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jvm52106 : 3/12/2019 9:31 pm
basically said things really started to shift after the interview with Little Wayne.. Then at trading deadline teams called Gmen about OBJ and TISCH said no. He loved OBJ. As the season wore on and OBJ was not around the last 4 weeks Tisch moved to the side of Mara and DG that OBJ had to go.

Basically said Giants would have traded him last offs eason but PS wanted to keep him. Talked to him and felt they were on the same page but things changed as the season started.
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Meant Saquon and Engram  
Emil : 3/12/2019 11:09 pm : link
Sorry
Barkley and his 3 year shelf life posts  
UConn4523 : 3/12/2019 11:09 pm : link
are ones I can’t take seriously. We didn’t pick him to just play on his rookie deal. He’s in our future plans. The NFL still revolves around TOP, and giving your defense rest. He’s also not just a running back.

I’m not going to bother with any more than that. If you want to trade him, go ahead and pound your keyboard I guess. If you’re wrong, you win anyway.
Just not enough back  
5BowlsSoon : 3/12/2019 11:13 pm : link
I can live with trading OBJ seeing he didn’t want to be here and I don’t want another ABrown, but why couldn’t we have gotten a 1,2, and Peppers.

I’m also surprised we had to take their second third round pick. Talk about playing hardball and we bit.

I know Pitt traded Brown for only a 3 rd and 5th pick but I think that was much different. Don’t you?
RE: Barkley and his 3 year shelf life posts  
Emil : 3/12/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14329914 UConn4523 said:
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are ones I can’t take seriously. We didn’t pick him to just play on his rookie deal. He’s in our future plans. The NFL still revolves around TOP, and giving your defense rest. He’s also not just a running back.

I’m not going to bother with any more than that. If you want to trade him, go ahead and pound your keyboard I guess. If you’re wrong, you win anyway.


It’s like no one watched the Super Bowl champs this year...
RE: RE: No, Mook is right, it's just that people don't want to see the obvious  
jcn56 : 3/12/2019 11:17 pm : link
In comment 14329889 JPinstripes said:
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This team has been horribly mismanaged for quite some time, and as elements of stability walked out (Coughlin, Reese), it just fell off a cliff.

Barkley should go - they're not going to put together anything resembling a team in enough time to make any use of his talents. Recoup now, before you end up in a stupid situation like the Beckham one, where you end up eating a huge cap hit for the same return you could have had before you extended him.



I really hope you are tongue in cheek on this post, otherwise it may be the stupidest post I have ever seen on this board.


You thought this was a good trade - trust me, you're knee deep in stupid thoughts and shouldn't be looking elsewhere for them.
It is way more than 3 players  
Chip : 3/12/2019 11:17 pm : link
It is also the players that come from 20 mil in cap space savings. You trade away a 20 mil a year player and sign another one plus the draft picks and Peppers.
RE: and PS  
Sonic Youth : 3/12/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14329584 mittenedman said:
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Beckham didn't give a F#ck about the Giants.

Remember that simple fact when you are crying about losing him. Not a true Giant.
This is an archaic mindset. so outdated and out of touch with the current times and reality in general.
RE: It is way more than 3 players  
Sonic Youth : 3/12/2019 11:19 pm : link
In comment 14329981 Chip said:
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It is also the players that come from 20 mil in cap space savings. You trade away a 20 mil a year player and sign another one plus the draft picks and Peppers.
You want cap savings? Eli should have been cut then.
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jcn56 : 3/12/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14329822 djm said:
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fuck all of them. this guy should have garnered a bigger return, i dont even see how that is arguable




Dude, don’t you think the giants would have gotten a bigger return of it was available? Just stop.


The rumors at the time of his extension were for roughly the same in return - and that was before the Giants took the risk of extending him post injury, and without the enormous cap hit they're going to eat now.

So there's every reason to believe the Giants were hosed.

