.

Arc was the balance.

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posters here. lol. I definitely err to the optimistic side. I think there's 4-5 posters here that definitely err to the pessimistic side. Arc was the balance.

Yep, Yankees win again. They get our good fans as well.

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John for Drew Smith. See you second half 2020...

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Josh Reddick ‏ Verified account @RealJoshReddick 27m27 minutes ago More Hey @Pete_Alonso20 make sure the trainers check out that brick wall you call a body post game. 💪🏻

They were interviewing him immediately after that play:

"He's a little bigger boy than me..."
"...guess I shoulda laid down a better bunt!"

both Lagares and Broxton on this roster. They need to make a trade. It makes more sense to have rajai davis than it does to have Lagares at this point. I would eat some of his salary and trade him some int'l slot money or something. Davis is a base stealer, will be pivotal late in games and can also be a defensive replacement. Just makes more sense.

Davis has indicated he will be opting out if he doesn't make the team. Liriano has an Asia opt out, we shall see on him. Hech has a final day of ST opt out, Gomez no word on his opt out.

do you agree though, that it's a waste of resources to keep Lagares?

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do you agree though, that it's a waste of resources to keep Lagares?

I fully agree. Given his cost he's overpaid given the realistic best case (+ glove). Reports on his throwing have been very poor and I suspect his arm never recovered from that injury a few years ago. That being said I'm sure they have tried.

and if you believe Brodie's sentiment of the "best" 25, i think you have to cut Lagares and eat the money. There is absolutely no point to having both.

depth to cut Lagares. I havn't seen how he looks this spring, so if he looks like shit then ignore me, but we have pretty poor OF depth in AAA and our system, and really don't any have any natural CFs other than Broxton.

IMO, Lagares fills a need on our roster. Unless there's a particular player or upgrade that cutting Lagares allows us to obtain, I don't see the point in doing it and weakening our roster just to gain "financial flexibility" which who knows if the Wilpons will even use.

did not play like guys who belong on a big league roster in 2018. If either of them (barring Gomez showing a serious improvement in Syracuse) play major innings for us, we're in trouble.

Lagares is always hurt but at least offers the likelihood of being an above average reserve player.

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Optimistic. ;)

In comment 14323889 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14323845 giantsFC said: Quote: Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control? You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision. Alonso at 1st Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH? Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps.

Just sayin. It�s obvously been discussed within the clubhouse
Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window )

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In comment 14323889 DanMetroMan said: Quote: In comment 14323845 giantsFC said: Quote: Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control? You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision. Alonso at 1st Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH? Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps. Just sayin. It�s obvously been discussed within the clubhouse Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window )

Mickey has said 1b-only for Dom.

Rhame is garbage

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In comment 14325784 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14325529 giantsFC said: Quote: In comment 14323889 DanMetroMan said: Quote: In comment 14323845 giantsFC said: Quote: Are hot bats, why take a chance on their max confidence for a year of control? You send Alonso down, by the time he comes back up he may be in a slump in AAA or he won�t be used to that MLB life again. A lot of it is confidence and comfort. Thiucal mets will make writ decision. Alonso at 1st Smith in the corner OF w McNeil & backup PH? Smith also is no longer going to play OF (nor should he) and has not taken any OF reps. Just sayin. It�s obvously been discussed within the clubhouse Don smith willing to play of to make team - ( New Window ) Mickey has said 1b-only for Dom.

Callaway so far can't even figure out how to do a lineup card or knows who or what is going on w team defense decisions. Not the best source IMO. I think Keith Hernandez actually may know more lol. Why would you ever limit a player's versatility in modern times w a silly statement as that as a manager? makes zero sense.

And Giants resurfaced. Must be a coincidence...

god damn.

I'm me. Myself. And I.

Does any new person who has the capability of googling "giants message board" get treated as some former nemesis?

you all just as paranoid and creepy as lard ass grandpa in charlotte.

double for Dom

.414/.485/.586

1 perfect 3 k's for Santiago

Lowrie has begun hitting and throwing.

I personally don�t get why McNeil isn�t getting every rep possible in LF. It�s where he�s going to end up sooner than later anyway. We already know he can play 3B/2B if he has to. Why waste time with it during practice?

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Lowrie has begun hitting and throwing. I personally don�t get why McNeil isn�t getting every rep possible in LF. It�s where he�s going to end up sooner than later anyway. We already know he can play 3B/2B if he has to. Why waste time with it during practice?

At least the Mets have a good problem this spring training so many guys hitting well...versus the norm of many of the teams the past 2 decades.


