take it for what it's worth, but she was just on ESPN New York saying from team sources she has heard, QB is not in play for them this year, and they'll continue to bolster the defense through the draft, especially DL, with emphasis on OL as well if the value is there.
No clue if she is credible, but interesting to say the least
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What have they shown interest in @ 6?
I also have no idea what their plan is at QB.
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It is like Uncle Joe after Thanksgiving dinner.. Gotta loosen the belt some..
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Its like Aditi's evil twin!!!
Do you take 2 edge rushers and totally re-make the defense and finally give it an identity? Do you take one edge guy and draft the best RT in the draft? Do you take a QB to develop and an edge guy? Do you take a RT and a QB to sure up the offensive side of the football and re-build the defense next year when Eli is off the books?
That would make this draft really interesting from a NYG fan perspective!
With man-pants to boot. Pass.
Ton of holes on this defense right now.
The pieces will be in place by next year.
It sucks to kick the "next qb" can down the road but it also might be the right thing to do. Don't want to pick the next Blaine Gabbert just because Eli's old.
Table was set last year with the Giants telegraphing Barkley.
With all that said, I don't want Haskins or any QB this year as of right now. I want to build the D and Oline.
If the Giants pick #2 (from SF) and #6 they will have a chance to reshape the entire organization moving forward.
It would also make this year's draft the most interesting in Giants history (maybe).
(I posted this on the wrong thread earlier -sorry)
Do the Giants take 2 edge rushers and re-define the defense and give it an identity? Do they take a QB and a RT and get the offense set for the next 5 years and fix the defense next year when Eli is off the books? Do they take an edge and RT? A edge and a QB?
It would certainly make this draft very interesting.
Agreed.
But I'm not sure they'll trade for Sloter. I think that would have already happened if they wanted him.
This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
You're right JonC... I over think everything..
The worst thing that you can do is overdraft based upon need.
If the Giants do not believe that any of the QBs are worthy of the 6th pick and there are potentially great players in another area of need, you take the best player available.
Hypothetically, how would it look if the Giants drafted Q.William, Sweat, White, or Allen and that player becomes a perennial pro bowler vs. drafting a good but not great QB.
In addition it is clear that the Giants believe that the rebuild is a multi year process. It does not matter if you select the QB this year or next year. There are so many holes to fill. A defensive player is an extreme area of need.
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I guess Eli is coming back in 2020 then.
My opinion, too. Finally put some meat into that defense. And replace the remaining weaknesses at OL. No matter whos QB, these are necessary.
This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
It's one thing to not draft Haskins or Murray because you don't believe in them as players. It is quite another to hear that, generally speaking, taking a quarterback is not in the Giants plans this offseason. The former is defensible. The latter is not. It seems to me that the organization's thought process is still very badly flawed, even if you end up at the same place as them because you don't believe specifically in Haskins or Murray.
With Tua, Fromm, Herbert, and Eason coming out next year most likely - theres 4 options plus usually theres 1-2 that come out of nowhere. We will survive, its ok.
Ton of holes on this defense right now.
The pieces will be in place by next year.
Who cares about the Giant's holes, I'm more interested in her's.
Who's looking at her hands. :)
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Is right, there just isn't a qb worth a top 10 pick in the draft this year. All mock drafts are need based, and not value based. As many have been saying all along, this is a weak qb class.
This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
It's one thing to not draft Haskins or Murray because you don't believe in them as players. It is quite another to hear that, generally speaking, taking a quarterback is not in the Giants plans this offseason. The former is defensible. The latter is not. It seems to me that the organization's thought process is still very badly flawed, even if you end up at the same place as them because you don't believe specifically in Haskins or Murray.
You cant stop stupid. If this organization passes on another chance to draft a potential franchise QB, its stupid. Yes, I know. The Giants dont believe they are franchise guys. I just assume they know more than all the other teams that do. Gettleman is not the smartest guy out there, and he is going to leave this team in QB hell for a long time.
Itll be great to talk about how good the 2020 QBs are - as we watch them get selected before we draft. I hope all of you enjoy thats. What are all of you going to say next year? Too bad we cant get one? Wait til 2021? 2022? When exactly do we pull the trigger on a new QB? Are we eventually shelling out $83 million guaranteed to a guy like Cousins? People here will love that.
For you people who advocate wait til next year, just remember these conversations.
Franchise guy is a 1st rd guy.
KC Model.
I've been with Kelly, Elway, Eli and Newton, pretty good huh?
Makes sense he'd pass on Darnold, didn't think he was in that class. Does he think Haskins in that class? Unknown but doubtful.
Will look to add a dynamic DL player with #6.
I think they may restructure Eli to add one year so he can mentor the 2020 guy.
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What about that KC model? Also what happens if we go 7-9 next year and draft 14th?
With Tua, Fromm, Herbert, and Eason coming out next year most likely - theres 4 options plus usually theres 1-2 that come out of nowhere. We will survive, its ok.
I agree and like the idea of drafting a QB who has more than one year of starting experience in college before turning pro.
It's one thing to not draft Haskins or Murray because you don't believe in them as players. It is quite another to hear that, generally speaking, taking a quarterback is not in the Giants plans this offseason. The former is defensible. The latter is not. It seems to me that the organization's thought process is still very badly flawed, even if you end up at the same place as them because you don't believe specifically in Haskins or Murray. [/quote]
Good post. QB at #6 is not the only option. I would have a problem with Eli/Tanney/Lauletta at QB next year. The performance at the position does not warrant complacency. There are other options beyond trying to find the next John Elway, especially if you truly are embracing a rebuild. Then there are plenty of better options.