Just another in a long line of stupid decisions dating back to 2012, which have been accelerating in the past couple of years.
RE: and PS  
giantsFC : 3/12/2019 11:20 pm : link
In comment 14329584 mittenedman said:
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Beckham didn't give a F#ck about the Giants.

Remember that simple fact when you are crying about losing him. Not a true Giant.

this is a very underrated point I forget about. He really could have cared less about the team. But then again, most diva stars are like that these days. And sometimes I can't blame them...see Steve Smith in Carolina.
The owners are morons and that was seen clearly during the  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/12/2019 11:20 pm : link
Eli/McAdoo debacle. Experienced people make a situation better... they don't allow an interview with Lil Wayne to dictate the direction of their franchise.
RE: RE: RE: No, Mook is right, it's just that people don't want to see the obvious  
JPinstripes : 3/12/2019 11:22 pm : link
In comment 14329977 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14329818 jcn56 said:


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This team has been horribly mismanaged for quite some time, and as elements of stability walked out (Coughlin, Reese), it just fell off a cliff.

Barkley should go - they're not going to put together anything resembling a team in enough time to make any use of his talents. Recoup now, before you end up in a stupid situation like the Beckham one, where you end up eating a huge cap hit for the same return you could have had before you extended him.



I really hope you are tongue in cheek on this post, otherwise it may be the stupidest post I have ever seen on this board.



You thought this was a good trade - trust me, you're knee deep in stupid thoughts and shouldn't be looking elsewhere for them.


No - your suggestion of NYG trading Barkley now based on the OBJ outcome is the dumbest post I have ever seen on this board.
RE: Name one New York Giant player  
OBJ_AllDay : 3/12/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14329528 WillieYoung said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't. The locker room won't recover any time soon. Play your ass off. Play great. But if you express yourself at all, you're gone. Maybe Tuffy Lehmans is available. After 62 years, I'm a Brown's fan.


Good post. I hope saquon is paying attention to how premier players are treated by mgmt on the NYG
RE: Name one New York Giant player  
santacruzom : 3/12/2019 11:24 pm : link
In comment 14329528 WillieYoung said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't.


Fine, but is it an accomplishment when a bad team lauds you?
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Sonic Youth : 3/12/2019 11:27 pm : link
In comment 14330042 santacruzom said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't.



Fine, but is it an accomplishment when a bad team lauds you?


The point is this "not a team player" meme is bullshit.
RE: RE: RE: Name one New York Giant player  
jestersdead : 3/12/2019 11:32 pm : link
In comment 14330057 Sonic Youth said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't.



Fine, but is it an accomplishment when a bad team lauds you?



The point is this "not a team player" meme is bullshit.

Pretty sure there is a difference between "team player" and "teammates like him"

Everyone is judging this trade today. It won't be judge for three years and that all depends on what players are brought it with the picks.

San Diego fans still think they got the better of the Eli/Rivers trade, yet they dont have 2 super bowls and the only one left on their team from the trade is Rivers. Give it a couple months to see what goes along with it
RE: RE: Name one New York Giant player  
Scuzzlebutt : 3/12/2019 11:40 pm : link
In comment 14330039 OBJ_AllDay said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't. The locker room won't recover any time soon. Play your ass off. Play great. But if you express yourself at all, you're gone. Maybe Tuffy Lehmans is available. After 62 years, I'm a Brown's fan.



Good post. I hope saquon is paying attention to how premier players are treated by mgmt on the NYG


OBJ was treated fine. They paid him a shitload of money and then traded him when it was clear he didn’t want to be here anymore. OBJ got everything he wanted.
Did someone really say  
ajr2456 : 3/12/2019 11:40 pm : link
Irvin was better for the locker room than Odell? The same Irivin who put the blade of a scissor to a teammates throat?
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GiantGrit : 3/12/2019 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14330057 Sonic Youth said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't.



Fine, but is it an accomplishment when a bad team lauds you?



The point is this "not a team player" meme is bullshit.


Odell is an awesome talent.

