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Dianna Russini: Giants will not draft Haskins, no QB at 6

ryanmkeane : 3/12/2019 9:13 am
take it for what it's worth, but she was just on ESPN New York saying from team sources she has heard, QB is not in play for them this year, and they'll continue to bolster the defense through the draft, especially DL, with emphasis on OL as well if the value is there.

No clue if she is credible, but interesting to say the least
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Who?  
jeff57 : 3/12/2019 9:14 am : link
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RE: Who?  
ryanmkeane : 3/12/2019 9:15 am : link
In comment 14325825 jeff57 said:
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NFL reporter for ESPN
Sounds like good  
TMS : 3/12/2019 9:16 am : link
news to me.
Shes  
jtgiants : 3/12/2019 9:16 am : link
Right
She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/12/2019 9:17 am : link
hosts NFL countdown and NFL live.
I think there is  
Big Rick in FL : 3/12/2019 9:18 am : link
A very strong possibility they don't draft a QB, but why would anybody from the Giants leak that info? It serves absolutely no purpose. If you don't want the guy then you let teams think you do so someone moves ahead of you for him.
Music to my ears  
The_Boss : 3/12/2019 9:18 am : link
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So...  
madeinstars : 3/12/2019 9:18 am : link
What about that KC model? Also what happens if we go 7-9 next year and draft 14th?
The only...  
Strip-Sack : 3/12/2019 9:18 am : link
interest in Haskins I've seen is from fans on BBI and the incessant mock drafts that exist on the internet....so far, there has been zero credible intel coming from the team that shows interest in a QB at #6.
RE: She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/12/2019 9:18 am : link
In comment 14325833 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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hosts NFL countdown and NFL live.


Can't make out her thumbs...

RE: The only...  
arcarsenal : 3/12/2019 9:19 am : link
In comment 14325842 Strip-Sack said:
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interest in Haskins I've seen is from fans on BBI and the incessant mock drafts that exist on the internet....so far, there has been zero credible intel coming from the team that shows interest in a QB at #6.


What have they shown interest in @ 6?
I fully  
Jon in NYC : 3/12/2019 9:19 am : link
believe that this is what they're going to do.

I also have no idea what their plan is at QB.
RE: RE: She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
The_Boss : 3/12/2019 9:23 am : link
In comment 14325844 Eric from BBI said:
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hosts NFL countdown and NFL live.



Can't make out her thumbs...



I like how she holds the microphone.
Sloppy belt  
dep026 : 3/12/2019 9:25 am : link
action...
RE: RE: She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
jeff57 : 3/12/2019 9:25 am : link
In comment 14325844 Eric from BBI said:
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hosts NFL countdown and NFL live.



Can't make out her thumbs...



Ay Caramba!
and, whats with that belt  
Dave : 3/12/2019 9:25 am : link
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Wowza.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/12/2019 9:26 am : link
Gets my blood boiling.
RE: Sloppy belt  
crick n NC : 3/12/2019 9:26 am : link
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Sloppy belt...pass
I still  
Jon in NYC : 3/12/2019 9:28 am : link
want them to trade for Kyle Sloter.
RE: RE: She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
Beer Man : 3/12/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14325844 Eric from BBI said:
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Can't make out her thumbs...

LOL
RE: RE: Sloppy belt  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2019 9:29 am : link
In comment 14325877 crick n NC said:
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Sloppy belt...pass


It is like Uncle Joe after Thanksgiving dinner.. Gotta loosen the belt some..
the Giants have to go this way  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/12/2019 9:32 am : link
imo
RE: RE: She's certainly a legitimate media person. Former Redskins beat writer  
ron mexico : 3/12/2019 9:32 am : link
In comment 14325844 Eric from BBI said:
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hosts NFL countdown and NFL live.



Can't make out her thumbs...



