were true? Plus there is the observation that JonC and others put forth that he might never recover that burst. I would not be surprised if there is a conditional 2020 pick based on performance that we haven't heard about yet.
I can see it now. The Giants trade their 17th pick to move up to get Haskins. That would be a real kick in the balls. Not getting anything for the trade.
God if it’s that this makes it even more nauseating. I had that thought too.
I suggest you sit back and wait for the why. If something happened the past few months and it turns out Beckham was going to pull a Brown, then he got ahead of it and got what he could.
I don’t like the return, but if shit went sour fast, when can you possibly expect?
step in the right direction, been waiting on a culture and step to get out of the bottom of the division and start winning. Gettleman had to make this move. Sitting at the bottom of the NFC East is NOT a good look to ownership.
I wonder if the Giants should just tear this all down. There is no franchise QB out there this year. If anything, next year is the year to find your QB. I really hope they aren't loading up to trade up for a Haskins.
never wanted him traded, but certainly wanted more than what we got. This is awful. I like Peppers, but at least another #2 was required, and even then I would have likely said no. Beckham is a generational talent on his second contract. Draft picks bust all the time.
I couldn't agree more.
What are the cap ramifications of this bullshit? Â
I wonder if the Giants should just tear this all down. There is no franchise QB out there this year. If anything, next year is the year to find your QB. I really hope they aren't loading up to trade up for a Haskins.
step in the right direction, been waiting on a culture and step to get out of the bottom of the division and start winning. Gettleman had to make this move. Sitting at the bottom of the NFC East is NOT a good look to ownership.
Shut the fuck up you know nothing wannabe.
RE: Regarding the dead money, it should hurt this year, but we'll have Â
I can see it now. The Giants trade their 17th pick to move up to get Haskins. That would be a real kick in the balls. Not getting anything for the trade.
If you thought the Giants were getting a big haul for a guy that's played 16 games in two years and has the richest contract at the position, that's on you.
This is an absolute disgrace. I think he should be fired for this trade alone (even without many of his other questionable decisions). I am at a loss.
Don't forget about the cap/dead money hit people.
if it was a 1,2 and Peppers (who hasn't scratched the surface yet), then I could MAYBE buy this. But this is a package that they could get at ANY time. I'm betting OBJ told Gettleman he wants out NOW or he will be a horror show all next year. DGs response was fine, you're out of here. Bad job by Gettleman.
Holy crap! This is just an awful deal and about the only silver lining I can see is that Beckham can't pull an Antonio Brown and screw the franchise. Beyond that, I don't see one single redeeming thing from this trade.
If you sign a person to a free market (non-restricted by rookie rights, etc.) contract, his trade value is zero. This is because in theory all other teams could have offered him $1 more and won his services.
Once you trade him, they still have to pay him, despite formerly deciding he was not worth the price.
This is why stars that are signed on the open free agency market are often traded for low round picks.
Odell just signed a massive extension which made him the highest paid WR in the league. It's true this wasn't a true open market deal, as it was an extension, but seeing as it is the #1 salary in the NFL for his position, it's fair to say that his salary was commensurate with the market rate for his talent. This is why you don't get excess value for trading him.
this isn't exactly right.
- you only get to sign a player to one of these contracts (extension) if you already control them. there was not some other unrestricted WR of equal talent and production available to sign. if so, they could get more.
- the team taking over the contract is getting him at a discount (cap-wise).
so there is value. the amount is to be negotiated. i think this is a bad trade, since draft picks bust all the time. ugh.
On top of this the cap hit is fucking insane. Gettleman can go fuck himself.
God if it’s that this makes it even more nauseating. I had that thought too.
OBJ is not replaceable.
I don’t like the return, but if shit went sour fast, when can you possibly expect?
HORRIBLE fucking return.
Terps still cleaning jizz off his laptop
step in the right direction, been waiting on a culture and step to get out of the bottom of the division and start winning. Gettleman had to make this move. Sitting at the bottom of the NFC East is NOT a good look to ownership.
Not getting two #1's or a 1,2 and Peppers is terrible.
Good news is that he's unpredictable.
Bad news, was hoping for a bigger haul for OBJ.
Poor Saquon is really Barry Sanders now
I couldn't agree more.
Pretty sure that is what they are doing
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Guess we gotta draft a 1st round WR??
OBJ is not replaceable.
Of course he isnt.
But now we have no #1 WR.
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No reason to even keep Eli now.
step in the right direction, been waiting on a culture and step to get out of the bottom of the division and start winning. Gettleman had to make this move. Sitting at the bottom of the NFC East is NOT a good look to ownership.
Shut the fuck up you know nothing wannabe.
And all they need to do is fix a bottom-10 roster.
Nobody here thinks that Mara just got tired of the BS from Beckham? you really think this is all on DG?
This is obviously going to happen, LOL
Welcome to the real world.
Don't forget about the cap/dead money hit people.
This also makes Barkley less effective.
Once you trade him, they still have to pay him, despite formerly deciding he was not worth the price.
This is why stars that are signed on the open free agency market are often traded for low round picks.
Odell just signed a massive extension which made him the highest paid WR in the league. It's true this wasn't a true open market deal, as it was an extension, but seeing as it is the #1 salary in the NFL for his position, it's fair to say that his salary was commensurate with the market rate for his talent. This is why you don't get excess value for trading him.
this isn't exactly right.
- you only get to sign a player to one of these contracts (extension) if you already control them. there was not some other unrestricted WR of equal talent and production available to sign. if so, they could get more.
- the team taking over the contract is getting him at a discount (cap-wise).
so there is value. the amount is to be negotiated. i think this is a bad trade, since draft picks bust all the time. ugh.