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DanMetroMan : 3/13/2019 7:44 am
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I’m told the picks flipped in Olivier Vernon/Kevin Zeitler trade between Giants-Browns revert back as part of last night’s blockbuster.

So ultimately, deal is OBJ and Vernon for Zeitler, Peppers, 17th overall and 95th overall (New England’s pick).

NYG get 133 back, Browns 155
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Yay  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2019 7:44 am : link
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I will take that  
DonnieD89 : 3/13/2019 7:45 am : link
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Ok good  
Rjanyg : 3/13/2019 7:46 am : link
Still not a great trade
I believe Sy...  
Strip-Sack : 3/13/2019 7:47 am : link
said there are a bunch of good WRs to be had in rounds 2 - 4 in this draft so while this isn't earth shattering....it is potential good value.
So the end deal is exactly what was being reported  
Saos1n : 3/13/2019 7:47 am : link
Prior to the Vernon trade

Disgusting
I'll take it  
BlueHurricane : 3/13/2019 7:47 am : link
Gettleman knows how to draft. These picks can reshape the franchise.
Well that is good  
Mike from Ohio : 3/13/2019 7:47 am : link
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Master negotiator  
madeinstars : 3/13/2019 7:48 am : link
at work.
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Sean : 3/13/2019 7:48 am : link
1st
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2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
5th
5th
6th
7th
7th

Nice haul of picks.
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Tesla : 3/13/2019 7:49 am : link
In comment 14330763 Sean said:
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1st
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Nice haul of picks.


Just think of all the mid-round QB's we'll be able to pick to replace Lauletta!!!
Sean  
bc4life : 3/13/2019 7:50 am : link
Thanks - seing it eases the sting of the OBJ trade, at least a little bit
when was last time Giants had  
bc4life : 3/13/2019 7:50 am : link
2 1st round picks?
That can't hurt  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 7:51 am : link
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A small plus, but nice to know. Dan MM is always on top of things  
Ira : 3/13/2019 7:51 am : link
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Big fucking deal  
The_Boss : 3/13/2019 7:53 am : link
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Well, then, the Giants made out!! LOL  
ZogZerg : 3/13/2019 7:53 am : link
Actually, I thought about that when the trade was announced and wondered have DG couldn't at least get the 4th round pick back. So, at least it is something.

Odell & a 5 for
Peppers, 1, 3 & 4
They changed a pretzel to a hot dog.  
jcn56 : 3/13/2019 7:54 am : link
Gettleman will be thrilled.
RE: ..  
joeinpa : 3/13/2019 8:01 am : link
In comment 14330763 Sean said:
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Nice haul of picks.


Yep. Isn’t this what the majority of this board has been calling for the past several seasons.
If they'd only gotten an extra #2 last night  
JonC : 3/13/2019 8:02 am : link
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RE: If they'd only gotten an extra #2 last night  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 8:04 am : link
In comment 14330832 JonC said:
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Or a better 3.
Can't think of the last time  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 8:05 am : link
the Giants had 12 picks in the 7 round era.
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Rong5611 : 3/13/2019 8:07 am : link
He may use them to trade up in some spots...

In comment 14330771 Tesla said:
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In comment 14330763 Sean said:


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1st
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
5th
5th
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Nice haul of picks.



Just think of all the mid-round QB's we'll be able to pick to replace Lauletta!!!
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ZogZerg : 3/13/2019 8:07 am : link
In comment 14330824 joeinpa said:
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In comment 14330763 Sean said:


Yep. Isn’t this what the majority of this board has been calling for the past several seasons.


Right. Folks wanted a complete reboot, which it appears we are headed for. Now, they are mad about it. I guess mad about the compensation. But, if you are rebuilding, trading OBJ makes sense. But, so does dumping Eli.
RE: If they'd only gotten an extra #2 last night  
The_Boss : 3/13/2019 8:09 am : link
In comment 14330832 JonC said:
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Dave Gettleman, master negotiator. Buy high, sell low.
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bigbluescot : 3/13/2019 8:09 am : link
In comment 14330763 Sean said:
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Nice haul of picks.


