(I hope so) and then will still implement the mythical Mahomes model.
Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).
How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...
Nothing like waiting til year 4 of Barkley to finally pair him with your next QB for a full season.
Also who is trading a potential #1 WR for a 30+ corner with a $15 million cap hit?
True, it is a long wait. But then again I want a good QB after Eli. Not just the any QB will do guy that many here want. And, I wold be just as happy to go with Lauletta for a season while waiting for someone good. And re the trade, I was asking; I don't know. But that's our last available trade chit and a new glaring need. SO just some musing.
One possible cheap option is to trade for John Ross from Cincy
If we're simply talking about getting a guy to just run "9" routes to occupy a safety so that Barkley, Engram, and hopefully drafted TE can operate underneath, it might not be something that we have to spend a lot on.
Ross isn't a great player, but he's fast. This is where Shurmur's ability to design an offense would come in.
Hockenson would definitely be a target for me. I'd want to pair him with Ellison as the TEs on the line, and use Engram as a Swiss Army knife.
I wrote about him on one of the other threads. If the Giants are going to feature more of a running game, then go out and get TEs who are matchup problems for smaller DBs and too fast for safeties. Engram isn't much of a blocker (maybe "willing" at best), but Hockenson is getting looked at by the Patriots which is enough for me to pay attention. Using #17 on him and going to more 2 TE sets in which the Giants can be dangerous both running and passing, taking advantage of Barkley's two way abilities, and a better offensive line, the Giants could find a new wrinkle in the age of the 4 WRs.
Desir back to Indy. Scratch two possible moves off the list.
I don't really want either of those guys. The Giants can find a WR with one of their many mid round picks. As Sy and others have said, why overpay for a free agent now when you can just pick one and get the same production (and develop them).
Hockenson would definitely be a target for me. I'd want to pair him with Ellison as the TEs on the line, and use Engram as a Swiss Army knife.
I wrote about him on one of the other threads. If the Giants are going to feature more of a running game, then go out and get TEs who are matchup problems for smaller DBs and too fast for safeties. Engram isn't much of a blocker (maybe "willing" at best), but Hockenson is getting looked at by the Patriots which is enough for me to pay attention. Using #17 on him and going to more 2 TE sets in which the Giants can be dangerous both running and passing, taking advantage of Barkley's two way abilities, and a better offensive line, the Giants could find a new wrinkle in the age of the 4 WRs.
All onboard with Hock at 17 and operating out of mostly 2 and 3 TE sets. If you're going to run a Barkley-centric offense, that's the way to do it. They're missing a true pass threat from TE that can actually block though, so Hockenson would be key.
but i think if you go for him, you unload engram. i think he's more valuable in a trade than for the giants. he played less than half the snaps last year in the games he played. if they can unload in exchange for a good pick and grab the Iowa TE who is a true two way TE i think that would optimal
but i think if you go for him, you unload engram. i think he's more valuable in a trade than for the giants. he played less than half the snaps last year in the games he played. if they can unload in exchange for a good pick and grab the Iowa TE who is a true two way TE i think that would optimal
Drafting Hockenson is more of a reason to keep Engram. Think Pats earlier this decade with Gronk and Hernandez.
but i think if you go for him, you unload engram. i think he's more valuable in a trade than for the giants. he played less than half the snaps last year in the games he played. if they can unload in exchange for a good pick and grab the Iowa TE who is a true two way TE i think that would optimal
The Eagles traded up in the 2nd round last year to draft Dallas Goedert despite having Zach Ertz at TE. TE's are a young QB's best friends and if the Giants intend to take one this year or next then I would be happy with adding a good two way TE to allow Engram to split out wide more frequently.
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I must admit I fucking dying for information today. Most I have ever been on this site. Equally excited and apprehensive. I just wish whatever they announce gives us some hope.
Think its gonna be nothing MAJOR? Lol. I really want it to be something worth all this hype, but Im not gonna get my hopes up. But we need some good news.
Think its gonna be nothing MAJOR? Lol. I really want it to be something worth all this hype, but Im not gonna get my hopes up. But we need some good news.
I believe for sure there will be movement. The breath and scope will be in the eye of the beholder.
I was told we have multiple balls in the air. They expected at least 2 of them to work out today but these things are never an exact science until there officially handled. Well see. What I can say is what I posted earlier is true. The Giants aren't throwing in the towel on the season. Not happening
I was told we have multiple balls in the air. They expected at least 2 of them to work out today but these things are never an exact science until there officially handled. Well see. What I can say is what I posted earlier is true. The Giants aren't throwing in the towel on the season. Not happening
Eli holding out for "Aaron Rodgers" money. Sites Superbowl victories and acting ability.
Gettleman typing un fake computer is unable to come up with stats to argue with him.
