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jtgiants : 3/13/2019 9:20 am
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if the plan was to make a run with a 38 year old qb  
Heisenberg : 3/13/2019 12:45 pm : link
then accumulating 12 picks in this draft by trading starters is a strange approach.
And to Repeat Myself  
Lambuth_Special : 3/13/2019 12:48 pm : link
If the Giants want to have Eli start and Play out his contract in 2019, I can see SOME logic in doing it even if I disagree, because there are a number of examples of QBs playing well at 38.

It's the extension that is foolish, because there are few examples of QBs playing well past age 38.
Forget about Rosen  
JonC : 3/13/2019 12:48 pm : link
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Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
Britt in VA : 3/13/2019 12:48 pm : link
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RE: Forget about Rosen  
figgy2989 : 3/13/2019 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14332699 JonC said:
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Two solid asshats saying no on Rosen. Let's just hope there is more news then an extension for Eli.
RE: Forget about Rosen  
Tesla : 3/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14332699 JonC said:
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Any thoughts on an Eli extension prior to Sunday?
RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14332701 Britt in VA said:
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yes. No? Maybe?
I'm going to get sloshed tonight if we  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
extend Eli.
RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
bigbluehoya : 3/13/2019 12:50 pm : link
In comment 14332701 Britt in VA said:
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we've seen this movie before

--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
Maybe  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2019 12:53 pm : link
Tyrell Williams and the big fatso RT?
RE: RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 12:53 pm : link
In comment 14332713 bigbluehoya said:
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we've seen this movie before

--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'


LOL. This!
RE: RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/13/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14332713 bigbluehoya said:
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we've seen this movie before

--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'


LOLOL
RE: RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
Britt in VA : 3/13/2019 12:54 pm : link
In comment 14332713 bigbluehoya said:
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we've seen this movie before

--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'

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RE: Forget about Rosen  
Giants38 : 3/13/2019 1:01 pm : link
In comment 14332699 JonC said:
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.

At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.

I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
RE: RE: Forget about Rosen  
Lambuth_Special : 3/13/2019 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14332760 Giants38 said:
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.

At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.

I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.


The "making bad moves to own BBI posters" strategy.
RE: RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we?  
Mike from Ohio : 3/13/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14332713 bigbluehoya said:
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we've seen this movie before

--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'


Perfect summary.
Don't worry....  
Britt in VA : 3/13/2019 1:07 pm : link
one of these days, if you keep predicting the same thing year after year, it will finally happen.
Lets get back to JT for a second  
dep026 : 3/13/2019 1:07 pm : link
he said "lots" - so is there more than Eli getting an extension? Williams signing? We are recouping the 2nd rounder from the Shockey trade?

You cant tease us anymore!!!
'yesterday certainly wasn't fun for us'...  
Torrag : 3/13/2019 1:07 pm : link
Sorry but it was for many of us. I was done with Bckham after the lifting the leg deal and it never got any better. The same is true of most of our circle of Giants fans which admittedly doesn't include many millenials...thank God.
tyrell williams is not good  
GiantsFan84 : 3/13/2019 1:08 pm : link
it better not be him
tyrell williams is not good  
Torrag : 3/13/2019 1:10 pm : link
Actually he is a 'good' player. Not great but solid. It would depend on the contract.
RE: RE: Forget about Rosen  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14332760 Giants38 said:
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.

At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.

I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.


To be fair - I think Mara has probably been a bit TOO sensitive to the common Giant fans wants and wishes - and thats part of what the problem was to begin with.

Gettleman seems to be fine playing bad cop if need be.

I think it's time to stop worrying about the fans and build the team the right way.
RE: Don't worry....  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2019 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14332784 Britt in VA said:
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one of these days, if you keep predicting the same thing year after year, it will finally happen.


Unless you're predicting a successful season for the Giants, because there isn't going to be another one of those for quite some time.
RE: tyrell williams is not good  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 1:11 pm : link
In comment 14332804 Torrag said:
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Actually he is a 'good' player. Not great but solid. It would depend on the contract.


Yes, he's pretty good.
RE: tyrell williams is not good  
Anakim : 3/13/2019 1:11 pm : link
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it better not be him


Huh? He's by far the best WR on the open market and he proves much needed size.
RE: GARY!!! Get Ready!  
AcidTest : 3/13/2019 1:11 pm : link
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LOL.
Why can't people understand that if they thought Rosen was the  
jlukes : 3/13/2019 1:12 pm : link
long term franchise QB they were looking for, they would have drafted him at 2 last year. Plain and simple.
Tyrell  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 3/13/2019 1:13 pm : link
is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.

He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
RE: RE: Don't worry....  
bigbluehoya : 3/13/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14332808 Greg from LI said:
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one of these days, if you keep predicting the same thing year after year, it will finally happen.



Unless you're predicting a successful season for the Giants, because there isn't going to be another one of those for quite some time.


being right about what they should do >>>>> being right about what they actually do
are we expecting something minor  
blueblood : 3/13/2019 1:14 pm : link
or major ?
. . .  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 1:17 pm : link
RE: Tyrell  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 1:18 pm : link
In comment 14332821 ManningLobsItBurressAlone said:
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is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.

