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Ourlads' QB Ball Velocity at NFL Combine 2008-2019...

M.S. : 3/12/2019 6:38 am
… according to the site:

"Ourlads’ Guide to the NFL Draft is the only source that gives the number for the quarterback’s velocity at the NFL Combine. Velocity is measured by a radar gun in miles per hour."

Interesting look across the years, including the most recently concluded Combine.

I don't know what to make of this, but according to the chart, Dwayne Haskins exhibited the same velocity as Kyle Lauletta!



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RE: RE: There's probably...  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/12/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14327117 .McL. said:
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In comment 14327111 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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more irony in calling people "Haskins lovers" or really hyperbole like that regarding any player.


Ok, what would you call the group of posters that really really want to draft Haskins at #6?

I will be happy to refer to that group as that...


How about ABES?

Anybody But Eli Supporters?
I'm not..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/12/2019 4:12 pm : link
sure they have to be referred to as anything.

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Ok, what would you call the group of posters that really really want to draft Haskins at #6?

I will be happy to refer to that group as that...


Do you want to be defined derisively for a preference on whom to draft?

It isn't like you have a mass of people ready to set themselves on fire of we don't pick a certain guy
RE: RE: RE: There's probably...  
.McL. : 3/12/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14327131 BlueLou'sBack said:
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In comment 14327117 .McL. said:


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In comment 14327111 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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more irony in calling people "Haskins lovers" or really hyperbole like that regarding any player.


Ok, what would you call the group of posters that really really want to draft Haskins at #6?

I will be happy to refer to that group as that...



How about ABES?

Anybody But Eli Supporters?


LOL, that's probably true, I like that...
RE: I'm not..  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/12/2019 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14327135 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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sure they have to be referred to as anything.



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Ok, what would you call the group of posters that really really want to draft Haskins at #6?

I will be happy to refer to that group as that...



Do you want to be defined derisively for a preference on whom to draft?

It isn't like you have a mass of people ready to set themselves on fire of we don't pick a certain guy


I thought about it when JR bypassed Aaron Donald...

But I can't stand the smell of burning human hair.
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arcarsenal : 3/12/2019 4:15 pm : link
Even better - I don't think a single poster even mentioned DH or would even qualify as someone who was a major proponent of drafting him at the point where that comment was made.

Someone just has an agenda and is desperate to tag a swath of posters with a very unimaginative tag because, well... it's so funny! Derp.
RE: I'm not..  
.McL. : 3/12/2019 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14327135 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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sure they have to be referred to as anything.



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Ok, what would you call the group of posters that really really want to draft Haskins at #6?

I will be happy to refer to that group as that...



Do you want to be defined derisively for a preference on whom to draft?

It isn't like you have a mass of people ready to set themselves on fire of we don't pick a certain guy

Talk about hyperbole... Set themselves on fire?

You don't think there is a mass of people who WILL melt down if we don't draft a QB, and that most of those who will melt down are pointing to Haskins at this point.
McL  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/12/2019 4:19 pm : link
just walk away on this one. It's a bad look.
Ourlads blows dog and has for a long time...  
Torrag : 3/12/2019 4:40 pm : link
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What I find kinda funny...  
Johnny5 : 3/12/2019 5:12 pm : link
... people were killing the Lauletta pick all day long for lack of arm strength. Actually people still kill Lauletta all day long for lack of arm strength. And then it turns out he throws with the same velocity as Haskins.... lol
RE: What I find kinda funny...  
arcarsenal : 3/12/2019 5:19 pm : link
In comment 14327313 Johnny5 said:
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... people were killing the Lauletta pick all day long for lack of arm strength. Actually people still kill Lauletta all day long for lack of arm strength. And then it turns out he throws with the same velocity as Haskins.... lol


I get your overall point - but I don't think this is really a great measure of actual NFL arm strength.

I can't recall anyone saying that Mitch Trubisky or DeShaun Watson's arms looked "weak" at any point in their early careers and I don't even remember that being a knock on either guy coming out of UNC or CLEM.

With Lauletta, you can see it - the ball floats. He doesn't drive it the same way.

It's one of those measures that just doesn't really jibe with what you see on the field, so it seems the correlation is just super loose and not really there.
RE: RE: What I find kinda funny...  
Johnny5 : 3/12/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14327327 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14327313 Johnny5 said:


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... people were killing the Lauletta pick all day long for lack of arm strength. Actually people still kill Lauletta all day long for lack of arm strength. And then it turns out he throws with the same velocity as Haskins.... lol



I get your overall point - but I don't think this is really a great measure of actual NFL arm strength.

I can't recall anyone saying that Mitch Trubisky or DeShaun Watson's arms looked "weak" at any point in their early careers and I don't even remember that being a knock on either guy coming out of UNC or CLEM.

With Lauletta, you can see it - the ball floats. He doesn't drive it the same way.

It's one of those measures that just doesn't really jibe with what you see on the field, so it seems the correlation is just super loose and not really there.

I agree. Lauletta's long ball looks like a helium balloon. That's what makes it funny.
What that data tells us...  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/12/2019 5:29 pm : link
is that the radar gun analysis in football where the QB has essentially limitless launch spots to even more unlimited landing targets...

is useless.

Vs its use in baseball where the pitchers throw from +/- the same spot on the mound to the same general area in space at the plate, repeatedly.

Those velocities cited only randomly coincide with scouts (an our own) repeated observations about relative arm strength.

Lock has a gun - everyone sees it and has reported it - but he throws the same velocity as Lauletta who was widely criticized as lacking arm strength?


Uh huh?

Radar gun measurements as reported mean pooh.
RE: What I find kinda funny...  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/12/2019 5:31 pm : link
In comment 14327313 Johnny5 said:
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... people were killing the Lauletta pick all day long for lack of arm strength. Actually people still kill Lauletta all day long for lack of arm strength. And then it turns out he throws with the same velocity as Haskins.... lol


It's also not definitive. Watch lauletta throw a strong ball, and he has to put a lot of effort into it. I'm not a haskins fan, but he looks very natural when he needs to make long or sharp throws.
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