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Kim Jones: Thinks Giants would have cut OV if not traded

Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/13/2019 10:44 am
Kimberly Jones
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11m11 minutes ago

At 4 pm, #NYG & #CLE trades will be handled as one deal & will become official.
NYG get: G Kevin Zeitler, S Jabrill Peppers, 2019 1st-round pick (17), 2019 3rd-round pick (95).
CLE: OBJ, Olivier Vernon.
(I’m under impression NYG would have cut OV, so they won THAT part of trade.)
Does it even matter?  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2019 10:45 am : link
We could have (should have) insisted on Zeitler in the Beckham trade too
I would hope so. He fucking sucked.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/13/2019 10:45 am : link
Eli should be next.
#BECKXIT  
Jints in Carolina : 3/13/2019 10:47 am : link
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Well, yes.  
George from PA : 3/13/2019 10:47 am : link
I believe cap hit from cutting OV would have been far worse
Sadly, Vernon  
mrvax : 3/13/2019 10:47 am : link
was always injured. Even when he played he was nursing an injury.
RE: #BECKXIT  
j_rud : 3/13/2019 10:48 am : link
In comment 14331800 Jints in Carolina said:
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*golf clap*
Fucking Gettleman  
BlueHurricane : 3/13/2019 10:49 am : link
Getting a stud lineman for a guy he was cutting.

WTF is he doing?????
RE: Well, yes.  
jcn56 : 3/13/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14331803 George from PA said:
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I believe cap hit from cutting OV would have been far worse


Is that possible? Doesn't the rest of the guaranteed money on the contract accelerate whether via trade or cut?
RE: RE: #BECKXIT  
bradshaw44 : 3/13/2019 10:49 am : link
In comment 14331812 j_rud said:
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In comment 14331800 Jints in Carolina said:


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*golf clap*


Seconded.
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Micko : 3/13/2019 10:50 am : link
Not to mention all the cap space we get back for re-tooling next year.

Seems like a pretty reasonable deal to me.
The Browns are saying the same thing  
madeinstars : 3/13/2019 10:51 am : link
In regards to Zeitler, so it's a wash anyway.
RE: The Browns are saying the same thing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/13/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14331844 madeinstars said:
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In regards to Zeitler, so it's a wash anyway.


Not a wash in this sense: how likely would it have been that Zeitler signed here after he was free?
RE: Well, yes.  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/13/2019 10:52 am : link
In comment 14331803 George from PA said:
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I believe cap hit from cutting OV would have been far worse


Actually that’s not accurate. If we cut him we would have saved $11.5 on the cap. See link below.
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RE: The Browns are saying the same thing  
Beer Man : 3/13/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14331844 madeinstars said:
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In regards to Zeitler, so it's a wash anyway.
+1
RE: RE: Well, yes.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/13/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14331860 sb from NYT Forum said:
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In comment 14331803 George from PA said:


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I believe cap hit from cutting OV would have been far worse



Actually that’s not accurate. If we cut him we would have saved $11.5 on the cap. See link below. Link - ( New Window )


And how much of that $11.5 million would have been spent on Jamon Brown? Zeitler's $10 million hit is all salary. That can be easily reduced.
RE: RE: The Browns are saying the same thing  
BlueHurricane : 3/13/2019 10:55 am : link
In comment 14331873 Beer Man said:
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In regards to Zeitler, so it's a wash anyway.

+1


Please explain. Zeitler plays, and plays well...... Vernon doesn't.
At the end of the day it was  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2019 10:56 am : link
Vernon and Beckham for:

Kevin Zeitler
Jabrill Peppers
2019 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick
More Cap space cleared via Beckham and Zeitler
RE: RE: RE: Well, yes.  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/13/2019 10:58 am : link
In comment 14331891 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14331803 George from PA said:


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I believe cap hit from cutting OV would have been far worse



Actually that’s not accurate. If we cut him we would have saved $11.5 on the cap. See link below. Link - ( New Window )



And how much of that $11.5 million would have been spent on Jamon Brown? Zeitler's $10 million hit is all salary. That can be easily reduced.


I’m just stating facts about the cap Eric, not questioning the trade.
RE: At the end of the day it was  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 10:59 am : link
In comment 14331912 ryanmkeane said:
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Vernon and Beckham for:

Kevin Zeitler
Jabrill Peppers
2019 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick
More Cap space cleared via Beckham and Zeitler


24 million in dead money. Where exactly is the "cap savings"?
RE: RE: At the end of the day it was  
BillT : 3/13/2019 11:01 am : link
In comment 14331934 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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In comment 14331912 ryanmkeane said:


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Vernon and Beckham for:

Kevin Zeitler
Jabrill Peppers
2019 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick
More Cap space cleared via Beckham and Zeitler



24 million in dead money. Where exactly is the "cap savings"?

Cap space and dead money are different things. Try keeping up.
RE: RE: RE: At the end of the day it was  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 11:28 am : link
In comment 14331949 BillT said:
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In comment 14331912 ryanmkeane said:


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Vernon and Beckham for:

Kevin Zeitler
Jabrill Peppers
2019 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick
More Cap space cleared via Beckham and Zeitler



24 million in dead money. Where exactly is the "cap savings"?


Cap space and dead money are different things. Try keeping up.


Are you kidding me? The dead money for this year counts against the cap. That's 24 million the Giants can't use. 33.8 million in total. Approx 18% of our cap is alloted to players that are no longer on the team.
RE: RE: RE: RE: At the end of the day it was  
DonQuixote : 3/13/2019 11:50 am : link
In comment 14332088 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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In comment 14331934 Tim in Eternal Blue said:


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In comment 14331912 ryanmkeane said:


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Vernon and Beckham for:

Kevin Zeitler
Jabrill Peppers
2019 1st round pick
2019 3rd round pick
More Cap space cleared via Beckham and Zeitler



24 million in dead money. Where exactly is the "cap savings"?


Cap space and dead money are different things. Try keeping up.



Are you kidding me? The dead money for this year counts against the cap. That's 24 million the Giants can't use. 33.8 million in total. Approx 18% of our cap is alloted to players that are no longer on the team.


But that money was spent whether the player is on the team or not. Given that, any cap savings is indeed savings.
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