If the Giants want to have Eli start and Play out his contract in 2019, I can see SOME logic in doing it even if I disagree, because there are a number of examples of QBs playing well at 38.
It's the extension that is foolish, because there are few examples of QBs playing well past age 38.
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
LOL. This!
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--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
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--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
The "making bad moves to own BBI posters" strategy.
RE: RE: Guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens, won't we? Â
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
Sorry but it was for many of us. I was done with Bckham after the lifting the leg deal and it never got any better. The same is true of most of our circle of Giants fans which admittedly doesn't include many millenials...thank God.
Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
To be fair - I think Mara has probably been a bit TOO sensitive to the common Giant fans wants and wishes - and thats part of what the problem was to begin with.
Gettleman seems to be fine playing bad cop if need be.
I think it's time to stop worrying about the fans and build the team the right way.
is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
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is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
guess is one or both of Eli and Zeitler will be restructured, freeing up money that will then be used to sign one or two FAs. Extending Eli probably reduces the chance of taking a QB this year.
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is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
Keenen Allen is a target hog.
Williams often produced when he was given looks.
He's a good player.
He's a good player, but he's not a player to commit $10M+ annually as a top target WR.
Look at his 2016 numbers when Keenan Allen missed the entire season with the kidney laceration. Only 3 games above 100 yards. This is my fear. We try and make up for the lost OBJ production by grossly overpaying marginal players. Tyrell this year, SS's extension next year. Screams to me like the Yanks letting Cano go, and trying to replace him with Ells. Game Log - ( New Window )
then isn't the timing of the OBJ trade and (potential) Eli restructure/extend way off?
Free agency is 80% over before it starts these days...weren't these moves for like 2 weeks ago if they were really about freeing up capacity to field a good team in 2019?
Don't get me wrong -- I'd rather just bank as much of the space as possible rather than spend on 2019, but something about the timing of it all just doesn't seem to gel with the idea that they feel like competitive winners for 2019.
In 2016 he managed 69 catches for 1059 and 7 scores in 12 starts. His overall body of work was really solid for a guy who was thrust into duty a bit prematurely. He was actually better this past year, the numbers just aren't as good because he saw less looks. But he did more with them.
He's definitely had boom or bust weeks - he has some TY Hilton in him in that regard, but if we're looking at what's out there - he's probably the guy to go after. Ascending player, still young.
It's slim pickings out there. We are definitely going to need to draft someone.
Williams is not exciting. That would undersell the OP and Hanlon Â
I really hope that extending Eli is not the news. Not because I didn't get my way, but because I think it would be awful for the franchise. If they do, I hope we win and make the playoffs but our roster doesn't match up well with the rest of the division.
RE: If Eli gets restructured, then maybe they are looking at 2020 Â
If you're looking for a guy to stretch the field so that Engram and Barkley can operate as receivers underneath, he's not a bad option to do that.
Would have to see the cost, though. These FA deals have been ridiculously overpriced.
Spotrac has his market value @ 9.8M per - my guess is he gets like 3-4 years. If we can get him close to market value and not grossly overpay, I'd like it.
It's the extension that is foolish, because there are few examples of QBs playing well past age 38.
Two solid asshats saying no on Rosen. Let's just hope there is more news then an extension for Eli.
Any thoughts on an Eli extension prior to Sunday?
we've seen this movie before
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
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we've seen this movie before
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
LOL. This!
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we've seen this movie before
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
LOLOL
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we've seen this movie before
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
The "making bad moves to own BBI posters" strategy.
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we've seen this movie before
--> you'll be right --> everyone freaks out, rightly --> you say 'nailed it' --> Giants suck --> everyone freaks out --> you say 'nailed it' --> everyone sad --> you say 'nailed it'
Perfect summary.
You cant tease us anymore!!!
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Is it me, or is that inside info we receive overwhelmingly negative? Don’t get me wrong; I like the info. Maybe it’s because we want things and the info just quashes it. But it’s we want Rosen - too bad no. No extension for Eli - well, you’re getting 5 more years of him. This team is rebuilding - no they’re not.
At some point, it would be great to see, we want a trade up for Murray - guess what, you’re actually getting that.
I look forward to that day. I hope I live to see it.
To be fair - I think Mara has probably been a bit TOO sensitive to the common Giant fans wants and wishes - and thats part of what the problem was to begin with.
Gettleman seems to be fine playing bad cop if need be.
I think it's time to stop worrying about the fans and build the team the right way.
Unless you're predicting a successful season for the Giants, because there isn't going to be another one of those for quite some time.
Yes, he's pretty good.
Huh? He's by far the best WR on the open market and he proves much needed size.
LOL.
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
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one of these days, if you keep predicting the same thing year after year, it will finally happen.
Unless you're predicting a successful season for the Giants, because there isn't going to be another one of those for quite some time.
being right about what they should do >>>>> being right about what they actually do
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
Keenen Allen is a target hog.
Williams often produced when he was given looks.
He's a good player.
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it better not be him
Huh? He's by far the best WR on the open market and he proves much needed size.
I have to go with Golden Tate as the best WR, but he is more of a slot guy so I am guessing you mean outside WRs.
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is also going to command over 10M annually. After trading OBJ and committing to him as the #1 at that cost? John Brown got 3 for 27, Funchess got a 1 year deal at 13M. Don't want any part of him at that price.
He had 11 games last year where had under 50 yards. Yes, I know he was the #2/3 WR there, but that's not inspiring any confidence in me.
Keenen Allen is a target hog.
Williams often produced when he was given looks.
He's a good player.
He's a good player, but he's not a player to commit $10M+ annually as a top target WR.
Look at his 2016 numbers when Keenan Allen missed the entire season with the kidney laceration. Only 3 games above 100 yards. This is my fear. We try and make up for the lost OBJ production by grossly overpaying marginal players. Tyrell this year, SS's extension next year. Screams to me like the Yanks letting Cano go, and trying to replace him with Ells.
Game Log - ( New Window )
then isn't the timing of the OBJ trade and (potential) Eli restructure/extend way off?
Free agency is 80% over before it starts these days...weren't these moves for like 2 weeks ago if they were really about freeing up capacity to field a good team in 2019?
Don't get me wrong -- I'd rather just bank as much of the space as possible rather than spend on 2019, but something about the timing of it all just doesn't seem to gel with the idea that they feel like competitive winners for 2019.
He's definitely had boom or bust weeks - he has some TY Hilton in him in that regard, but if we're looking at what's out there - he's probably the guy to go after. Ascending player, still young.
It's slim pickings out there. We are definitely going to need to draft someone.
We actually need a lot of "good" and less "exciting" right now.
But I'll take both, please!
Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).
How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...
Would have to see the cost, though. These FA deals have been ridiculously overpriced.
Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).
How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...
Nothing like waiting til year 4 of Barkley to finally pair him with your next QB for a full season.
Also who is trading a potential #1 WR for a 30+ corner with a $15 million cap hit?
Would have to see the cost, though. These FA deals have been ridiculously overpriced.
Spotrac has his market value @ 9.8M per - my guess is he gets like 3-4 years. If we can get him close to market value and not grossly overpay, I'd like it.