He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.


Keenen Allen is a target hog.

Williams often produced when he was given looks.

He's a good player.
My  
AcidTest : 3/13/2019 1:18 pm : link
guess is one or both of Eli and Zeitler will be restructured, freeing up money that will then be used to sign one or two FAs. Extending Eli probably reduces the chance of taking a QB this year.
RE: RE: tyrell williams is not good  
Amtoft : 3/13/2019 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14332813 Anakim said:
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it better not be him



Huh? He's by far the best WR on the open market and he proves much needed size.


I have to go with Golden Tate as the best WR, but he is more of a slot guy so I am guessing you mean outside WRs.
This waiting is tiring...  
GFAN52 : 3/13/2019 1:21 pm : link
RE: RE: Tyrell  
ManningLobsItBurressAlone : 3/13/2019 1:23 pm : link
In comment 14332843 arcarsenal said:
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is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.

He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.



Keenen Allen is a target hog.

Williams often produced when he was given looks.

He's a good player.


He's a good player, but he's not a player to commit $10M+ annually as a top target WR.

Look at his 2016 numbers when Keenan Allen missed the entire season with the kidney laceration. Only 3 games above 100 yards. This is my fear. We try and make up for the lost OBJ production by grossly overpaying marginal players. Tyrell this year, SS's extension next year. Screams to me like the Yanks letting Cano go, and trying to replace him with Ells.
Game Log - ( New Window )
I assume  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2019 1:24 pm : link
Nothing is heard until 4pm
back to what else NYG could be doing...  
bigbluehoya : 3/13/2019 1:26 pm : link
If they don't feel like rebuilders...

then isn't the timing of the OBJ trade and (potential) Eli restructure/extend way off?

Free agency is 80% over before it starts these days...weren't these moves for like 2 weeks ago if they were really about freeing up capacity to field a good team in 2019?

Don't get me wrong -- I'd rather just bank as much of the space as possible rather than spend on 2019, but something about the timing of it all just doesn't seem to gel with the idea that they feel like competitive winners for 2019.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 1:28 pm : link
In 2016 he managed 69 catches for 1059 and 7 scores in 12 starts. His overall body of work was really solid for a guy who was thrust into duty a bit prematurely. He was actually better this past year, the numbers just aren't as good because he saw less looks. But he did more with them.

He's definitely had boom or bust weeks - he has some TY Hilton in him in that regard, but if we're looking at what's out there - he's probably the guy to go after. Ascending player, still young.

It's slim pickings out there. We are definitely going to need to draft someone.
Williams is not exciting. That would undersell the OP and Hanlon  
Heisenberg : 3/13/2019 1:30 pm : link
greatly.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 1:31 pm : link
No, he's not - and not what OP is alluding to I'm sure - but good doesn't always have to be exciting .
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Britt in VA : 3/13/2019 1:32 pm : link
In comment 14332898 arcarsenal said:
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No, he's not - and not what OP is alluding to I'm sure - but good doesn't always have to be exciting .


We actually need a lot of "good" and less "exciting" right now.

But I'll take both, please!
If Eli gets restructured, then maybe they are looking at 2020  
Bill L : 3/13/2019 1:32 pm : link
(I hope so) and then will still implement the mythical Mahomes model.

Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).

How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...
I'm not Sure an Eli Extension Could be Coded as Exciting Either  
Lambuth_Special : 3/13/2019 1:33 pm : link
Except for like 10 fans at this point.
Tyrell Williams averages 15+ yards a catch  
Go Terps : 3/13/2019 1:34 pm : link
If you're looking for a guy to stretch the field so that Engram and Barkley can operate as receivers underneath, he's not a bad option to do that.

Would have to see the cost, though. These FA deals have been ridiculously overpriced.
Extension would be exciting in the sense that folks will be  
Heisenberg : 3/13/2019 1:34 pm : link
andgy, red faced and flecks of spittle will cover their phones and monitors.
Eli ...No  
Thegratefulhead : 3/13/2019 1:35 pm : link
I really hope that extending Eli is not the news. Not because I didn't get my way, but because I think it would be awful for the franchise. If they do, I hope we win and make the playoffs but our roster doesn't match up well with the rest of the division.
RE: If Eli gets restructured, then maybe they are looking at 2020  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14332905 Bill L said:
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(I hope so) and then will still implement the mythical Mahomes model.

Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).

How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...


Nothing like waiting til year 4 of Barkley to finally pair him with your next QB for a full season.

Also who is trading a potential #1 WR for a 30+ corner with a $15 million cap hit?
RE: Tyrell Williams averages 15+ yards a catch  
arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14332912 Go Terps said:
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If you're looking for a guy to stretch the field so that Engram and Barkley can operate as receivers underneath, he's not a bad option to do that.

Would have to see the cost, though. These FA deals have been ridiculously overpriced.


Spotrac has his market value @ 9.8M per - my guess is he gets like 3-4 years. If we can get him close to market value and not grossly overpay, I'd like it.
Oh btw  
Joey in VA : 3/13/2019 1:41 pm : link
I am swinging wildly based on jtgiants saying we don't believe we're rebuilding. I still think we absolutely are.
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