Marc Ross talking again-

I attribute the fall of the giants draft classes to his stacking the board and Reese's building from the outside in mentality.

This is as close as he will ever get to another NFL team so I don't begrudge him making a few bucks. It certainly won't help him get back in the league. Media is a good fit for him.

why are people asking his opinion? He was not good at his job.

He was fired for a reason. Let it go already.

that this guy talks about bad decisions. He was apart and responsible for a TON over the years...


that being said....




what hes saying.....


isn't wrong.

ducks head.

Is using his talents in an appropriate manner as a WalMart greeter or janitor somewhere.

and now has the audacity to sit there and criticize the people left to clean up his mess. I hope other organizations are paying attention and don't hire this clown. And based on his record, I'm glad they didn't pick Darnold, because if he wanted him then he must be garbage.

In comment 14327207 DavidinBMNY said:

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I attribute the fall of the giants draft classes to his stacking the board and Reese's building from the outside in mentality. This is as close as he will ever get to another NFL team so I don't begrudge him making a few bucks. It certainly won't help him get back in the league. Media is a good fit for him.

Yup - plenty of evidence the Giants drafts went from good to shit the day Reese turned it over to Ross.

Took Gettleman all of 10 minutes to fire him on his first day.

All he�s good for now is providing some mediocre reporter with clickbait copy like this.

...that's all we need to know about his opinion.

Why didn�t he recommend to trade up for Mahoney or draft somebody else?w

Thats why is no longer working here.

I love how chumps who get canned for poor production criticize the organization immediately after they get fired....really adds to their credibility. Maybe wait 4 ot 5 years to do that so that you have something to criticize.

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Why didn�t he recommend to trade up for Mahoney or draft somebody else?w

Mahomes

In comment 14327227 jpetuch said:

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Why didn�t he recommend to trade up for Mahoney or draft somebody else?w

Mahoney was only successful in Police Academy. His career hasn't been great since then.

It's that Marc Ross was a disaster

"Basketball on grass" is what got us into this mess, as others have alluded to.

and Reese's draft went sharply downhill after round 1 because Reese was less involved in the later rounds after his hire.

However, as a former insider of the front office he knows how the Giants brain trust thinks and operates.

If he says pass rusher at 6 , that carries some weight to me.

I would be very surprised if it wasn't either Qb or ER.

This pick is screaming Montez Sweat to me. They have been low key on Sweat for a while now from various reports Ive seen here and there the past few months.

Parlay his "inside knowledge" to cr*p on his former employers while absconding himself of any and all responsibility... Doesn't exactly bode well for a long and prosperous media career

'Nuff said about his talent evaluations... He was a smug cock on that NFL Network spot... SMH

Ex #Giants VP of Player Personnel Marc Ross on NFL Network: "I think (Giants) might've missed their opportunity last year with Sam Darnold at No. 2." Ross said he thinks #Giants will go pass rusher at No. 6 and "bank it all in" on Eli Manning for another year.
Twitter - ( New Window )

For letting Landon Collins walk...

He has his Super Bowl in large part because of Eli. Nice gratitude. He also will have the distinction for a very long time of being a major contributor to a dark period in Giants history that they are still working out of.

Lazy

Not banking it all on Eli. That's picking the best player in the draft.

You know. Something him and Jerry couldn't fucking do.

but...


... I think he's right here. Sorry, Barkley is great, but Darnold was the better pick...

8 wins in 2 years isn�t the KC model. The KC model would have been trading for Mahomes in 2017 off a winning year which is what KC did.

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but... ... I think he's right here. Sorry, Barkley is great, but Darnold was the better pick...

This team still sucks with Sam.

Guess what else. His logic is not picking the QB since he feels Eli has dropped off so much. Why didn't he pick one in 2016 or 2017?

I'd rather listen to the opinions of the guy that drives the team bus than this putz. Yeah we drafted Barkley and he says we should have drafted Darnold but we know if Laurel and Hardy were still in charge of the draft, we would have taken some college center on the basketball team to play safety. He should just STFU and GTFO.

Is dogshit, his drafts in Buffalo were AWFUL and his drafts here were even worse.

and it wasn't Fireman Ed or Bro Benigno

just interesting that there are more headlines being created out of the team that runs on loyalty.

In comment 14327209 The Dude said:

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that this guy talks about bad decisions. He was apart and responsible for a TON over the years... that being said.... what hes saying..... isn't wrong. ducks head.

