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Looks like Jets and Packers

moaltch : 3/12/2019 10:26 am
are competing to win March. Will that have an impact on who wins in January? Never has.
When the Giants drafted Eli  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/12/2019 10:27 am : link
they signed Plax, Pierce and Kmac.

It can work if done right.
The Raiders and Lions  
jvm52106 : 3/12/2019 10:28 am : link
have been pretty damn active.
There's gonna be a lot of denial about the Jets  
bceagle05 : 3/12/2019 10:29 am : link
among Giants fans. They're using the same playbook we used in 2004-2005, which is what we should've done these past two years. They have an excellent team coming together.
and  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/12/2019 10:32 am : link
Browns...

Browns are no longer going to be the doormat
RE: There's gonna be a lot of denial about the Jets  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/12/2019 10:33 am : link
In comment 14326119 bceagle05 said:
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among Giants fans. They're using the same playbook we used in 2004-2005, which is what we should've done these past two years. They have an excellent team coming together.


Let's calm down.
Macagnan spending for his job  
AcesUp : 3/12/2019 10:36 am : link
One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.
RE: There's gonna be a lot of denial about the Jets  
The_Boss : 3/12/2019 10:37 am : link
In comment 14326119 bceagle05 said:
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among Giants fans. They're using the same playbook we used in 2004-2005, which is what we should've done these past two years. They have an excellent team coming together.


They still need help along the OL. Theyre in the mix for Bell. I can still see them taking Allen at 3. Theyre clearly the 2nd best team in that division. And, I hate to say this, but today theyre probably a better team than the NYG.
RE: There's gonna be a lot of denial about the Jets  
christian : 3/12/2019 10:40 am : link
In comment 14326119 bceagle05 said:
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among Giants fans. They're using the same playbook we used in 2004-2005, which is what we should've done these past two years. They have an excellent team coming together.


Very good observation.

Frankly takes a lot of spinning to get to a place of criticism of a team with a young talented QB, a number of young good players, and nearly 200M in cap room to spend over the next 2 years.
they still have  
Dankbeerman : 3/12/2019 10:41 am : link
mo impact player on the dline, or at any skill position on offense.
Jets had close to $100mm in cap space  
Oscar : 3/12/2019 10:41 am : link
They were always going to spend a ton. You dont get anything for saving that money.
I'm not trying to be fanofthejets here  
bceagle05 : 3/12/2019 10:42 am : link
but they're doing what they should be doing - stocking up while Darnold's on a cheap contract. Their defensive core is Adams, Williams, Barr, Mosely and a stud DL with the #3 pick. Still work to do on offense, but Crowder's a solid piece and we'll see if they land Bell. They still have New England to deal with, and the Chiefs and Browns are good young teams in the AFC, but the Jets are definitely on the uptick.
Who  
Toth029 : 3/12/2019 10:48 am : link
Is playing CB for the Jets?
Jets had to spend for sure  
AcesUp : 3/12/2019 10:49 am : link
But they don't have use every dollar of that 100m in the first wave of free agency. We're not even 2 days into FA and they've gone top of the market 3-4 spots while being in on the top guys in another two positions. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you just grab the top guy at every position of need on the open market. There will be role player vets on the market after the initial feeding frenzy, there will be guys to target next year, the space can be rolled over.

I think they're running the risk of screwing up their window by not exercising a little bit of patience. Some of these deals will bite them.
RE: Who  
JayBinQueens : 3/12/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14326203 Toth029 said:
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Is playing CB for the Jets?

Trumaine Johnson at 1CB, 2CB & slot
RE: Macagnan spending for his job  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/12/2019 11:03 am : link
In comment 14326152 AcesUp said:
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One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.

Yes, love the fact they are scrambling to build a team around what Joe Beningo said is their messianic saviour Sam Darnold. Really going to cripple that team for a decade.
Jealousy  
gmenatlarge : 3/12/2019 12:01 pm : link
is an ugly thing...
I disagree  
Rover : 3/12/2019 12:38 pm : link
Have the Jets improved a lot?
No.
I see a 6-8 win team. Big deal.
...  
Burt64 : 3/12/2019 12:46 pm : link
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Plot twist! LB Anthony Barr has decided to agree to terms to remain with the #Vikings, sources say. He will not be a member of the #Jets after all.
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crick n NC : 3/12/2019 12:46 pm : link
In comment 14326583 Burt64 said:
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Plot twist! LB Anthony Barr has decided to agree to terms to remain with the #Vikings, sources say. He will not be a member of the #Jets after all.