Its like Aditi's evil twin!!!
I hope she is right  
ZogZerg : 3/12/2019 9:34 am : link
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picking at #2 and #6 would  
Dnew15 : 3/12/2019 9:42 am : link
make for a very interesting spot for the Giants to be in come draft time in April...
Do you take 2 edge rushers and totally re-make the defense and finally give it an identity? Do you take one edge guy and draft the best RT in the draft? Do you take a QB to develop and an edge guy? Do you take a RT and a QB to sure up the offensive side of the football and re-build the defense next year when Eli is off the books?
That would make this draft really interesting from a NYG fan perspective!
of courese I'm combining thoughts  
Dnew15 : 3/12/2019 9:43 am : link
with other thread where the Giants were trading OBJ to for the #2 pick from SF...sorry
RE: Sloppy belt  
Diver_Down : 3/12/2019 9:44 am : link
In comment 14325869 dep026 said:
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With man-pants to boot. Pass.
Doesn't surprise me one bit and I'm fine with it if thats what they  
Brown Recluse : 3/12/2019 9:49 am : link
choose to do.

Ton of holes on this defense right now.

The pieces will be in place by next year.
If they don't like this year's qbs, then that's what they should do  
Heisenberg : 3/12/2019 9:53 am : link
Personally, I love Haskins but what the hell do I know?

It sucks to kick the "next qb" can down the road but it also might be the right thing to do. Don't want to pick the next Blaine Gabbert just because Eli's old.
Isn't that what you want leaked out?  
Tom from LI : 3/12/2019 9:54 am : link
if a QB is your target. Pay Eli his bonus. to make teams think next year's draft QB is your target. Resign Tanney (who can still be cut at the end of training camp.) make it look like that QB is not in the cards.

Table was set last year with the Giants telegraphing Barkley.

With all that said, I don't want Haskins or any QB this year as of right now. I want to build the D and Oline.
I think she's correct  
JonC : 3/12/2019 9:55 am : link
and she's plenty hot.
Giants are virtual zeroes  
JonC : 3/12/2019 9:56 am : link
at masking intent, leaking misdirection, etc.
I hated this idea at the beginning...  
Dnew15 : 3/12/2019 9:56 am : link
BUT - I'm starting to come around to it.
If the Giants pick #2 (from SF) and #6 they will have a chance to reshape the entire organization moving forward.

It would also make this year's draft the most interesting in Giants history (maybe).

(I posted this on the wrong thread earlier -sorry)
Do the Giants take 2 edge rushers and re-define the defense and give it an identity? Do they take a QB and a RT and get the offense set for the next 5 years and fix the defense next year when Eli is off the books? Do they take an edge and RT? A edge and a QB?

It would certainly make this draft very interesting.
RE: the Giants have to go this way  
AcidTest : 3/12/2019 9:57 am : link
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Agreed.

But I'm not sure they'll trade for Sloter. I think that would have already happened if they wanted him.
I Hope Dianna  
lax counsel : 3/12/2019 9:58 am : link
Is right, there just isn't a qb worth a top 10 pick in the draft this year. All mock drafts are need based, and not value based. As many have been saying all along, this is a weak qb class.

This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).
If that's the case  
AcesUp : 3/12/2019 10:04 am : link
I would expect an extension for Eli. They'll want him under contract heading into next offseason, the Giants want him as a bridge, that much I'm sure of.
RE: Giants are virtual zeroes  
Tom from LI : 3/12/2019 10:05 am : link
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at masking intent, leaking misdirection, etc.


You're right JonC... I over think everything..
Good news  
montanagiant : 3/12/2019 10:08 am : link
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Haskins etal  
Archer : 3/12/2019 10:08 am : link
I respect the Giants decision.
The worst thing that you can do is overdraft based upon need.

If the Giants do not believe that any of the QBs are worthy of the 6th pick and there are potentially great players in another area of need, you take the best player available.

Hypothetically, how would it look if the Giants drafted Q.William, Sweat, White, or Allen and that player becomes a perennial pro bowler vs. drafting a good but not great QB.

In addition it is clear that the Giants believe that the rebuild is a multi year process. It does not matter if you select the QB this year or next year. There are so many holes to fill. A defensive player is an extreme area of need.
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montanagiant : 3/12/2019 10:09 am : link
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Sloppy belt...pass

I would have no problem fixing that belt for her
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GFAN52 : 3/12/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14325838 madeinstars said:
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What about that KC model? Also what happens if we go 7-9 next year and draft 14th?


