My scenario:
Arizona has traded Rosen (say to the Redskins for next year's first rounder)
The Raiders have traded Carr (or they keep him for one year with the rookie QB playing behind him)
Gettleman has tried to trade up, but the cost is too high (teams start by demanding next year's first rounder)
1 - Arizona takes Murray
2 - SF takes Bosa (or Q Williams or J Allen)
3 - Jets (or trading partner) take Q Williams (or Bosa or Allen)
4 - Raiders take Haskins
5 - Tampa Bay takes J Allen
Gettleman looks to trade down, but again only gets offers for the 6th overall pick that amount to "a bag of donuts, a hot pretzel and a hot dog"
You're in Gettleman's shoes, who do you pick? Likely from among:
OL
Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma
Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
DL/LB
Clelin Ferrell, EDGE, Clemson
Rashan Gary, EDGE, Michigan
Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State
Devin White, LB, LSU
If they're convinced J Williams can eventually be the left tackle or center, do the Giants pick him and put him at RT (or center) in 2019?
Sweat would be a JPP like pick. White or Ferrell seem to be safer picks.
Who do you pick?
taylor / ford > williams
burns > gary / ferril
Oliver
Sweat
Gary
In that order is my suggestion.
Oliver
Sweat
Gary
In that order is my suggestion.
I am up in the air about Oliver. As silly as it was, that outburst last year is something I see teh Giants staying away from.
Christian Wilkins and Devin White stand out to me as the 2 safest players on that list and both are "giants" types of players, but in the perfect world an edge rusher always carries more value.
Reminds me of the Flowers and Eli Apple drafts.
Reminds me of the Flowers and Eli Apple drafts.
Worst case? I think it’s best case.
Really would like a guy that can cover the little, fast pass catching RB's, has tremendous sideline to sideline range and cover that place that seems to be the sole focus of NFL offenses and a place that we've had a hole in what seems to be forever - the middle of the field
Good player, but extended stay in QB hell remains the case.
I'd pick Gary.
What Grit said
It is what our defense needs. He won't come off the field.
Sweat is my fallback.
Please not Gary.
taylor / ford > williams
burns > gary / ferril
You make it sound so easy to trade back. What if the only offer to trade is to move back to say 20 and only get a 4th? do you do it?
Quote:
Oliver
Sweat
Gary
In that order is my suggestion.
I am up in the air about Oliver. As silly as it was, that outburst last year is something I see the Giants staying away from.
Oliver would be without a position with the Giants. He is not a 5 and certainly not a nose tackle in a 3-4. He isn't an OLB candidate so now a shift to thumper ILB would be in play. No to Oliver.
Do NOT discount a Top Corner.
A smart pick what positional does Gary play in 3-4?
I’d respectfully disagree if you think it’s to play nose tackle in 3-4
A smart pick what positional does Gary play in 3-4?
I’d respectfully disagree if you think it’s to play nose tackle in 3-4
Jay, again, historically teams running a 3-4 tend to put the money at edge. Some have put the money at NT, when they've had a dominant one worth it. They typically don't spend it at end. If Oliver is their guy, he's probably playing NT. 3-4 DEs are mostly blocker eaters. Read up.
Gary can play OLB as the elephant. When healthy, he explodes off the screen. If they want a player who will play more in space, then RG probably isn't that guy.
make too much sense then say Gary should be pick.
Oliver would be a 3-4 DE.
This