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Former Patriots’ OT Trent Brown intends to sign a four-year, $66 million contract that includes $36.75 million guaranteed with the Oakland Raiders, per source, making him highest paid OL in NFL history.
Bwahahahahah. Eat your heart out, Solder!
Still overdrafted Miller.
Exactly, there is a reason each year they get multiple comp picks.
Someone needs to break up that franchise.
Trey Flowers is about to become highly paid by someone other than the Patriots. Will the Pats be in the market for Preston Smith or Za'darius Smith to replace him? Unlikely. They'll leave those mistakes to other teams.
Trey Flowers is about to become highly paid by someone other than the Patriots. Will the Pats be in the market for Preston Smith or Za'darius Smith to replace him? Unlikely. They'll leave those mistakes to other teams.
Agreed. Excellent analysis. That is a winning formula.
Someone needs to break up that franchise.
Or get rid of comp picks.
And this is your answer. I would NEVER pay for a Pats FA OL as long as this guy is alive and coaching...
Not even - easiest way is to play for Belichick. You think a guy like Danny Amendola was banking coin if he played for anyone else?
His approach only works if you draft well. His brilliance is that he's willing to let players go when they are still productive.
Spot on. They aren't necessarily better at drafting either, they just give themselves more darts. They also leverage their draft capital to fill in holes via trades while still maintaining the balance sheet in the comp pick game.
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protect the blindside of the quickest release in football history.
Not even - easiest way is to play for Belichick. You think a guy like Danny Amendola was banking coin if he played for anyone else?
Agree with you, but he's actually not the best example, Amendola made more for the Pats than anywhere else (so far) (he signed 5 years 28.5M with 10M guaranteed in NE) - one of the few FA acquisitions they make.
He's just really good at what he does and he controls every aspect of that organization from scouting, the draft, coaching, game-planning, play calling, etc. he knows the ins and outs of every role.
It's easier to approach the team this way when the QB isn't the guy you have this issue with... and the QB is in place year after year without anyone questioning why you'd keep him because, well... it's Tom Brady.
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to take the emotion out of their personnel decisions. There's no hand-wringing about whether to keep a guy, make a deal or let him walk. It it's good for the team, they pull the trigger. This works great when you're getting to the super bowl every year... if you're not, your a heartless jerk.
It's easier to approach the team this way when the QB isn't the guy you have this issue with... and the QB is in place year after year without anyone questioning why you'd keep him because, well... it's Tom Brady.
True but, if BB were coach here he would have made that dispassionate choice about the QB.
Patriots draft results not much better than any other team, in fact they had a really rough stretch.
In the meantime, the Patriots already have Trent Brown's replacement on the roster. Isaiah Wynn, there 1st rd pick from 2018, will be competing for the LT position.
So it's really not that complicated or brilliant by the Patriots, its just common sense....
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to take the emotion out of their personnel decisions. There's no hand-wringing about whether to keep a guy, make a deal or let him walk. It it's good for the team, they pull the trigger. This works great when you're getting to the super bowl every year... if you're not, your a heartless jerk.
It's easier to approach the team this way when the QB isn't the guy you have this issue with... and the QB is in place year after year without anyone questioning why you'd keep him because, well... it's Tom Brady.
True but, if BB were coach here he would have made that dispassionate choice about the QB.
Or would the team around Eli never have crumbled so badly that the discussion about pulling the plug on him wouldn't have been the same as it's been these last few years... ?
More than one way to view it.
In the meantime, the Patriots already have Trent Brown's replacement on the roster. Isaiah Wynn, there 1st rd pick from 2018, will be competing for the LT position.
So it's really not that complicated or brilliant by the Patriots, its just common sense....
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LOL.. the signature.
I'm reading Ian O'Connor's book on Belichick. Highly recommend it. You really see how how long Belichick has been studying the game and just this vast wealth of knowledge he has. Growing up around his father Steve, a football coach and scout, created an incredible baseline on how to build a team and culture.
In the meantime, the Patriots already have Trent Brown's replacement on the roster. Isaiah Wynn, there 1st rd pick from 2018, will be competing for the LT position.
