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Mike Francesca is Killing Me

BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/13/2019 4:54 pm
Shocked towards the end of his career and being jettisoned after winning a super bowl does not equate to trading a player in his prime.

The Giants won with Shockey on the roster!
I’ll also add the player  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/13/2019 4:55 pm : link
We received with the Saints 2nd round pick was absolutely terrible.
English translation?  
HomerJones45 : 3/13/2019 4:55 pm : link
thanks in advance
What?  
USAF NYG Fan : 3/13/2019 4:56 pm : link
??
Why even listen?  
ryanmkeane : 3/13/2019 4:56 pm : link
Mike clearly has a bias against guys who aren't Eli Manning types, same with Boomer, if you catch my drift
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2019 4:56 pm : link
Huh?
This situation really brings out the luminaries  
Go Terps : 3/13/2019 4:57 pm : link
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Danny Kanell : 3/13/2019 4:57 pm : link
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Mike's hatred of Shockey is hilarious.  
bceagle05 : 3/13/2019 4:58 pm : link
Guy never lets go of a grudge. He treats Shockey like he's a bum. He played 10 years in the league, Rookie of the Year, four Pro Bowls, at least one All-Pro, and two Super Bowl rings, including the game-winning TD in the second one, and Mike treats him like he's some kind of pity case.
Please translate  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 4:59 pm : link
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He keeps saying the Giants never won a thing with Shockey  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/13/2019 4:59 pm : link
That’s not true. They won a super bowl with him on the team. He was injured at the end of the season but he was still apart of that team.

Shockey was also well into his career at that point. Not 25 years old in his prime. The argument makes no sense.
Mara must be sitting there chewing on his fingernails  
SHO'NUFF : 3/13/2019 5:00 pm : link
listening to what Mike has to say about him.
What’s he saying  
jeff57 : 3/13/2019 5:01 pm : link
You can’t win with a big time receiver?
Francesca is a dipshit  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3/13/2019 5:02 pm : link
Why anyone would ever value his opinion or listen to his dumb ass is a mystery.

What exactly are this assholes credentials that his opinion should be valued?
RE: He keeps saying the Giants never won a thing with Shockey  
rsjem1979 : 3/13/2019 5:10 pm : link
In comment 14333940 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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That’s not true. They won a super bowl with him on the team. He was injured at the end of the season but he was still apart of that team.

Shockey was also well into his career at that point. Not 25 years old in his prime. The argument makes no sense.


2007 was the 6th year of Shockey's NFL career. He turned 27 in August.

2019 will be the 6th year of Beckham's career. He turns 27 in November.
Playoff appearances with OBJ  
djstat : 3/13/2019 5:14 pm : link
ONE

Playoff wins with OBJ - 0


Missed games by OBJ in five seasons: 21


RE: Mike's hatred of Shockey is hilarious.  
Justlurking : 3/13/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14333934 bceagle05 said:
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Guy never lets go of a grudge. He treats Shockey like he's a bum. He played 10 years in the league, Rookie of the Year, four Pro Bowls, at least one All-Pro, and two Super Bowl rings, including the game-winning TD in the second one, and Mike treats him like he's some kind of pity case.


Seriously. He had a very good career albeit not the hall of fame one he seemed destined for.
He just had a caller upset about the Odell trade.  
BBelle21 : 3/13/2019 5:18 pm : link
Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??
RE: He just had a caller upset about the Odell trade.  
BlueHurricane : 3/13/2019 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14334024 BBelle21 said:
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Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??


Judging by who is here on BBI today there are probably a shit ton who have no idea who Bavaro was.
RE: RE: He just had a caller upset about the Odell trade.  
BBelle21 : 3/13/2019 5:23 pm : link
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Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??



Judging by who is here on BBI today there are probably a shit ton who have no idea who Bavaro was.


That kind of blows my mind. I’m a young fan and while I didn’t have the privilege of watching him, I know who he is and respect him.
RE: Francesca is a dipshit  
joeinpa : 3/13/2019 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14333958 LakeGeorgeGiant said:
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Why anyone would ever value his opinion or listen to his dumb ass is a mystery.

What exactly are this assholes credentials that his opinion should be valued?


I don’t know, a pioneer in the business who revolutionized talk radio. A guy who gets most of the biggies to come on his show.

