i am sure mannings are pissed about this move. they cannot win with the team as constructed with no defense NO #1 WR...eli is clearly better with OBJ....
I think he was referencing Big Blue Kickoff live at 4pm tomorrow.
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I think he was referencing Big Blue Kickoff live at 4pm tomorrow.
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ah makes sense... but why would he tell a pissed off fan to call him? he made it sound like some good news or related news was coming
Are building this offense around Barkley. He is there best player and the oline is significantly better. It will get even better soon enough. Why do people think Hankins tweet has to do w Eli? Unless something happened late today. It doesn't.
I think the Giants will force the “Kansas City Model” and ask Eli to groom his replacement , I just hope they don’t trade 6 and 17 to move up to 3 to get Haskins. That would annoy the hell out of me because I think he’ll be ok, but not great. Now if they try to trade up to 1...well
Are building this offense around Barkley. He is there best player and the oline is significantly better. It will get even better soon enough. Why do people think Hankins tweet has to do w Eli? Unless something happened late today. It doesn't.
most people thinking it means a daryl williams signing...which you just kind of eluded to, also maybe a move for rosen.
I think the Giants will force the “Kansas City Model” and ask Eli to groom his replacement , I just hope they don’t trade 6 and 17 to move up to 3 to get Haskins. That would annoy the hell out of me because I think he’ll be ok, but not great. Now if they try to trade up to 1...well
Agreed, if they trade up to get Murray I would be in full support of it but not trading two 1st's for Haskins.
Are building this offense around Barkley. He is there best player and the oline is significantly better. It will get even better soon enough. Why do people think Hankins tweet has to do w Eli? Unless something happened late today. It doesn't.
I think if you want to build your team around a RB, the best friend he could possibly have is a WR threat.
Are building this offense around Barkley. He is there best player and the oline is significantly better. It will get even better soon enough. Why do people think Hankins tweet has to do w Eli? Unless something happened late today. It doesn't.
So your nugget here is an OL addition is imminent. Ok.
There is no QB being taken at 6. The only QB I here they could take is Daniel Jones. Most likely QB next year is What I'm told
That would be disappointing. I’d rather trade pick 6 and the 4th rounder for the 3rd pick to NY Jets and get Haskins or trade our 2nd round pick to AZ for Rosen.
There is no QB being taken at 6. The only QB I here they could take is Daniel Jones. Most likely QB next year is What I'm told
With all due respect, you also heard OBJ would be dealt next year to make room for a new QB. Maybe with the trade done they'll get a new QB.
I have no faith in them to pick a QB this year. This team is going to do whatever it is they want. They are a rudderless ship that an over the hill GM seems to be playing games with. I'm glad DSG is having fun, because I am not.
If they are not cutting Eli or making an imminent trade, I have no earthly idea why they made this trade now instead of closer to the draft. I assumed - as Matt did - that maybe there was some method to the madness. Apparently not. What a load of crap this is.
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Sad that he'll end up with a sub .500 record and the rest of the league will never let him forget it. I've always felt he was a lock for the hall, but the past couple of years have made me doubt that, and if this season is as bad as I think it's going to be then Eli's chances are going to shit.
The front office has had a good couple days but we're still not out of the woods with this group. Their collective work (hiring Shurmur, signing Beckham and Solder, drafting Barkley) is still a huge net negative despite what have been a good couple days.
Daniel Jones shows that the old ways are alive and well. The Cutcliffe connection at work.
The Giants with this rebuild. Fans calling him names just because Odell got traded is rather sad.
The Eli thing with the fans bitching has gotten disgusting and I don’t mean because Eli deserves better. He’s fine he can take it. I mean it’s literally nauseating and absurd to see fans so upset that Eli is still the qb. It’s got to be the most unnecessary display of angst from a fan base I’ve ever seen.
The Giants with this rebuild. Fans calling him names just because Odell got traded is rather sad.
The Eli thing with the fans bitching has gotten disgusting and I don’t mean because Eli deserves better. He’s fine he can take it. I mean it’s literally nauseating and absurd to see fans so upset that Eli is still the qb. It’s got to be the most unnecessary display of angst from a fan base I’ve ever seen.
Agreed. To some fans it seem like getting rid of Eli is the answer to all of our problems.
Im in the minority. I don't feel this trade dooms the Giants this year. I really don't. In fact I think, despite popular opinion, it may end up being beneficial. Either way. Shurmer was Odells biggest defender, until years end. Now he wanted him gone. Odell couldn't stay here when he pulled the crap he pulled at years end
Im in the minority. I don't feel this trade dooms the Giants this year. I really don't. In fact I think, despite popular opinion, it may end up being beneficial. Either way. Shurmer was Odells biggest defender, until years end. Now he wanted him gone. Odell couldn't stay here when he pulled the crap he pulled at years end
Interesting. Thanks!
Eli - without OBJ to catch so many of his off target throws - Â
Im in the minority. I don't feel this trade dooms the Giants this year. I really don't. In fact I think, despite popular opinion, it may end up being beneficial. Either way. Shurmer was Odells biggest defender, until years end. Now he wanted him gone. Odell couldn't stay here when he pulled the crap he pulled at years end
You think they’ll be better than last year??
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is going to put up an atrocious season this year, even behind a pretty good OL.
By ESPN's QBR he'll finish about 33rd out of the 32 starting QBs in this league.