They are at an uncomfortable stalemate involving Gettleman saying "I'll get rid of anyone" (Eli not listening instead reading emotionally supportive texts from Mara who is listening from the next room)
I was told we have multiple balls in the air. They expected at least 2 of them to work out today but these things are never an exact science until there officially handled. Well see. What I can say is what I posted earlier is true. The Giants aren't throwing in the towel on the season. Not happening
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Daryl Williams and somebody else signed elsewhere
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(I hope so) and then will still implement the mythical Mahomes model.
Maybe the couple it with a Zeitler restructure. Somehow though, I don't see them needing a ton of money this year (other than RT).
How about Jackrabbit for a young, controlled (potential #1) WR? Anyone available? I know it would leave them one more corner short, but still...
Nothing like waiting til year 4 of Barkley to finally pair him with your next QB for a full season.
Also who is trading a potential #1 WR for a 30+ corner with a $15 million cap hit?
True, it is a long wait. But then again I want a good QB after Eli. Not just the any QB will do guy that many here want. And, I wold be just as happy to go with Lauletta for a season while waiting for someone good. And re the trade, I was asking; I don't know. But that's our last available trade chit and a new glaring need. SO just some musing.
Ross isn't a great player, but he's fast. This is where Shurmur's ability to design an offense would come in.
Hockenson would definitely be a target for me. I'd want to pair him with Ellison as the TEs on the line, and use Engram as a Swiss Army knife.
It sure looks like it. Perhaps not down to the absolute nuts and bolts while Eli's still here, but they've been ripping up the roster for a year.
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Hockenson would definitely be a target for me. I'd want to pair him with Ellison as the TEs on the line, and use Engram as a Swiss Army knife.
I wrote about him on one of the other threads. If the Giants are going to feature more of a running game, then go out and get TEs who are matchup problems for smaller DBs and too fast for safeties. Engram isn't much of a blocker (maybe "willing" at best), but Hockenson is getting looked at by the Patriots which is enough for me to pay attention. Using #17 on him and going to more 2 TE sets in which the Giants can be dangerous both running and passing, taking advantage of Barkley's two way abilities, and a better offensive line, the Giants could find a new wrinkle in the age of the 4 WRs.
Desir back to Indy. Scratch two possible moves off the list.
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Desir back to Indy. Scratch two possible moves off the list.
I don't really want either of those guys. The Giants can find a WR with one of their many mid round picks. As Sy and others have said, why overpay for a free agent now when you can just pick one and get the same production (and develop them).
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Hockenson would definitely be a target for me. I'd want to pair him with Ellison as the TEs on the line, and use Engram as a Swiss Army knife.
I wrote about him on one of the other threads. If the Giants are going to feature more of a running game, then go out and get TEs who are matchup problems for smaller DBs and too fast for safeties. Engram isn't much of a blocker (maybe "willing" at best), but Hockenson is getting looked at by the Patriots which is enough for me to pay attention. Using #17 on him and going to more 2 TE sets in which the Giants can be dangerous both running and passing, taking advantage of Barkley's two way abilities, and a better offensive line, the Giants could find a new wrinkle in the age of the 4 WRs.
Agree...Bavaro 2.0
Seems like its not Rosen, and Wilson seems farfetched..
Not sure if a Eli extension is "fun"
Drafting Hockenson is more of a reason to keep Engram. Think Pats earlier this decade with Gronk and Hernandez.
Seems like its not Rosen, and Wilson seems farfetched..
Not sure if a Eli extension is "fun"
I guess it would be fun if you enjoyed triggering fans that don't want him to remain QB beyond 2019...which would probably be a majority.
I mean, if you can't succeed at winning, might as well pivot to trolling your own fanbase.
The Eagles traded up in the 2nd round last year to draft Dallas Goedert despite having Zach Ertz at TE. TE's are a young QB's best friends and if the Giants intend to take one this year or next then I would be happy with adding a good two way TE to allow Engram to split out wide more frequently.
jt would have some 'splainin to do
Thats the thing with Elis extension... we didnt need to wait until 4 to get it done. Unless we were waiting for Gettleman to finish dinner first 😂
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Amazing how Eli is becoming the villain now. Radio was a mess today, still is.
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I believe for sure there will be movement. The breath and scope will be in the eye of the beholder.
Well the Beckham trade did come out at 8:00 PM.
There's still plenty of time for BBI to have back-to-back meltdown days.
trying to get situated for the big surprise....kidding...
Trades of FA signings? Can you elaborate a tad?
Gettleman typing un fake computer is unable to come up with stats to argue with him.
They are at an uncomfortable stalemate involving Gettleman saying "I'll get rid of anyone" (Eli not listening instead reading emotionally supportive texts from Mara who is listening from the next room)
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Daryl Williams and somebody else signed elsewhere