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mdthedream : 3/12/2019 9:54 pm
what if the Giants trade for Rosen? Is he in play? You never know what the plan is. Going to be interesting.
that was my first thought  
markky : 3/12/2019 9:54 pm : link
after Pat Hanlon's tweet. Our 17 for Rosen.
He might be now.  
SHO'NUFF : 3/12/2019 9:54 pm : link
They might as well say fuck it and release Eli at this point.
RE: that was my first thought  
Anakim : 3/12/2019 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14329234 markky said:
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after Pat Hanlon's tweet. Our 17 for Rosen.


That would suck. He likely can be had for a second rounder
RE: that was my first thought  
section125 : 3/12/2019 9:54 pm : link
In comment 14329234 markky said:
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after Pat Hanlon's tweet. Our 17 for Rosen.


Maybe #37...
or  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 9:55 pm : link
give up a 2nd and 3rd.
Your franchise QB  
UberAlias : 3/12/2019 9:55 pm : link
Is one of the few things you consider dealing Odell for.
What was Pat’s  
Big Blue '56 : 3/12/2019 9:55 pm : link
tweet?
RE: RE: that was my first thought  
AcidTest : 3/12/2019 9:57 pm : link
In comment 14329238 Anakim said:
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In comment 14329234 markky said:


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after Pat Hanlon's tweet. Our 17 for Rosen.



That would suck. He likely can be had for a second rounder


The extra first doesn't mean they would trade it for Rosen. I would, but it could just make them more comfortable trading #37. But JonC says they don't think Rosen's personality is a good fit.
massive overpay  
huygens20 : 3/12/2019 9:57 pm : link
Rosen is not even worth a 2nd rounder.


He's a third at best right now. You dont give 1st round picks to a guy who literally showed 0 life in year 1. His rookie contract older now, he takes up more cap space, etc. based on that metric alone, he is not worth a 1st round pick because of the guaranteed 5th year 1st rounders get.

he's a 2nd round pick at best because he's now 1 year closer to free agency and 2nd rounders dont have the extra guaranteed year.

Now you consider his performance, he's not a 2nd round pick. third at best.
slow down  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 9:58 pm : link
he was a rookie QB with a very shitty line.
Or a 3rd and a 5th  
RobCarpenter : 3/12/2019 9:58 pm : link
We’ll see what happens.
I am  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
all for cheaper if they can do it.
Don't trade a first for Rosen  
Matt in SGS : 3/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
I think a 2nd will be more than enough, particularly because the 3rd is too far back. Getting #17 made the second round expendable to deal for a Rosen. I'd do it if I were the Giants.
My first thought too.  
Blue21 : 3/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
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also  
huygens20 : 3/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
If people think none of these things matter, they do.


It's why BAL picked Lamar Jackson at 32. QBs are expensive and if there is any chance they become good, you are gonna be on your hands and knees for that locked in 5th year guarantee.


Rosen for 17 would literally be dumbest thing any NFL GM has done in a very very long time.
We can do better than Rosen...  
Torrag : 3/12/2019 9:59 pm : link
...easily.
RE: What was Pat’s  
markky : 3/12/2019 10:01 pm : link
In comment 14329250 Big Blue '56 said:
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tweet?


Some lady tweeted that her Giants fan husband was swearing, and Pat tweeted back "have him call me after 4 tomorrow".

The implication being that we are making a move tomorrow.

what else could it be?
How  
cokeduplt : 3/12/2019 10:02 pm : link
Does his tweet = Rosen? Please explain
i'm not suggest the Giants should trade 17 for Rosen  
markky : 3/12/2019 10:02 pm : link
i'd be much happier if they traded a 3rd and 5th or even #37.

I'm just trying to decipher Pat's tweet
BIG WEDNESDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
blueblood : 3/12/2019 10:03 pm : link
maybe ???
RE: How  
markky : 3/12/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14329306 cokeduplt said:
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Does his tweet = Rosen? Please explain


the implication is that there is some move happening tomorrow. any other guesses?
RE: also  
cokeduplt : 3/12/2019 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14329286 huygens20 said:
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If people think none of these things matter, they do.


It's why BAL picked Lamar Jackson at 32. QBs are expensive and if there is any chance they become good, you are gonna be on your hands and knees for that locked in 5th year guarantee.


Rosen for 17 would literally be dumbest thing any NFL GM has done in a very very long time.