LOL
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crick n NC : 3/12/2019 12:47 pm : link
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Plot twist! LB Anthony Barr has decided to agree to terms to remain with the #Vikings, sources say. He will not be a member of the #Jets after all.


Jetsfan - "ahh he sucked anyhow"
.  
arcarsenal : 3/12/2019 12:51 pm : link
Well, it looks like Bob was right...

Good call.
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PatersonPlank : 3/12/2019 12:55 pm : link
In comment 14326590 crick n NC said:
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Plot twist! LB Anthony Barr has decided to agree to terms to remain with the #Vikings, sources say. He will not be a member of the #Jets after all.



Jetsfan - "ahh he sucked anyhow"


Came to his senses.
RE: RE: Macagnan spending for his job  
HomerJones45 : 3/12/2019 12:56 pm : link
In comment 14326270 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.


Yes, love the fact they are scrambling to build a team around what Joe Beningo said is their messianic saviour Sam Darnold. Really going to cripple that team for a decade.
What a crock. The cap has been no impediment to any team with reasonable talent recognition and acquisition skills. Once the team is built, which is what the Jets are in the process of doing, it is just maintenance to keep the talent pipeline going. Just because Reese sucked at it doesn't mean everyone does.
When Darnold bombs out and becomes Blake Bortles,  
PatersonPlank : 3/12/2019 12:58 pm : link
the Jets will go from picking 3rd to picking 1st
RE: RE: RE: Macagnan spending for his job  
Deejboy : 3/12/2019 1:25 pm : link
In comment 14326618 HomerJones45 said:
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One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.


Yes, love the fact they are scrambling to build a team around what Joe Beningo said is their messianic saviour Sam Darnold. Really going to cripple that team for a decade.

What a crock. The cap has been no impediment to any team with reasonable talent recognition and acquisition skills. Once the team is built, which is what the Jets are in the process of doing, it is just maintenance to keep the talent pipeline going. Just because Reese sucked at it doesn't mean everyone does.

So Macagnan is good at it? No. He is spending money cause he is in the hot seat and if he doesn't throw money at players the next GM will. So it makes no sense for him to to be responsible with their cap. If these players don't play well for their big money he is going to get fired anyway so he might as well spend.
Geez, I compliment the Jets for the first time in 30 years  
bceagle05 : 3/12/2019 1:32 pm : link
and Anthony Barr delivers a classic LOLJets moment within minutes. Lesson learned.
RE: Jealousy  
Default : 3/12/2019 1:33 pm : link
In comment 14326488 gmenatlarge said:
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is an ugly thing...

Seriously...
RE: RE: RE: RE: Macagnan spending for his job  
Bernie : 3/12/2019 2:04 pm : link
In comment 14326696 Deejboy said:
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One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.


Yes, love the fact they are scrambling to build a team around what Joe Beningo said is their messianic saviour Sam Darnold. Really going to cripple that team for a decade.

What a crock. The cap has been no impediment to any team with reasonable talent recognition and acquisition skills. Once the team is built, which is what the Jets are in the process of doing, it is just maintenance to keep the talent pipeline going. Just because Reese sucked at it doesn't mean everyone does.


So Macagnan is good at it? No. He is spending money cause he is in the hot seat and if he doesn't throw money at players the next GM will. So it makes no sense for him to to be responsible with their cap. If these players don't play well for their big money he is going to get fired anyway so he might as well spend.



Actually, there is a requirement that over a 4 yr span, a team has to spend on average, 89% of their salary cap. I believe the current window runs from 2017 thru 2020. Furthermore, the entire league has to spend 95% of the cap during the same period. I don't know what this calculation looks like for the Jets, but they basically do not have a choice but to spend.
RE: RE: Macagnan spending for his job  
fanofthejets : 3/12/2019 2:44 pm : link
In comment 14326270 Coach Red Beaulieu said:
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One reason why it's stupid to fire a coach and not a GM. Now Mac is spending like crazy to save his job and clogging their cap for when Darnold is ready. Packers at least recognize Rodgers fading window and making one last push. It makes sense for them.


Yes, love the fact they are scrambling to build a team around what Joe Beningo said is their messianic saviour Sam Darnold. Really going to cripple that team for a decade.


If you have a franchise QB you build the team around him. They're doing nothing out of the ordinary. They have the space (have had it for over a year) and are active in free agency in 2019 as they said they would all along.

The entire NFL runs through the QB position. And when you whiff on your franchise QB you end up with a future like the current Giants. None
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