It's going to be real real ugly, and I hope I'm wrong.
I think he'll be atrocious but I think his stats will show him as a mediocre QB once again. The reason is that he's going to throw for a ton of late game yards against prevent defenses in games were are being blown out by halftime.
(Aside from $23 million, that is)
Never say never. It is the next logical move in realty. Saves $17 mill?
Well, they won’t be winning. So what’s Archie’s next move?
I think he was referencing Big Blue Kickoff live at 4pm tomorrow.
John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
As a reminder Big Blue Kickoff is at a special time on Wednesday at 4PM right at the start of the league year when a lot of these things (hopefuly) become official. I imagine we're going to get a lot of calls? Looking forward to talking to you then
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any idea what hanlon meant in his tweet?
I think he was referencing Big Blue Kickoff live at 4pm tomorrow.
John Schmeelk
@Schmeelk
As a reminder Big Blue Kickoff is at a special time on Wednesday at 4PM right at the start of the league year when a lot of these things (hopefuly) become official. I imagine we're going to get a lot of calls? Looking forward to talking to you then Link - ( New Window )
ah makes sense... but why would he tell a pissed off fan to call him? he made it sound like some good news or related news was coming
As opposed to the sub-.500 record if he leaves...
I suppose if we draft a young QB you could argue it'd be helpful to have Eli mentor him, but is that the best use of $17M in cap space?
And what is the rationale if we don't draft a young QB? Eli will help us win 5 games instead of 2? How the fuck does that help us????
most people thinking it means a daryl williams signing...which you just kind of eluded to, also maybe a move for rosen.
give me something jt. im on the ledge here haha
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As opposed to the sub-.500 record if he leaves...
He's 2 games over .500 right now..
Agreed, if they trade up to get Murray I would be in full support of it but not trading two 1st's for Haskins.
I think if you want to build your team around a RB, the best friend he could possibly have is a WR threat.
So your nugget here is an OL addition is imminent. Ok.
Get us that QB. That's what matters now.
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As opposed to the sub-.500 record if he leaves...
He's 2 games over .500 right now..
I misread your comment. Sorry. I thought you meant sub-.500 record next year.
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any chance of rosen?
If we take Daniel Jones i'm chugging bleach.
Makes perfect sense, right? Especially one that hasn't exactly played great in several years now.
And now they don’t even have a #1 receiver. Jesus.
The Giants will find a way to extend Dumbface. SMH. Unreal how long this shit continues.
That would be disappointing. I’d rather trade pick 6 and the 4th rounder for the 3rd pick to NY Jets and get Haskins or trade our 2nd round pick to AZ for Rosen.
I hope not on Jones at 17 or in round 1
And now they don’t even have a #1 receiver. Jesus.
He has 23 million reasons to play this year.
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The Giants will find a way to extend Dumbface. SMH. Unreal how long this shit continues.
Dumbface? Grow up.
With all due respect, you also heard OBJ would be dealt next year to make room for a new QB. Maybe with the trade done they'll get a new QB.
I have no faith in them to pick a QB this year. This team is going to do whatever it is they want. They are a rudderless ship that an over the hill GM seems to be playing games with. I'm glad DSG is having fun, because I am not.
If they are not cutting Eli or making an imminent trade, I have no earthly idea why they made this trade now instead of closer to the draft. I assumed - as Matt did - that maybe there was some method to the madness. Apparently not. What a load of crap this is.
Sad that he'll end up with a sub .500 record and the rest of the league will never let him forget it. I've always felt he was a lock for the hall, but the past couple of years have made me doubt that, and if this season is as bad as I think it's going to be then Eli's chances are going to shit.
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The Giants will find a way to extend Dumbface. SMH. Unreal how long this shit continues.
The way some Giants fans shit on Eli is pathetic.
Daniel Jones shows that the old ways are alive and well. The Cutcliffe connection at work.
The Eli thing with the fans bitching has gotten disgusting and I don’t mean because Eli deserves better. He’s fine he can take it. I mean it’s literally nauseating and absurd to see fans so upset that Eli is still the qb. It’s got to be the most unnecessary display of angst from a fan base I’ve ever seen.
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The Giants with this rebuild. Fans calling him names just because Odell got traded is rather sad.
The Eli thing with the fans bitching has gotten disgusting and I don’t mean because Eli deserves better. He’s fine he can take it. I mean it’s literally nauseating and absurd to see fans so upset that Eli is still the qb. It’s got to be the most unnecessary display of angst from a fan base I’ve ever seen.
Agreed. To some fans it seem like getting rid of Eli is the answer to all of our problems.
Interesting. Thanks!
By ESPN's QBR he'll finish about 33rd out of the 32 starting QBs in this league.
It's going to be real real ugly, and I hope I'm wrong.
You think they’ll be better than last year??
By ESPN's QBR he'll finish about 33rd out of the 32 starting QBs in this league.
It's going to be real real ugly, and I hope I'm wrong.
Just like the GB playoff game 2 years ao right?
By ESPN's QBR he'll finish about 33rd out of the 32 starting QBs in this league.
It's going to be real real ugly, and I hope I'm wrong.
I think he'll be atrocious but I think his stats will show him as a mediocre QB once again. The reason is that he's going to throw for a ton of late game yards against prevent defenses in games were are being blown out by halftime.