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If the Browns do manage to win a super bowl w Odell Beckham

giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:25 am
They will COMPLETELY change the traditional NFL philosophy of what type of locker room personnel it takes to win a Super Bowl.

And that would be something of a “generational talent”

And I personally would shit meself
Sigh....  
djm : 3/13/2019 12:26 am : link
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Maybe the Browns do win one with Odell  
j_rud : 3/13/2019 12:26 am : link
Doesn't mean the Giants ever would have.
The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 12:27 am : link
that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.
Just curious  
Torrag : 3/13/2019 12:29 am : link
Landry had 81 catches, Njoku had 88 catches...so who's giving up the ball for OBJ? Haha.
RE: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:31 am : link
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that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.


One of those teams were malcontent me-first divas. All those guys lived to win first
*none  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:32 am : link
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I would remind Browns' fans of the Winston Wolf quote  
bc4life : 3/13/2019 12:32 am : link
"Let's not........just yet"
RE: RE: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 12:34 am : link
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that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.



One of those teams were malcontent me-first divas. All those guys lived to win first


That's dime store psychology. There's plenty of teams in the NFL that win with players that aren't fall in line crew-cut hair wearing good soldiers. The 90s cowboys were a dynasty and half of them were on coke and plowing strippers. Charles Haley had a diagnosed mental disorder.
Someone get the memo  
SHO'NUFF : 3/13/2019 12:38 am : link
to sensitive Mara
RE: RE: RE: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:44 am : link
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that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.



One of those teams were malcontent me-first divas. All those guys lived to win first



That's dime store psychology. There's plenty of teams in the NFL that win with players that aren't fall in line crew-cut hair wearing good soldiers. The 90s cowboys were a dynasty and half of them were on coke and plowing strippers. Charles Haley had a diagnosed mental disorder.

One can make arguments on their opinion all day on these. We aren’t on the same page as to what a diva is.
Lawrence Taylor falls into your category. And he doesn’t fall into mine.
RE: RE: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 12:46 am : link
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that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.



One of those teams were malcontent me-first divas. All those guys lived to win first


They had Ray Lewis.
Lawrence Taylor fell asleep in game prep meetings  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 12:46 am : link
and stayed out late nights doing coke and not taking care of himself. That's far worse than anything Beckham ever did, but god help the person trying to make that point. They're swimming against nostalgia.
You want to talk about Odell being a distraction  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 12:47 am : link
Imagine your best player going on trial for murder
RE: RE: RE: The 2000 Baltimore Ravens were a collection of Free Agent mercenaries  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:48 am : link
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that won a super bowl. It's not like there isn't a precedent for personalities and characters to win in this league. The 70s raiders lived off it.



One of those teams were malcontent me-first divas. All those guys lived to win first



They had Ray Lewis.


I disagree completely w this comparison.
Ray Lewis was the epitome of a team player, winnig was very imorotwnt to him and actually loved his organization his whole career.

He also killed someone while Odell Beckham has not...yet lol

I would love for Ray Lewis to be a WR for the Giants.
RE: Lawrence Taylor fell asleep in game prep meetings  
giantsFC : 3/13/2019 12:51 am : link
In comment 14330400 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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and stayed out late nights doing coke and not taking care of himself. That's far worse than anything Beckham ever did, but god help the person trying to make that point. They're swimming against nostalgia.


As a linebacker, would he have flown under the radar more and been less of a media nuke? Probably. Also in modern times, he probably wouldn’t have actually been able to make it past year one if he was the same guy, who knows. There may have not even been an LT if he played now
Whether he would have gotten away with it today  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 1:02 am : link
Seems largely meaningless to this conversation.

Lawrence Taylor had issues. He was certainly selfish. He failed a drug test as a Giant and missed games. He wasnt a good locker room presence. He wasnt a good person. But out of respect for his talent, nobody took him off the team.

People choose to remeber LT for his talent and not the trouble that came with it. I wish they did this for all players. Its sports. Grown men shouldn't care what other men wear before a game or how he spends his free time as long as it's not in the presence of police activity.
They didn't get any closer to winning anything today  
Go Terps : 3/13/2019 1:09 am : link
I wouldn't worry about it.
RE: They didn't get any closer to winning anything today  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2019 1:10 am : link
In comment 14330439 Go Terps said:
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I wouldn't worry about it.


okay. i am going to fucking LOVE your explanation when he helps them win games. the guy is a STUD. youre literally the only person on planet earth who doesnt think so.

did you go to LSU? did he fuck your girl or something? you have a weird fetish with hating this guy
Deion  
Les in TO : 3/13/2019 6:09 am : link
Went on to win two Super Bowls after leaving the falcons where he began his career. This is the closest analogy to a game changing controversial skill player leaving in his prime.
If the Browns win the Super Bowl...  
hazydave : 3/13/2019 6:14 am : link
....they will make history because they're the Cleveland freakin' Browns.

It will change absolutely NOTHING about locker room philosophy or the formula for kind of players who win Super Bowls.
If they win the super bowl  
micky : 3/13/2019 6:27 am : link
It won't solely be because of obj. You know there's other players on that team
RE: Just curious  
micky : 3/13/2019 6:27 am : link
In comment 14330332 Torrag said:
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Landry had 81 catches, Njoku had 88 catches...so who's giving up the ball for OBJ? Haha.


He'll soon be crying to go to LA
It would be shocking if the Browns get that far  
ZogZerg : 3/13/2019 6:44 am : link
Off Season Champs don't usually do so well when the games actually count.
Nah  
mdthedream : 3/13/2019 6:51 am : link
he will choke like he did in the Playoffs for use.
How about they make the playoffs first  
RobCrossRiver56 : 3/13/2019 7:00 am : link
11 wins in the last 4 years
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