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Help me out! Is Peppers any good?

Fred-in-Florida : 3/13/2019 8:19 am
Seems to me he's a vital part of the trade.

Does he replace Collins? Are they both the SS type safeties?
Yesterday we signed Bethea, who from what I could get is more of a free saftey. So now the safety combo is Peppers and Bethea?

It seems We saved a lot of cap room. Not giving into Collins' demand (based on what he got from the skins) and I think Peppers is still on his rookie contract, right?
some highlights  
Jints in Carolina : 3/13/2019 8:20 am : link
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I approve  
BigBlueJ : 3/13/2019 8:20 am : link
To me he is an elite athlete still learning the game as a safety. An elite ball carrier who can take it to the house on any given play. It all depends on his ability to progress as a defensive layer.
Didn't someone start a thread with the same  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 8:21 am : link
question last night>

Yes, he's good. Not as good a tackler as Collins, but better in coverage. Plus, he's a good blitzer.
Very good tackler; good, but not great in coverage; good blitzer  
Ira : 3/13/2019 8:21 am : link
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When you consider  
Jolly Blue Giant : 3/13/2019 8:23 am : link
That’s he’s on his rookie contract, I’d rather have him than any other FA safety that was on the market this year.
Underrated part of this trade  
Capt. Don : 3/13/2019 8:25 am : link
The media is glossing over him like he is a "player to be named at a later date" type and he is not.

He is good, extremely versatile and getting better.
He was great in college at Michigan  
Beer Man : 3/13/2019 8:26 am : link
Haven't followed him with the Browns. For Michigan he was one of those guys they played all over. Safety, LB, even a little RB.
here....  
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Yes  
mdthedream : 3/13/2019 8:28 am : link
and he can return punts and kicks.
Christ....i hope is a better tackler than Collins  
Jints in Carolina : 3/13/2019 8:28 am : link
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Better cover skills then Collins...  
George from PA : 3/13/2019 8:30 am : link
Might not be as big a hitter as Collins.

Punt returner and SS.

I also suspect Bettcher will like putting him in different positions
He is  
mdthedream : 3/13/2019 8:30 am : link
as good as Collins if not better.
Good football player  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2019 8:32 am : link
big effort guy. Not gonna make amazing flash plays, but he's going to be very solid and probably only getting better. He came into the league very young
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Fred-in-Florida : 3/13/2019 8:34 am : link
In comment 14330945 I Love Clams Casino said:
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Thanks Clams.. didn't go back far enough to see this thread.

I'm not going to delete mine, because I think it's relevant to the discussions going forward and the trade.
blitz  
Steve in ATL : 3/13/2019 8:37 am : link
someone posted yesterday that he is a good blitzer too.
So it's safe to say  
Fred-in-Florida : 3/13/2019 8:37 am : link
Peppers will be able to replace Collins with some upside.

Possibly could solve our covering the TE problem we've had here forever!?
The good: he’s young and cheap  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/13/2019 8:38 am : link
Lots of potential. He’s got one sack over two years so I don’t know how you say he’s a good blitzer. He’s got one interception.

He could be really good, or not. Too early to tell.
RE: Good football player  
BlueHurricane : 3/13/2019 8:38 am : link
In comment 14330984 ryanmkeane said:
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big effort guy. Not gonna make amazing flash plays, but he's going to be very solid and probably only getting better. He came into the league very young


Not gonna make amazing flash plays???? Seriously??? This is a guy who can literally play all over the field and even on both sides of the ball in college.

He was light years better in coverage than Collins last year.
RE: RE: Good football player  
BigBlueJ : 3/13/2019 8:42 am : link
In comment 14331018 BlueHurricane said:
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In comment 14330984 ryanmkeane said:


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big effort guy. Not gonna make amazing flash plays, but he's going to be very solid and probably only getting better. He came into the league very young

Agreed, odd assessment. He is a dynamic returner, not sure you have seen him in College.



Not gonna make amazing flash plays???? Seriously??? This is a guy who can literally play all over the field and even on both sides of the ball in college.

He was light years better in coverage than Collins last year.
Glossed over is right!  
richinpa : 3/13/2019 8:51 am : link

He was a #1 pick. So we really got 2 number 1's

Not where we wanted but overall value is good and fits a need without drafting a player that we HOPE is good from college

He was fifth in Heisman voting too so no slouch
Local guy who went to Don Bosco prep

from what i have read he played well second half of the season for the browns
oh, he's from NJ? That explains the fawning  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2019 8:52 am : link
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RE: Glossed over is right!  
Mr. Bungle : 3/13/2019 8:56 am : link
In comment 14331096 richinpa said:
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Local guy who went to Don Bosco prep

He went to Paramus Catholic.
Bettcher gets his Swiss Army Backer  
j_rud : 3/13/2019 8:59 am : link
I watched the Browns quite a bit last year and he had some really solid games. Young and ascending. There was a Saturday night game last year (against Denver maybe?) where he had a pick in the endzone and a sack to seal the win. Instantly improves the talent level on the D.
RE: So it's safe to say  
Ira : 3/13/2019 9:02 am : link
In comment 14331014 Fred-in-Florida said:
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Peppers will be able to replace Collins with some upside.