Can see why someone might not like Mike. But to discredit his accomplishments is ridiculous

To me,first guy I listen to on Giants issues.
RE: Why even listen?  
montanagiant : 3/13/2019 5:24 pm : link
In comment 14333918 ryanmkeane said:
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Mike clearly has a bias against guys who aren't Eli Manning types, same with Boomer, if you catch my drift

Boomer slams Eli more than any other QB. Wrongly for the most part
He isnt crushing the trade  
ELI THE GOAT : 3/13/2019 5:25 pm : link
Like some here. Giants tired of odells antics. Won nothing with him etc.
RE: RE: He just had a caller upset about the Odell trade.  
montanagiant : 3/13/2019 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14334037 BlueHurricane said:
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Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??



Judging by who is here on BBI today there are probably a shit ton who have no idea who Bavaro was.

if you really want some laughs go on any of the Twitter/FB boards that are full of X-Box Madden NFL fans. They are complete idiots with zero understanding of football outside of Fantasy Football
Your first mistake was being within earshot of Francessa  
jcn56 : 3/13/2019 5:27 pm : link
Your second mistake was taking any of it seriously after you heard it.

Another windbag who is more concerned with players appearing prim and proper than actually being good at playing the fucking game.
RE: RE: Why even listen?  
The 12th Man : 3/13/2019 5:27 pm : link
In comment 14334049 montanagiant said:
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Mike clearly has a bias against guys who aren't Eli Manning types, same with Boomer, if you catch my drift


Boomer slams Eli more than any other QB. Wrongly for the most part


Screw Boomer, what did he ever win? He hates Eli because he is an icon here in NYC. Boomer better watch out if Eli retires maybe he will take his gig on the morning show. He is more entertaining and a hell of a lot smarter.
RE: RE: He keeps saying the Giants never won a thing with Shockey  
WillVAB : 3/13/2019 5:36 pm : link
In comment 14334005 rsjem1979 said:
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That’s not true. They won a super bowl with him on the team. He was injured at the end of the season but he was still apart of that team.

Shockey was also well into his career at that point. Not 25 years old in his prime. The argument makes no sense.



2007 was the 6th year of Shockey's NFL career. He turned 27 in August.

2019 will be the 6th year of Beckham's career. He turns 27 in November.


Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story!
Francesa should be kissing Odell's feet  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/13/2019 5:37 pm : link
considering that he successfully turned mentioning Odell Beckham's name into another 3 years of his past-the-freshness-date career.
the Giants didn't win the Superbowl with Shockey  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/13/2019 5:52 pm : link
he was not on the field for it
RE: the Giants didn't win the Superbowl with Shockey  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/13/2019 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14334188 gidiefor said:
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he was not on the field for it


He has a ring because he helped them win games that season and get into the playoffs.
RE: RE: RE: He just had a caller upset about the Odell trade.  
markky : 3/13/2019 6:20 pm : link
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Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??



Judging by who is here on BBI today there are probably a shit ton who have no idea who Bavaro was.



That kind of blows my mind. I’m a young fan and while I didn’t have the privilege of watching him, I know who he is and respect him.


it's a shame you missed him. any Giants fan that is old enough remembers where he was during that Giants - Niners game when he carried the Niners players down the field on his back. One of those transcendent moments in sports.
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BBelle21 : 3/13/2019 7:04 pm : link
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Francesa asked him if he’d rather have Odell on the team or Mark Bavaro. He said Odell, so Mike asked him if he knew who Mark Bavaro was and the caller said he didn’t care. Mike hung up on him laughing. He said I can’t talk to a Giants fan who doesn’t know who Mark Bavaro is. How are there Giants fans out there who don’t know Mark Bavaro??



Judging by who is here on BBI today there are probably a shit ton who have no idea who Bavaro was.



That kind of blows my mind. I’m a young fan and while I didn’t have the privilege of watching him, I know who he is and respect him.



it's a shame you missed him. any Giants fan that is old enough remembers where he was during that Giants - Niners game when he carried the Niners players down the field on his back. One of those transcendent moments in sports.


Wish I could have seen that live!
RE: RE: Why even listen?  
Fishmanjim57 : 3/13/2019 7:53 pm : link
In comment 14334049 montanagiant said:
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Mike clearly has a bias against guys who aren't Eli Manning types, same with Boomer, if you catch my drift


Boomer slams Eli more than any other QB. Wrongly for the most part


Boomer is just jealous of Manning's 2 rings. Boomer wasn't a good as Manning was when Eli was in his prime.
Boomer is a fun personality  
Dankbeerman : 3/13/2019 8:31 pm : link
but his breakdowns of QBs isnt as good as his breakdowns of Hockey games.
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