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Giants sign S Antoine Bethea

Anakim : 3/12/2019 3:16 pm
2-year deal, per Reggie Wayne
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Bethea  
stretch234 : 3/12/2019 6:52 pm : link
Spend the dollars to get an effective pass rush and everything behind them gets better
stretch  
bc4life : 3/12/2019 7:06 pm : link
spend and draft
While this move reminds me of the Jonathan Stewart signing,  
smshmth8690 : 3/12/2019 7:07 pm : link
it ain't the same thing. Stewart was brought in to help in the locker room, it looks like Bethea is coming to start. Maybe a draft pick changes that, but it will be with his help. Besides Bethea is the age now that Andrew Whitworth was when he wasn't brought here, and many here were willing to overlook his age.
I find it interesting that his stats  
USAF NYG Fan : 3/12/2019 7:17 pm : link
last year are better than Landon Collins.

-Neither had an interception
-Both had 1 Forced Fumble
-Bethea had 3 sacks, Collins had 0
-Bethea had 100 solo tackles and 21 assists to Collins 67 solo tackles and 29 assists. Honestly, I would expect the SS to be higher in this category.
-Both had 5 tackles for loss
-Bethea had 6 QB hits and Collings had 2 QB hits
-Collins missed 4 games so that skews the stats a little
-All of Collins stats have declined since his 2016 year
-Outside of interceptions, Bethea had his best year last year
-Bethea was listed as a FS last year but has played both FS and SS throughout his career. Collins has been predominantly listed as a SS.

I get that he's older but, depending on the cost, I think it's a great pickup. He's a placeholder for now but a pretty good placeholder. A veteran on what will be a young defense that can still play.
at the least  
bc4life : 3/12/2019 7:17 pm : link
he can QB the secondary. and better than any free safety we've had in a while. wonder if buchanan will be part of package deal?
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came into the league  
bc4life : 3/12/2019 7:26 pm : link
with pretty good speed so his aging might not be that bad. he was a 4.39 guy when drafted. if he's 4.6 or so now, w/experience and football IQ - could work for year or two.

and he gets the collision aspect of football.
bottom line  
bc4life : 3/12/2019 7:27 pm : link
we had nothing close to a starter on the team prior to this signing. and he knows Bettcher's system
At least we can field a team now  
Rjanyg : 3/12/2019 7:50 pm : link
He can play Free Safety with Michael Thomas at SS.
Beal, Jenkins and Haley at CB. We are not done adding players.

How much better is a back 2  
Matt M. : 3/12/2019 8:59 pm : link
of a 34 year old Bethea and Peppers? Bethea seems to still be able to play, but at his age that is no guarantee.
RE: How much better is a back 2  
Big_Pete : 3/12/2019 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14328475 Matt M. said:
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of a 34 year old Bethea and Peppers? Bethea seems to still be able to play, but at his age that is no guarantee.

In coverage terms, we have a huge upgrade at the back end of our defence.
That's nice...  
Anakim : 3/12/2019 11:48 pm : link
We still need a FS. Peppers moves in as the SS, Bethea should be the #3 S ala Deon Grant, and now, we need a playmaking FS.
Matt M  
bc4life : 3/13/2019 12:08 am : link
Night and day, difference. Clearly upgraded the secondary. Most important, you have a player on the field who can QB the secondary. Haven't had that in a while.
He so old  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:28 am : link
He wasn’t called out as a troll when he signed up for BBI
One additional tidbit I didn't see posted here  
ChaChing : 3/13/2019 1:11 am : link
tho USAF's post above mentioned some of the same stats:

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But where Bethea really beats out other safeties is when he’s called upon to blitz or rush the passer. PFF had him leading all league safeties with a 17.9 pass-rush productivity rating, which included 12 pressures, six hurries, three hits, three sacks on 42 pass-rush snaps

Obviously it's not everything especially when age is a factor, but this was re: 2018 so that's added value given our pass rush issues

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