But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
Lol - they're probably about to undo all of the good they just did.
It is a move completely incompatible with trading OBJ, but this team's recent history is to be overly conservative and focused on PR ahead of football. When you look at it that way, an Eli extension makes perfect sense.
Those of us holding out hope for intelligent football moves and sadly no longer expecting them.
But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
thanks jt, keep it coming buddy. I just don't know who is left out there in free agency that even makes this a discussion. Unless they are trading picks for players...which goes against the roster stocking idea. Ugh...I just want to see the Giants win again, is that so wrong?
But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
Wonderful, more evidence that the Giants are run by delusional clowns.
But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
jt, I think you and I have been on the same page all year. Eager to see if that has carried over.
Britt....we've had our disagreements but you've been on the money with this stuff....moreso than anyone else. Wiill you be willing to guess as the the years/numbers? 2 more years with a slight raise seem about right?
has dwindled with age and other life stuff that's more important...
but I have some serious anxiety right now. I think it's because after calming down last night, I took peace in the idea that we had just hit rock bottom and it was time to start building in the right direction.
So I'm caught off guard. I'm also highly over-caffeinated today.
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
RE: And to be clear, I do expect the Giants are extending Eli Â
It is a move completely incompatible with trading OBJ, but this team's recent history is to be overly conservative and focused on PR ahead of football. When you look at it that way, an Eli extension makes perfect sense.
Those of us holding out hope for intelligent football moves and sadly no longer expecting them.
More losing coming up. I hope those that will enjoy the moves that jt is referring to can savor those feelings through the winter, because this is the best of Giants football they're going to have for quite some time.
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
Never stop being you!
Looks like I hit a nerve already. Well, that was easy.
But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
jt, I think you and I have been on the same page all year. Eager to see if that has carried over.
Britt....we've had our disagreements but you've been on the money with this stuff....moreso than anyone else. Wiill you be willing to guess as the the years/numbers? 2 more years with a slight raise seem about right?
I would guess one year extension. No idea on numbers.
RE: Shouldn't some of you be at Modell's picking up your Â
You should expect to see Eli extended and a waive of high priced free agents signed this afternoon. And then you should expect that this team will be bad for many more years to come.
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
You should expect to see Eli extended and a waive of high priced free agents signed this afternoon. And then you should expect that this team will be bad for many more years to come.
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
This is so f-cked up that it makes me wonder this...
Did Eli go into Gettleman's office, knowing they wanted to keep him, but with this demand - it's either me or OBJ. What say you?
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
You are one slow fella, crick. You ever heard of sarcasm? Christ almighty.
But I still don't know if this is the direction the franchise should be heading.
I wouldn't say happy. At this point I'm kind of indifferent whether it's Eli or not, but really interested to see it play out.
But the difference between me and a lot of people is I actually can see a plan, with or without Eli.
I can see how he could be a placeholder. A lot of people can't wrap their head around that.
They scream about the money. Well, the extension would reduce that money that seems to be the current issue du jour with it.
Britt, I give you credit if you can see the plan. I know we are getting ahead of ourselves as no one knows what the news is actually going to be. I just feel that this franchise is going to be no better off if they extend Eli, essentially kicking the can down the road.
But I still don't know if this is the direction the franchise should be heading.
They scream about the money. Well, the extension would reduce that money that seems to be the current issue du jour with it.
That's the one thing I disagree with you about....I don't think Mara will ever ask Eli to take a paycut, which would seem "disrespectful" to Eli. Again I really think Mara sees Eli as a son and you have to account for that when predicting what the Giants will do here.
Its gonna be a 1 year extension to reduce this years cap hit Â
You should expect to see Eli extended and a waive of high priced free agents signed this afternoon. And then you should expect that this team will be bad for many more years to come.
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
This is so f-cked up that it makes me wonder this...
Did Eli go into Gettleman's office, knowing they wanted to keep him, but with this demand - it's either me or OBJ. What say you?
No. I honestly believe they thought OBJ was under control when they gave him the contract. But the thing that I believe tripped them up was the Lil Wayne interview. I think Mara has a very hard time realizing a guy like OBJ will say a lot of stupid but ultimately harmless things, and decided he had to go.
I think much like the way the Eli benching and response was handled, it was much more about Mara's emotions than based on what made football sense.
RE: If this organization thinks we can compete in 19 with Eli... Â
Not just 2019. At LEAST into 2020, maybe even into 2021. They don't think he's lost a thing, just like Jonathan Stewart "hasn't lost a step in 10 years."
RE: Its gonna be a 1 year extension to reduce this years cap hit Â
Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
You are one slow fella, crick. You ever heard of sarcasm? Christ almighty.
Lol - they're probably about to undo all of the good they just did.
Cant wait.
Those of us holding out hope for intelligent football moves and sadly no longer expecting them.
thanks jt, keep it coming buddy. I just don't know who is left out there in free agency that even makes this a discussion. Unless they are trading picks for players...which goes against the roster stocking idea. Ugh...I just want to see the Giants win again, is that so wrong?
desir, golden, and williams today
Wonderful, more evidence that the Giants are run by delusional clowns.
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But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
jt, I think you and I have been on the same page all year. Eager to see if that has carried over.
Britt....we've had our disagreements but you've been on the money with this stuff....moreso than anyone else. Wiill you be willing to guess as the the years/numbers? 2 more years with a slight raise seem about right?
but I have some serious anxiety right now. I think it's because after calming down last night, I took peace in the idea that we had just hit rock bottom and it was time to start building in the right direction.
So I'm caught off guard. I'm also highly over-caffeinated today.
Now I feel an impending sense of serious doom.
Those of us holding out hope for intelligent football moves and sadly no longer expecting them.