I guess Eli is coming back in 2020 then.
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exiled : 3/12/2019 10:13 am : link
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My opinion, too. Finally put some meat into that defense. And replace the remaining weaknesses at OL. No matter who’s QB, these are necessary.
so back to Dianna...  
antdog24 : 3/12/2019 10:13 am : link
a nice Italian girl from brooklyn...

RE: I Hope Dianna  
eugibs : 3/12/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14325984 lax counsel said:
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Is right, there just isn't a qb worth a top 10 pick in the draft this year. All mock drafts are need based, and not value based. As many have been saying all along, this is a weak qb class.

This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).


It's one thing to not draft Haskins or Murray because you don't believe in them as players. It is quite another to hear that, generally speaking, taking a quarterback is not in the Giants plans this offseason. The former is defensible. The latter is not. It seems to me that the organization's thought process is still very badly flawed, even if you end up at the same place as them because you don't believe specifically in Haskins or Murray.
RE: So...  
dep026 : 3/12/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14325838 madeinstars said:
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What about that KC model? Also what happens if we go 7-9 next year and draft 14th?


With Tua, Fromm, Herbert, and Eason coming out next year most likely - theres 4 options plus usually theres 1-2 that come out of nowhere. We will survive, its ok.
RE: Doesn't surprise me one bit and I'm fine with it if thats what they  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/12/2019 10:19 am : link
In comment 14325949 Brown Recluse said:
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choose to do.

Ton of holes on this defense right now.

The pieces will be in place by next year.

Who cares about the Giant's holes, I'm more interested in her's.
That 2nd pic is even worse.  
Diver_Down : 3/12/2019 10:20 am : link
Old-woman hands with hooves in heels.
RE: That 2nd pic is even worse.  
GFAN52 : 3/12/2019 10:22 am : link
In comment 14326086 Diver_Down said:
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Old-woman hands with hooves in heels.


Who's looking at her hands. :)
RE: RE: I Hope Dianna  
Giants38 : 3/12/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14326074 eugibs said:
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Is right, there just isn't a qb worth a top 10 pick in the draft this year. All mock drafts are need based, and not value based. As many have been saying all along, this is a weak qb class.

This is the year to build up the trenches, next year is the year to load up to get the qb you want. With the way the qb landscape may play out, a guy like Haskins may fall to the middle or back end of the first round (not suggesting it will happen, but it could be a possibility).



It's one thing to not draft Haskins or Murray because you don't believe in them as players. It is quite another to hear that, generally speaking, taking a quarterback is not in the Giants plans this offseason. The former is defensible. The latter is not. It seems to me that the organization's thought process is still very badly flawed, even if you end up at the same place as them because you don't believe specifically in Haskins or Murray.


You can’t stop stupid. If this organization passes on another chance to draft a potential franchise QB, it’s stupid. Yes, I know. The Giants don’t believe they are franchise guys. I just assume they know more than all the other teams that do. Gettleman is not the smartest guy out there, and he is going to leave this team in QB hell for a long time.

It’ll be great to talk about how good the 2020 QBs are - as we watch them get selected before we draft. I hope all of you enjoy that’s. What are all of you going to say next year? Too bad we can’t get one? Wait til 2021? 2022? When exactly do we pull the trigger on a new QB? Are we eventually shelling out $83 million guaranteed to a guy like Cousins? People here will love that.

For you people who advocate wait til next year, just remember these conversations.
Gut feeling is that's correct.  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/12/2019 10:25 am : link
So far DG has told the truth and I think he's given us hints.

Franchise guy is a 1st rd guy.

KC Model.

I've been with Kelly, Elway, Eli and Newton, pretty good huh?

Makes sense he'd pass on Darnold, didn't think he was in that class. Does he think Haskins in that class? Unknown but doubtful.

Will look to add a dynamic DL player with #6.

I think they may restructure Eli to add one year so he can mentor the 2020 guy.
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