And I won't even speak of the pitching bc of superstition.

Smith and Alonso are both hitting but only one can start. The other really needs to go to AAA. McNeil deserves to play after what he did last year (all of last year) but he's being jerked around a bit. Just put him in LF and leave him there until Cespedes get's back. JD Davis is hitting but is he screwed for somebody like Frazier? Yuck.

Love the depth but all these moving pieces are not exactly ideal.

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In comment 14330227 ZGiants98 said:

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Smith and Alonso are both hitting but only one can start. The other really needs to go to AAA. McNeil deserves to play after what he did last year (all of last year) but he's being jerked around a bit. Just put him in LF and leave him there until Cespedes get's back. JD Davis is hitting but is he screwed for somebody like Frazier? Yuck. Love the depth but all these moving pieces are not exactly ideal.

Davis has def earned the opening day start. Frazier can take as long as he wants. I�d prefer him as a later depth piece for an inevitable injury to be honest.

I just want to see the best bats on the roster instead of the service time crap and/or �they need ab�s� philopshy. No other sport does this.

McNeil to 3B then and start Lagares in CF temporarily then.

to open in AA, as expected and the correct move.

While on paper I would have liked him for the Mets, any thoughts on why a guy who had such a good year had to wait this long for this little? Considering so many teams need BP help every year. I guess it's been a weird offseason in general

after a real slick out on a chopper the half inning prior. Expected

Ramos with an opposite field single

Pete gets an opposite field 2-run HR robbed, wind knocked it down tho

In comment 14333101 ChaChing said:

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after a real slick out on a chopper the half inning prior. Expected Ramos with an opposite field single Pete gets an opposite field 2-run HR robbed, wind knocked it down tho

Strong wind I. From right, robbed Cano of a second earlier, but also saved Thor

Wheeler absolutely dominant today AGAIN... Crickets?

For as far as I can remember around here and at the end of the day, I think that�s a good thing.

Wheeler sat 95, worked through some things. A much more mature Wheelertoday, as much as that hurts me to say.
McNeil had many insisting he was a fluke last year,but damn is he a professional hitter.
Cano is so smooth, slick. What a huge addition on and off the field.
Alonso absolutely annihilates theball. Every. Single AB.
Davis hit one today that traveled about 50� further than it looked off the bat prototypical rising golf ball today.
Worried Hech May somehow make this roster. No way he makes it till the All star break. Outstanding in the field, but his swing makes Ordonez look like he was a slugger.
Familia looks thicker. Was 93/94 again today.
Miss having Gimenez at ML camp. This is going to be the oddest comp you will ever hear on him. It makes no sense but every time I see him, it�s the first name that comes to mind. And I can�t explain it lol. Tino Martinez...
Lots of excitement coming from those backfields lately.

Aside from wheels, McNeil 3-4, Alonso 2-4

Wilson gave up a triple & double in succession, but settled in and only gave up that 1 run bot 7th. All other pitchers went for 0

Next half inning McNeil gets a single, Lagares bunts him over, JD Davis with a ground rule double scoring McNeil. Nice way to generate a run late game. The rest of the inning fills the bases so the good ABs continue, but Nido can't produce anything more

Of everyone I�ve seen this spring, aside from the studs. The one guy I�ve seen who would be the perfect fit for the amets is Harrison Bader. Far from a star, you can�t have 25 stars. But this kid would flat out be the PERFECT fit on this team!!!

Just to stir up the masses around here and wake everyone up lol

In comment 14339078 Shecky said:

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Just to stir up the masses around here and wake everyone up lol

Well is there? :p

4 HRs, 7 hits in 2 innings. 8-0. There's a little help from the wind but man

Damn you Shecky.

5ip, 6k, 2r vs the yankees today. just retired voit, andujar and sanchez in order.

Did he piss ownership off that much that we just gave up on him?

Shecky how has Matz otherwise looked this year?

As a team you really can't continue with that can you?

Obviously don�t build your team around him but it�s an asset that you control. Why not take advantage of it warts and all.

In comment 14340683 bhill410 said:

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Obviously don�t build your team around him but it�s an asset that you control. Why not take advantage of it warts and all.

Would have required them to release someone else since he had to be added to the 40 man roster.

I have no idea about control and all that especially in baseball

But he's playing after coming back from what was a lifetime ban. I assume next time it won't be a 'fake' one. So ala Will Hill for example, how many chances should he get after burning the team?

Not arguing with you just opining