Dumbest thing since trading Odell anyway
RE: RE: How  
cokeduplt : 3/12/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14329313 markky said:
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In comment 14329306 cokeduplt said:


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Does his tweet = Rosen? Please explain



the implication is that there is some move happening tomorrow. any other guesses?


Ok so you guys are just throwing shit out there
There  
AcidTest : 3/12/2019 10:04 pm : link
are several advantages to trading for Rosen, assuming the price is right:

He's already had a year in the league, and is therefore more likely to be able to contribute right away. A rookie might not be able to do so.

He's a lot cheaper than Eli. Releasing Eli would save a lot of cap money that we could use on FAs, or role over to next year.
RE: RE: RE: How  
markky : 3/12/2019 10:06 pm : link
In comment 14329324 cokeduplt said:
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In comment 14329313 markky said:


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In comment 14329306 cokeduplt said:


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Does his tweet = Rosen? Please explain



the implication is that there is some move happening tomorrow. any other guesses?



Ok so you guys are just throwing shit out there


yes. that's what a guess is.
LOL!  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 10:07 pm : link
Yes was thinking that a lot can happen seeing we have extra picks.
I'd trade the #17 for Rosen  
DonQuixote : 3/12/2019 10:17 pm : link
in a heartbeat
RE: What was Pat’s  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/12/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14329250 Big Blue '56 said:
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tweet?


Come on -- keep up old man
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Yes Please.  
wpetinaudjr : 3/12/2019 10:24 pm : link
3 and 5 for Rosen would be ideal.
Our 2 would be tough but livable
Our 17, they'd have to send Rosen and a 3rd.

Wayne
agree  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 10:27 pm : link
at 17 we prob could take a QB like Lock or Grier something like that.
Jones  
mdthedream : 3/12/2019 10:29 pm : link
whoever they like. So a 2nd makes more sense.
yes  
giantfan2000 : 3/12/2019 10:32 pm : link
#2 for Rosen and cut Eli would be a new day in Giantland
Trade oBJ and Rosen is the return?.  
Bill L : 3/12/2019 10:33 pm : link
Geezuz

We need every single pick. We still need multiple defenders and 2 OL starters and now we need a WR.

Rosen’s longevity is nil, there are better qb’s next year, and after today’s trade, we’re so much closer to the top of the draft where three if not four as good or better prospects await. Our odds of getting one next year are incredible.
If you want a more complete team build, Lauletta and the 2020 first rounder is the way to go.
I love BBI  
Pork Chop : 3/12/2019 10:38 pm : link
Yesterday/Today: The STARTING point for OBJ is two #1s, two #2s and maybe swap third round pics...and there better be something in 2020 too

Tonight: I wouldn't offer more than the last pick in the 3rd for Rosen
RE: I love BBI  
Mike from Ohio : 3/12/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14329659 Pork Chop said:
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Yesterday/Today: The STARTING point for OBJ is two #1s, two #2s and maybe swap third round pics...and there better be something in 2020 too

Tonight: I wouldn't offer more than the last pick in the 3rd for Rosen


That was a couple of clueless posters, not BBI. Nobody with any common sense expected two #1s for OBJ, and nobody with any common sense thinks you will get Rosen for a 3rd.
Other than a former mvp qb and a former gm  
Bill L : 3/12/2019 10:49 pm : link
I don’t want him at all, so a third would be too much for me. And, I don’t like giving up a pick just for a one year filler. I don’t get why people are suggesting that approach. Like, what’s he going to do next year with this team? Just do the tank with Lauretta and move on.
RE: I love BBI  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/12/2019 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14329659 Pork Chop said:
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Yesterday/Today: The STARTING point for OBJ is two #1s, two #2s and maybe swap third round pics...and there better be something in 2020 too

Tonight: I wouldn't offer more than the last pick in the 3rd for Rosen


It's how this site's always been since I've been here at least. Is what it is.
Are you saying that the site has gone downhill since you’ve been here?  
Bill L : 3/12/2019 10:57 pm : link
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RE: Are you saying that the site has gone downhill since you’ve been here?  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/12/2019 10:58 pm : link
In comment 14329810 Bill L said:
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Did I even comment on the quality of the posts? No. I'm agreeing with another poster that it's funny how posters can be about draft picks on here. That's all. Didn't even say it was awful, but is just the way it is.
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