So it's really not that complicated or brilliant by the Patriots, its just common sense....
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They are very, very high on Wynn. Apparently he was terrific in camp.
Trey Flowers is about to become highly paid by someone other than the Patriots. Will the Pats be in the market for Preston Smith or Za'darius Smith to replace him? Unlikely. They'll leave those mistakes to other teams.
I agree with you. But, and it's a big but, you have to have success initially in order to turn those players into comp picks. People have to want your players and pay them big bucks.
We're not in the same position. What players do we have who are going to generate decent deals in FA this offseason? Collins, and........no one else.
So let's get to become a successful team first, and maybe then we can follow the Pats' model.
Shopping hungry last year and overpaying for a LT and not waiting for the draft to play out was such a mistake.
There is no reason the Giants couldn't have made the exact move the Pats did.
The Giants would have owned the rights to Brown and could have offered him this contract today.
When folks say "what other choice did the Giants have at left tackle" -- this one, that's what.
The Patriots, the team in a championship window, presumably with more urgency to win, took the patient path. And yet some how the rebuilding Giants *had* to do something.
Two teams literally faced with the same decision, and the Giants chose the older player at what amounted to the same cost.
I still think you oversimplify it. They have the best QB over the last 15+ years, and BB happens to be the best coach as well, even regardless of how he handles his cap.
That matters. Most teams can't copy this formula because they don't have even 1 of the 2 (Brady/BB) in their respective organizations.
He gets into that point a little more, but that's the gist of it.
If Belichick is right about that, why would you pay any but the very exceptional players exceptional money?
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Every player's career can be boiled down to some type of curve depicting performance relative to cost and age. Belichick understands that curve and how to incorporate it into his team better than anyone in the NFL, and he laps the field in this area.
It really begs the question, why can't other teams duplicate it? You don't have unique access to any data points, so why aren't NFL franchises able to simply carbon copy the economics of what the Pats are doing?
I think the answer is pretty simple. We will know for sure when BB is gone from coaching that team.
What's going on in New England requires complete buy in from ownership on down. No one has that anywhere in the league. Not to that level.
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At the SB this year, Brady said Scarnecchia is the greatest position coach he's ever seen and should be a lock for the HoF...
He is by definition a wizard, magic wand not required. Like the 80s movie
It's apt. Apt!
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has to be the best position coach in the NFL.
you think he could have fixed Flowers?
Trey Flowers is about to become highly paid by someone other than the Patriots. Will the Pats be in the market for Preston Smith or Za'darius Smith to replace him? Unlikely. They'll leave those mistakes to other teams.
This whole pats thing starts and ends with belichick and his amazing and consistent coaching philosophy. You can try to emulate the pats model. Underpay everyone or try to underpay everyone. Offer your star Qb less than market value. Let everyone walk as a FA. See how far it takes you. Teams have tried and they have failed.
It’s belichick.
Smart. Wizard. Whatever. He’s the best team leader in nfl history. No one does a better job of game planning and no one has earned the clout he’s earned. His system not only works, it’s fool proof. He doesn’t have to worry about job security. Doesn’t have to win in 2 years or else. Has a QB in place that isn’t only great, is the best company man QB in nfl history.
You aren’t emulating the pats. Forget it.
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He isn't. He's just really smart. He's identified the inefficiencies that are exploitable, and he's exploiting them.
Smart. Wizard. Whatever. He’s the best team leader in nfl history. No one does a better job of game planning and no one has earned the clout he’s earned. His system not only works, it’s fool proof. He doesn’t have to worry about job security. Doesn’t have to win in 2 years or else. Has a QB in place that isn’t only great, is the best company man QB in nfl history.
You aren’t emulating the pats. Forget it.
Look, it's a thing of beauty how Belichick manages personnel, the cap, and that team culture.
The best thing that could happen to Belichick to really cement his greatness - and I know that sounds weird - is to win a SB without Brady. Because let's face it, Brady's ability to adapt to the never ending changes in offensive personnel and game plans is out of this world. He's a football chameleon. You really can't quantify what an absolute luxury he is to Belichick. And to top it off, he's cap conscious superstar.