Also -
Has injury concerns
Got paid well
Decided to do a national interview (team didn’t know) and made an ass out of himself and the team where he questioned his future with the team
Per good inside info here, milked an injury at the end of the year

Hate we gave up a talent? Ok
Don’t like the compensation? Ok
Pretending like he was a saint and didn’t have baggage, pretending the Giants didn’t try desperately to make this work? Bullshit.
RE: I am just laughing at some of the comments..  
Giants_Rock : 3/12/2019 11:51 pm : link
In comment 14329768 EricJ said:
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and I mentioned this in the other thread.

We should have gotten more? Held out for a better offer? From who exactly? The league spoke and we got what the market will bear regardless as to whether the fans think it was enough.

If Odell was worth so much more, then another team would have given us a bit more. We over valued him based upon his current situation.


If we had a lot of depth at WR then trading him would make more sense. But as it is we now have another position that's in major need of repair and on top of that we're paying 16M for Odell to play elsewhere. DG needs to go and he needs to go soon.
RE: If the Giants  
djm : 3/12/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14329625 MookGiants said:
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wanted Barkley to be the focal point and wanted it to be Barkley's team, someone needs to show them a calendar and that it's 2019 and not 1979.

If the focal point of your team is your running back, get ready to lose a shit ton of games.


Bullshit.
The weight some people give to meaningless bullshit  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2019 12:01 am : link
Like interviews and press conferences is laughable
RE: If the Giants  
Mr. Bungle : 3/13/2019 12:09 am : link
In comment 14329625 MookGiants said:
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wanted Barkley to be the focal point and wanted it to be Barkley's team, someone needs to show them a calendar and that it's 2019 and not 1979.

If the focal point of your team is your running back, get ready to lose a shit ton of games.

The 2016 Dallas Cowboys say hello.

And so do the 2015 and 2012 Minnesota Vikings.
RE: RE: If the Giants  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 12:11 am : link
In comment 14330258 Mr. Bungle said:
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wanted Barkley to be the focal point and wanted it to be Barkley's team, someone needs to show them a calendar and that it's 2019 and not 1979.

If the focal point of your team is your running back, get ready to lose a shit ton of games.


The 2016 Dallas Cowboys say hello.

And so do the 2015 and 2012 Minnesota Vikings.


Well of course they can wave hello when their hands are empty.
RE: RE: RE: If the Giants  
Mr. Bungle : 3/13/2019 12:12 am : link
In comment 14330266 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14329625 MookGiants said:


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wanted Barkley to be the focal point and wanted it to be Barkley's team, someone needs to show them a calendar and that it's 2019 and not 1979.

If the focal point of your team is your running back, get ready to lose a shit ton of games.


The 2016 Dallas Cowboys say hello.

And so do the 2015 and 2012 Minnesota Vikings.



Well of course they can wave hello when their hands are empty.

Did those teams "lose a shit ton of games"?
RE: RE: If the Giants  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14330258 Mr. Bungle said:
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The 2016 Dallas Cowboys say hello.

And so do the 2015 and 2012 Minnesota Vikings.


Lofty goals.
RE: RE: Name one New York Giant player  
Jimmy Googs : 3/13/2019 12:14 am : link
In comment 14330042 santacruzom said:
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who ever said a negative word about OBJ. You can't.



Fine, but is it an accomplishment when a bad team lauds you?


pardon my not being PC, but that's a retarded comment...
Don't apologize for calling a spade a spade.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 12:15 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: If the Giants  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 12:18 am : link
In comment 14330274 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14330258 Mr. Bungle said:


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In comment 14329625 MookGiants said:


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wanted Barkley to be the focal point and wanted it to be Barkley's team, someone needs to show them a calendar and that it's 2019 and not 1979.

If the focal point of your team is your running back, get ready to lose a shit ton of games.


The 2016 Dallas Cowboys say hello.

And so do the 2015 and 2012 Minnesota Vikings.



Well of course they can wave hello when their hands are empty.


Did those teams "lose a shit ton of games"?


They didn't win anything with their high priced RB did they? Want to know why? Look at their QBs.
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