More losing coming up. I hope those that will enjoy the moves that jt is referring to can savor those feelings through the winter, because this is the best of Giants football they're going to have for quite some time.
Never stop being you!
JFC.
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Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
Never stop being you!
Looks like I hit a nerve already. Well, that was easy.
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But you guys are getting this all wrong. The Giants DONT agree with the narrative that this team is in complete rebuild mode. Th e y LOVE peppers. They aren't looking at the rest of this off-season in the same vein as most here. Right wrong or indifferent. Buckle up kids. Those unhappy now.......maybe unhappy later
jt, I think you and I have been on the same page all year. Eager to see if that has carried over.
Britt....we've had our disagreements but you've been on the money with this stuff....moreso than anyone else. Wiill you be willing to guess as the the years/numbers? 2 more years with a slight raise seem about right?
I would guess one year extension. No idea on numbers.
Why? Watching the Giants suck for yet another season will be more than enough for most of us. No need to spend any money.
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
If the Giants continue not to overspend for mediocre talent and draft well, I will be happy.
Posters are looking at this all wrong, not surprisingly.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
I wouldn't say happy. At this point I'm kind of indifferent whether it's Eli or not, but really interested to see it play out.
But the difference between me and a lot of people is I actually can see a plan, with or without Eli.
I can see how he could be a placeholder. A lot of people can't wrap their head around that.
They scream about the money. Well, the extension would reduce that money that seems to be the current issue du jour with it.
Maybe you're too busy chasing your tail with hope that Eli's record sails below .500 because that would, what? Make you happy?
Apparently so.
That's why I call you Dismal Dave.
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But I still don't know if this is the direction the franchise should be heading.
If the Giants continue not to overspend for mediocre talent and draft well, I will be happy.
Posters are looking at this all wrong, not surprisingly.
Not overspend, but possibly extend Eli adding to next year (and future years) cap is smart?
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
This is so f-cked up that it makes me wonder this...
Did Eli go into Gettleman's office, knowing they wanted to keep him, but with this demand - it's either me or OBJ. What say you?
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Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
You are one slow fella, crick. You ever heard of sarcasm? Christ almighty.
Maybe you're too busy chasing your tail with hope that Eli's record sails below .500 because that would, what? Make you happy?
Apparently so.
And that’s why I call you Cunty Chris. So, we’re all goodbye here.
That's why I call you Dismal Dave.
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But I still don't know if this is the direction the franchise should be heading.
I wouldn't say happy. At this point I'm kind of indifferent whether it's Eli or not, but really interested to see it play out.
But the difference between me and a lot of people is I actually can see a plan, with or without Eli.
I can see how he could be a placeholder. A lot of people can't wrap their head around that.
They scream about the money. Well, the extension would reduce that money that seems to be the current issue du jour with it.
Britt, I give you credit if you can see the plan. I know we are getting ahead of ourselves as no one knows what the news is actually going to be. I just feel that this franchise is going to be no better off if they extend Eli, essentially kicking the can down the road.
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But I still don't know if this is the direction the franchise should be heading.
They scream about the money. Well, the extension would reduce that money that seems to be the current issue du jour with it.
That's the one thing I disagree with you about....I don't think Mara will ever ask Eli to take a paycut, which would seem "disrespectful" to Eli. Again I really think Mara sees Eli as a son and you have to account for that when predicting what the Giants will do here.
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You should expect to see Eli extended and a waive of high priced free agents signed this afternoon. And then you should expect that this team will be bad for many more years to come.
I spent decades being frustrated that the Islanders were run by a pack to rotating clowns. Just as they bring in some adults to take over, the Giants take over for them.
Don't be surprised if Gettleman's successor as GM isn't Alex Tanney.
This is so f-cked up that it makes me wonder this...
Did Eli go into Gettleman's office, knowing they wanted to keep him, but with this demand - it's either me or OBJ. What say you?
No. I honestly believe they thought OBJ was under control when they gave him the contract. But the thing that I believe tripped them up was the Lil Wayne interview. I think Mara has a very hard time realizing a guy like OBJ will say a lot of stupid but ultimately harmless things, and decided he had to go.
I think much like the way the Eli benching and response was handled, it was much more about Mara's emotions than based on what made football sense.
Not just 2019. At LEAST into 2020, maybe even into 2021. They don't think he's lost a thing, just like Jonathan Stewart "hasn't lost a step in 10 years."
I'll be you a dollar he gets a raise. No way Mara disrespects him by asking him to take a reduced salary in 2020.
Well that is just dumb because cutting Eli creates the most cap space.
What a fuckin ride...
Stop w the Rosen nonsense. Not Happening
17, 37, 95 will be some combo of WR, ER, OL.
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
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Why would anyone be more mad? Eli retiring with a sub .599 career record is going to be HILARIOUS and something that no one will ever let him live down. It will come up in the same breath as his SB wins.
I thought you were getting on fans the other day for being "happy" that Eli may finish his career below .500?
Now you describe it as hilarious? Maybe I am missing something.
You are one slow fella, crick. You ever heard of sarcasm? Christ almighty.
Can't say that I have. I'll look it up.
Thanks
Just shoot me.
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
The meltdown here if we’re extending Eli will be a sight to see
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
These guys are clueless.
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
I really think you are right - this is the plan this band of fools has hatched.
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It's pretty obvious where this is going...
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
The meltdown here if we’re extending Eli will be a sight to see
Can't wait.
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It's pretty obvious where this is going...
Eli is getting another year.
They're going to try and spread the cap space, reduce the hit this year, add FA's and here we go again...
I was really hoping this wouldn't be the direction, but it looks like it's going to be. Oh well.
The meltdown here if we’re extending Eli will be a sight to see
I'll probably take the rest of the week off from BBI when the bomb drops.