Actually you have no idea if he�s right or wrong. No one does. Too early.

Mayfield looked the best by far. And he wasn�t availaible. Darnold threw way too many pics. Saying he�s �franchise� guy is BS. Rosen got decimated anf the jury is out on him and Allen. Lamar Jackson. Yeah. They drafted Barkley As runner. He�s Not a QB.

Mark Ross should is easily one of tube worst FO people ever. Get back to be in a few years then we can see. Way to early. Also . He�s a asshole who deserves a blanket party at best. Right or wrong

I think the concept of the KC model is ridiculous. Mahomes isn't as good as he is because he sat behind Alex Smith for a year. If anything the Chiefs were held back in 2017 because they didn't just go with Mahomes from the start. And is there a compelling reason to believe that Mahomes wouldn't have enjoyed an MVP level 2018 because he started as a rookie in 2017?

If the Giants draft a QB high to sit behind Eli for a year it's a waste of a year of a key resource.

that he would have taken Darnold over Barkley and that's a confirmation of why he was fired.

Carl Banks
@CarlBanksGIII
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Be Clear, I am a supporter of Eli, and i know he won't play forever and transition must happen.. But I'll be Damn if I'm gonna let this guy who was responsible for building competent players around him take a sh#t on him! Kick Rocks Ross!

Needed to be said. Thank you Carl!

why he and Reese survived as long as they did. I will maintain that.

Everything else was dogshit. Did we have any guy, besides OBJ and I'm sure one or two other players, when he was here who stayed beyond his/their rookie deal? Not Wilson, not Pugh, not Flowers, not Hankins, not Linval, not Randle, not Damontre Moore...

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why he and Reese survived as long as they did. I will maintain that. Everything else was dogshit. Did we have any guy, besides OBJ and I'm sure one or two other players, when he was here who stayed beyond his/their rookie deal? Not Wilson, not Pugh, not Flowers, not Hankins, not Linval, not Randle, not Damontre Moore...

*is

In comment 14327336 DanMetroMan said:

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Carl Banks @CarlBanksGIII � 10m Be Clear, I am a supporter of Eli, and i know he won't play forever and transition must happen.. But I'll be Damn if I'm gonna let this guy who was responsible for building competent players around him take a sh#t on him! Kick Rocks Ross!

Outstanding. Good on you Carl. And admirably restraint, in fact, he could have been a lot harsher in his comments about Ross

In comment 14327319 Go Terps said:

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I think the concept of the KC model is ridiculous. Mahomes isn't as good as he is because he sat behind Alex Smith for a year. If anything the Chiefs were held back in 2017 because they didn't just go with Mahomes from the start. And is there a compelling reason to believe that Mahomes wouldn't have enjoyed an MVP level 2018 because he started as a rookie in 2017? If the Giants draft a QB high to sit behind Eli for a year it's a waste of a year of a key resource.

Agreed. Mahomes probably has some more bumps in 2017 than 2018, but the Chiefs would have been a more dangerous team in 2017 with him instead of Alex Smith.

Rookie QB's being better off sitting is a myth. Some will benefit, sure. It's not for everyone though.

And Tom Quim is Gollum.

In comment 14327318 LauderdaleMatty said:

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In comment 14327209 The Dude said: Quote: that this guy talks about bad decisions. He was apart and responsible for a TON over the years... that being said.... what hes saying..... isn't wrong. ducks head. Actually you have no idea if he�s right or wrong. No one does. Too early. Mayfield looked the best by far. And he wasn�t availaible. Darnold threw way too many pics. Saying he�s �franchise� guy is BS. Rosen got decimated anf the jury is out on him and Allen. Lamar Jackson. Yeah. They drafted Barkley As runner. He�s Not a QB. Mark Ross should is easily one of tube worst FO people ever. Get back to be in a few years then we can see. Way to early. Also . He�s a asshole who deserves a blanket party at best. Right or wrong

"Actually" (oscar from the office), My point is its no secret that the Saquon pick spoke to how the FO felt about our chances to compete right now. You can say they didn't like the QBs all you like but they took Saquon thinking he could be a final piece for a SB contender in this Eli era. It's not too early to say that there was a miscalculation of the roster. Maybe Saquon was higher on the board as a player but if you hold a RB and QB in the same ballpark and you have an aging QB and no playoff wins in 7 years...you take a QB. All picks are calculated risk. Our risk of not nailing down our future QB went up that day.. And guess what, thats not to say we won't right the ship but as an analytic guy, our risk went up..if you argue that idk what to tell you. And i say that as a huge Saquon fan. And also,I would absolutely love another SB in this Eli era. Of course the jury is still out on all these guys. Lets not pretend that the '18 class wasn't seen as good, its not like the giants and every other team passed..they all went round 1.