The 3rd is essentially a 4th.
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Beer Man : 3/13/2019 8:12 am : link
In comment 14330771 Tesla said:
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In comment 14330763 Sean said:


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1st
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
5th
5th
6th
7th
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Nice haul of picks.



Just think of all the mid-round QB's we'll be able to pick to replace Lauletta!!!
Who was the Senior Bowl MVP? Might as well make it three years in a row.
Rounds 4 and 5  
Dankbeerman : 3/13/2019 8:22 am : link
are where your scouting can impact your team the most. positioning doesnt matter that much as boards will drift farther apart from team to team. these rounds will dictate future success and failure
With all of those late picks  
DavidinBMNY : 3/13/2019 8:25 am : link
You have to figure Gettleman will leverage some of that to move and target player in this draft. It is going to be one heck of a fun night.
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AcidTest : 3/13/2019 8:29 am : link
In comment 14330832 JonC said:
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Agreed. I didn't want to trade him, but we needed a lot more at a minimum. "Unflipping" the picks isn't nearly enough.
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jeff57 : 3/13/2019 8:31 am : link
In comment 14330866 Beer Man said:
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In comment 14330771 Tesla said:


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In comment 14330763 Sean said:


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1st
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
5th
5th
6th
7th
7th

Nice haul of picks.



Just think of all the mid-round QB's we'll be able to pick to replace Lauletta!!!

Who was the Senior Bowl MVP? Might as well make it three years in a row.


Daniel Jones
These are smart moves.  
Maryland Giant : 3/13/2019 8:31 am : link
Let’s hope the draft picks are maximized.
Not trying to rain on anyone's parade  
Jay in Toronto : 3/13/2019 8:39 am : link
But isn't this supposed to be a meh draft class?

(I hope I'm wrong)
Wtf is a "trade"?  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 3/13/2019 8:39 am : link
-Jerry Reese
RE: I will take that  
5BowlsSoon : 3/13/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14330751 DonnieD89 said:
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Yes 8mdeed, I will take this too! Every little bit helps.
RE: Not trying to rain on anyone's parade  
BigBlueJ : 3/13/2019 8:41 am : link
In comment 14331022 Jay in Toronto said:
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But isn't this supposed to be a meh draft class?

(I hope I'm wrong)


This is the deepest DL and OL draft in a decade!
Well, at least  
5BowlsSoon : 3/13/2019 8:42 am : link
We have a lot more to look forward to this draft season. Unless of course we screw up and trade some picks for some declining player
A good GM, or even a competent one,  
WillieYoung : 3/13/2019 8:45 am : link
who came in here with a 36 year old QB in complete decline who just won 3 games would have cut him, drafted Darnold and then, even if he made all the bonehead moves DG made last year, would have come into this offseason with his QB situation under control and an additional $28 Million in cap space. Probably would have had a higher draft pick this year too. The pain would be over and we'd be building towards a championship instead of working on year two of a teardown.
Ask the Browns  
mrvax : 3/13/2019 8:50 am : link
to give us Perriman for a 5th.
RE: A good GM, or even a competent one,  
5BowlsSoon : 3/13/2019 8:51 am : link
In comment 14331065 WillieYoung said:
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who came in here with a 36 year old QB in complete decline who just won 3 games would have cut him, drafted Darnold and then, even if he made all the bonehead moves DG made last year, would have come into this offseason with his QB situation under control and an additional $28 Million in cap space. Probably would have had a higher draft pick this year too. The pain would be over and we'd be building towards a championship instead of working on year two of a teardown.