Do you take 2 edge rushers and totally re-make the defense and finally give it an identity? Do you take one edge guy and draft the best RT in the draft? Do you take a QB to develop and an edge guy? Do you take a RT and a QB to sure up the offensive side of the football and re-build the defense next year when Eli is off the books?
That would make this draft really interesting from a NYG fan perspective!
you take Bosa at #2 and trade #6 for 3 first and second day picks.
Cool.
Cool.
I dont know how the Giants are going to be able to keep anyone from scoring less than 30 points all year
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make for a very interesting spot for the Giants to be in come draft time in April...
Do you take 2 edge rushers and totally re-make the defense and finally give it an identity? Do you take one edge guy and draft the best RT in the draft? Do you take a QB to develop and an edge guy? Do you take a RT and a QB to sure up the offensive side of the football and re-build the defense next year when Eli is off the books?
That would make this draft really interesting from a NYG fan perspective!
you take Bosa at #2 and trade #6 for 3 first and second day picks.
Sounds awesome, right? Look, if they dont believe Haskins is the guy, they cant take him. I get that. If the cost is too high to move up, they cant do that either. But Im starting to believe this front office has lost touch with reality. At some point you have to move on from Eli. They will kick themselves if these guys become franchise QBs and they passed up the chance to get them.
I don't think we're in win-now, we're in rebuild. Letting Eli play out the string while solidifying the rest of the roster. Draft a franchise QB next year and have some pieces already in place. Just my opinion.
This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
I keep reading here about loading up for next years quarterback class. Legitimate question; How do they do that?
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Is right, there just isn't a qb worth a top 10 pick in the draft this year. All mock drafts are need based, and not value based. As many have been saying all along, this is a weak qb class.
This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
I keep reading here about loading up for next years quarterback class. Legitimate question; How do they do that?
Those teams at the top of the draft will be singing Bomb for Beckham. There will be some team not needing a QB that would love to have OBJ. We get our needs taken care of and they get OBJ.
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I don't think we're in win-now, we're in rebuild. Letting Eli play out the string while solidifying the rest of the roster. Draft a franchise QB next year and have some pieces already in place. Just my opinion.
I keep reading this. So were guaranteed a top 3 selection? Well have our pick of the QBs? How exactly do you know - or can you guarantee - that we will be in a position to get one of those QBs? I mean, everyone talks about it like its a sure thing that if we wait, were guaranteed one of those guys. I want to know how that works. Can someone please tell me? I need enlightenment, because if we win 6 or 7 games next year, and pick in the 15-17 range, it may be impossible to move up. What if the teams at the top of the draft need QBs and dont want to trade? Is it that difficult to envision a scenario where the Raiders, Dolphins, Redskins, Bengals, or Broncos - 3 of them anyway - control the top 3 picks - and refuse to give them up? This team lacked a franchise QB for decades until we got Eli. But somehow you think were just getting one because we want one next year? Please stop it.
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Yeah, I don't understand exactly what they're doing other than to provide entertaining, high-scoring games. I do know one thing: the offense better perform given the resources they've invested on that side.
Whos happy about it? If he doesnt want that either, he should walk away. Hes not dumb. He has to see whats going on here. He must know he has no shot at a winning team next year.
People who say this is good news and the right call. Again, have at it.
1) ER - Biggest Weakness on team , whomever they have ranked highest between Sweat, Burns and the Ferrell.
2) Otherwise if you have an OT rated at a higher grade clearly above these players take the OT.
3) Same comment for 2) but LB but only if one is higher then the ER or OT
If they consider Burns or Sweat a scheme fit I like that at 6.
Now obviously it doesn't guarantee we go Qb at 6 especially if the value isn't there. But I think Qb is still very much in play if Haskins is there (with Lock a darkhorse).
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Thumbs? Passable.
I'd hate to pass on Finley if he's there is the second round. There is a lot there to like...
I just can't help but feel that Fromm and Tua are going 1 and 2 next year. I know it's crazy to think that so early but that's what I keep thinking. They will have plenty of cap space but you can't really buy draft picks. Not directly anyway.
In truth, I see the Giants now taking LB D. White at #6. Safe pick, versatile, fits today's NFL and is likely a game 1 starter. Pick #2 goes to OL if there is value there.
As for Eli, he finishes this contract with an 7 - 9 record, giver or take a game, and retires. Now, we have to hope QB Lauletta can step up into the starter's role in 2020 as he'll be cheap and this will be DG's and Shurmurs roster in full.
Holy swing and a miss.
No problem with it really given all that DL talent and White, but I hate the FO leaking this.
Screws any chance for a trade back.
Doesn't say we won't grab a "bargain" QB like Stidhamm in the later rounds though. Or even Jones at 37, G-d forbid. Just no QB at 6, right?
That said I don't want to hear the BS that there's no Top 10 QB worth the pick etc. There is and are. Haskins is going to be a very good NFL QB...maybe even better than that. He'll be better than guys like Foles and Flacco. Will he have a career as good as Eli and Ben? Probably depending on the organization he joins.
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