anyway, my first point was Marc Ross is an idiot.

secondly, even though hes an idiot...he feels that the giants dont love a QB this year and will select and edge rusher. He said they missed a chance at a franchise guy last year. It doesn't make you less of a fan thinking that they may have missed the boat on a QB. an 8-8 year next year could slot us picking 19th.
Stay with me here. the year is 2020, the giants are picking 19th and picking too far to grab a QB. A few years before , they were picking 2 with a solid QB class that came out. Of course no one has an idea whose right or wrong, but play the probability game. Our chances of being in QB hell went up. You need to think ahead when making decisions, and giving opinions on decisions. thats what Marc did. that moron.

Its all about the position of the team going forward. 80% of the discussion on internet forums could not take place if you had to wait 15 years to see "who is right or wrong"

They just opted not to pay him...

❤ Carl

is the guy who shows up at your house, throws everything out of your fridge on to the floor, breaks a window, and takes a shit in your sink. He leaves and then comes back in and says "what the hell happened here, what slobs fucked this place up?"

than a pack of wet firecrackers."

-- Carl Banks

But he's not wrong

In comment 14327360 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 14327319 Go Terps said: Quote: I think the concept of the KC model is ridiculous. Mahomes isn't as good as he is because he sat behind Alex Smith for a year. If anything the Chiefs were held back in 2017 because they didn't just go with Mahomes from the start. And is there a compelling reason to believe that Mahomes wouldn't have enjoyed an MVP level 2018 because he started as a rookie in 2017? If the Giants draft a QB high to sit behind Eli for a year it's a waste of a year of a key resource. Agreed. Mahomes probably has some more bumps in 2017 than 2018, but the Chiefs would have been a more dangerous team in 2017 with him instead of Alex Smith. Rookie QB's being better off sitting is a myth. Some will benefit, sure. It's not for everyone though.

If a veteran QB will mentor the rookie; if the veteran is still a good player; and, the team has the potential to win than you start the veteran and let the rookie watch & learn. When you are say 4 - 6 and the schedule is a little easier, well, maybe you insert the rookie and get him real game experience.

I thought we made a mistake not playing Lauletta more late last year. Even 50 more attempts spread over the final 3 games or so would have been nice.

If I were Marc Ross, I wouldn't even dare to criticize the team right now after how he fucked the organization up.

Lauletta should have started every game after 1-7. The playoffs weren't going to happen, and they had the bye at that point. One of a series of mistakes made by the front office and coaching staff in 2018.

Marc Ross is the biggest POS. How could John Mara ever hire this lazy jerk in the first place? And Evan Silva has a weird vendetta against Eli and Giants fans. It�s quite bizarre now.

still cling to the "all in" mantra.

It is beyond bizarre at this point.

Ripped on Ross last year when he criticized the team. I�m summarizing here but he said that Ross has no right to criticize after using top 10 picks on Apple and Flowers and leaving this team in the poor situation that it was in. Gettleman has done a far better job over the past year than Ross did over his entire tenure.

Marc Ross is the main reason for the state of this franchise.

at Mara/Tisch for sticking with Reese/Ross for as long as they did. At least Jerry had the good sense to go away quietly.

Marc Ross... Did he see Saquon Barkley last year? Especially compared to every other rookie?!? I believe also, that with the way Barkley studies the game, he will only continue to get better. The jury is still out on Darnold.

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In comment 14327227 jpetuch said: Quote: Why didn�t he recommend to trade up for Mahoney or draft somebody else?w Lol. Idiot probably would have traded up to get Mahoney and not Mahomes Mahoney was only successful in Police Academy. His career hasn't been great since then.

viability

2 time SB champion GM, with the Giant organization from 1994-2017 & not 1 negative word about the franchise from him.

In comment 14327413 Eric from BBI said:

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If I were Marc Ross, I wouldn't even dare to criticize the team right now after how he fucked the organization up.

Seriously. Sometimes you need to keep your head down. Or you can start by laughing at yourself and saying "Well, I made a mess there, but I have some thoughts on how to clean it up..."

This process should�ve started last year. Get a young QB to pair with Odell, shep and engram. We�d be in year two already.