I disagree. Eli still easily had at least two good years left, just like Rivers and Ben. You saw how he played in second half after we got JBrown.
Applying this news to the Spotrac Draft Tracker  
RawhideMarshall : 3/13/2019 8:52 am : link
it appears we have the following picks:
1.06 (06)
1.17 (17) from CLE
2.05 (37)
3.31 (95) from NE via CLE
4.06 (108)
4.30 (132) from NO
5.02 (140) from SF via DET
5.05 (143)
5.33 (171) compensatory
6.07 (180)
7.18 (232) from MIN
7.31 (245) from LAR

Spotrac 2019 NFL Draft Tracker (Before "Unswapping") - ( New Window )
FWIW  
RawhideMarshall : 3/13/2019 8:56 am : link
I thought we were getting Detroit's 5th round pick, which would be 5.08 (146). Can anyone confirm that we are getting 140 instead?
I still have this feeling  
Matt in SGS : 3/13/2019 8:59 am : link
the Giants are going to trade for Rosen and will dangle the 3rd they got in the Odell trade, and perhaps now this 4th. I don't think they will give up a first rounder and I think they won't give up the 2nd rounder either, since there is no market for Rosen. They might also offer the 3rd and one of their 5ths for him.

Remember, if the Cardinals are getting Murray, they have to get rid of Rosen. And if the scouts feel that Rosen is right there with a Haskins or Lock, I'd rather use a 3rd rounder on a trade to bring him in and use the 2 firsts and the 2nd to reload the defense and the mid round picks on the WRs.

To me, the worst possible move is packaging 6 and 17 to move up for Haskins.
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Beer Man : 3/13/2019 8:59 am : link
In comment 14330980 jeff57 said:
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In comment 14330763 Sean said:


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1st
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
4th
5th
5th
5th
6th
7th
7th

Nice haul of picks.



Just think of all the mid-round QB's we'll be able to pick to replace Lauletta!!!

Who was the Senior Bowl MVP? Might as well make it three years in a row.



Daniel Jones
I knew that, I was just being a smart ass
RE: A good GM, or even a competent one,  
bigbluescot : 3/13/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14331065 WillieYoung said:
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who came in here with a 36 year old QB in complete decline who just won 3 games would have cut him, drafted Darnold and then, even if he made all the bonehead moves DG made last year, would have come into this offseason with his QB situation under control and an additional $28 Million in cap space. Probably would have had a higher draft pick this year too. The pain would be over and we'd be building towards a championship instead of working on year two of a teardown.


I'll give Gettleman one benefit of the doubt, if he was going to cut Eli immediately he wouldn't have gotten the job.
RE: If they'd only gotten an extra #2 last night  
bradshaw44 : 3/13/2019 9:06 am : link
In comment 14330832 JonC said:
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This is kind of my thought. I really wish he could have gotten their 2 instead of or accompanied by their shitty 3rd.
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Carson53 : 3/13/2019 9:24 am : link
In comment 14331163 bigbluescot said:
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In comment 14331065 WillieYoung said:


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who came in here with a 36 year old QB in complete decline who just won 3 games would have cut him, drafted Darnold and then, even if he made all the bonehead moves DG made last year, would have come into this offseason with his QB situation under control and an additional $28 Million in cap space. Probably would have had a higher draft pick this year too. The pain would be over and we'd be building towards a championship instead of working on year two of a teardown.



I'll give Gettleman one benefit of the doubt, if he was going to cut Eli immediately he wouldn't have gotten the job.
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Well, he can certainly cut Eli now and probably should,
just start over now. There is no sense keeping him here.
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Johnny5 : 3/13/2019 9:47 am : link
In comment 14330832 JonC said:
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I agree Jon... but I have to think they see that he hasn't had that "extra gear" he displayed before that injury. If he doesn't get that back I am OK with what we got. If he does get it back... I will be (very) bummed.
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Johnny5 : 3/13/2019 9:49 am : link
In comment 14331391 Carson53 said:
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Well, he can certainly cut Eli now and probably should,
just start over now. There is no sense keeping him here.

I'm not sure why people keep saying this. Gettleman has already stated that he likes the KC/Mahomes model of having a young QB sit and mentor behind a good and experienced starting QB. Unless he reties Eli is not going anywhere in 2019.
retires  
Johnny5 : 3/13/2019 9:49 am : link
NOT reties
wow Dave  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2019 9:54 am : link
one hell of a negotiator..
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