Possibly could solve our covering the TE problem we've had here forever!?


He'll certainly be able to do a better job than Collins on tight ends which has been a chronic problem for the Giants defense.
He was a first  
Rolyrock : 3/13/2019 9:20 am : link
Round pick. He wasnt a bust. He returns kicks and punts. He can cover, his tackling ok. Its his third year he can have his best years in front of him
IMO  
gmen9892 : 3/13/2019 9:50 am : link
He can be a better version of Deon Bucannon under James Bettcher. The kid is certainly not lacking in talent and had his best year last year as a 23 year old.
Exactly  
lawguy9801 : 3/13/2019 10:07 am : link
Think about it this way: if I told you the Giants traded OBJ for two first round picks and a third round pick, would all the angry fans feel better?

That is what they got. Peppers was a first round pick who the Giants supposedly were very high on.

If we end up with Peppers and, with the two picks, solid edge rusher and OL picks, it may all be worth it.
RE: Exactly  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14331590 lawguy9801 said:
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Think about it this way: if I told you the Giants traded OBJ for two first round picks and a third round pick, would all the angry fans feel better?

That is what they got. Peppers was a first round pick who the Giants supposedly were very high on.

If we end up with Peppers and, with the two picks, solid edge rusher and OL picks, it may all be worth it.


Agree.
Depends...  
Chris in Philly : 3/13/2019 10:11 am : link
If you asked us two days ago you’re say he is a fine player - very athletic for a safety and a skilled return man. But today he’s apparently Ed Reed.
RE: Depends...  
Mr. Bungle : 3/13/2019 10:15 am : link
In comment 14331612 Chris in Philly said:
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If you asked us two days ago you’re say he is a fine player - very athletic for a safety and a skilled return man. But today he’s apparently Ed Reed.

Who's calling him Ed Reed?
RE: Bettcher gets his Swiss Army Backer  
Pan-handler : 3/13/2019 10:29 am : link
In comment 14331137 j_rud said:
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I watched the Browns quite a bit last year and he had some really solid games. Young and ascending. There was a Saturday night game last year (against Denver maybe?) where he had a pick in the endzone and a sack to seal the win. Instantly improves the talent level on the D.


Ascending player and Im assuming strong character guy?
He seems more versatile than particularly good at anything  
Heisenberg : 3/13/2019 10:31 am : link
Not a blue chipper, but I'd bet a good DC can find ways to make him really useful.
Thanks Fred  
BigBlue in Keys : 3/13/2019 11:28 am : link
I was wondering the same thing. At least puts some talent back on the defense.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/13/2019 11:29 am : link
Good athlete, but he hasn't made many plays on the football in his first two years in the NFL.
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giants#1 : 3/13/2019 11:30 am : link
In comment 14332093 Eric from BBI said:
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Good athlete, but he hasn't made many plays on the football in his first two years in the NFL.


He should have no trouble matching Collins' production the last 2 years then!
He is a perfect fit  
mittenedman : 3/13/2019 11:30 am : link
for Bettcher's D.

Gregg Williams runs a much different scheme and does not use his S's like Bettcher does.

If you look at Jabrill's profile - he played 16 different positions at Michigan. That is exactly the kind of player Bettcher wants. He's all about disguising and having everyone on the field capable of doing anything at any time.
RE: Glossed over is right!  
Fred-in-Florida : 3/13/2019 11:44 am : link
In comment 14331096 richinpa said:
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He was a #1 pick. So we really got 2 number 1's

Not where we wanted but overall value is good and fits a need without drafting a player that we HOPE is good from college

He was fifth in Heisman voting too so no slouch
Local guy who went to Don Bosco prep

from what i have read he played well second half of the season for the browns


Yeah! I remember him at Michigan now that you bring up the Heisman! He was pretty good it's not often a Defensive player gets Heisman consideration.
RE: RE: Glossed over is right!  
FJ : 3/13/2019 11:47 am : link
In comment 14331119 Mr. Bungle said:
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In comment 14331096 richinpa said:


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Local guy who went to Don Bosco prep


He went to Paramus Catholic.

Both correct. Started at Don Bosco, finished at Paramus Catholic.
Yes he’s a solid player  
djm : 3/13/2019 11:48 am : link
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I'm really excited about Peppers  
PatersonPlank : 3/13/2019 11:50 am : link
Loved him at Michigan
He’s a Michigan Man!  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 3/13/2019 11:50 am : link
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