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Any of you catch Deangelo Williams Twitter after the trade?

Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 7:52 pm
"I tried to tell u @Giants fans Dave was your problem but u laughed and called me bitter! Well welcome to the salt wagon jump on and let’s ride together lol"

Pretty funny
Paid a guy $20 million per year, then traded him when he  
mfsd : 3/13/2019 7:55 pm : link
made it clear he wanted out.

Yup DG is a real enemy of the people
So does this mean he’s not bitter?  
Brown Recluse : 3/13/2019 7:55 pm : link
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RE: So does this mean he’s not bitter?  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 7:57 pm : link
In comment 14334595 Brown Recluse said:
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Oh he's bitter. He made a video right after the AB trade titled "This is for you Dave"
Why are people interested in  
section125 : 3/13/2019 8:00 pm : link
these losers bitching because they got cut 5 years ago?
Aside from the OBJ trade  
Emil : 3/13/2019 8:03 pm : link
Which I’ll admit I don’t like but see the rationale for. Exactly what personnel move in Carolina did Gettleman make that was wrong? Norman? Steve Smith? Neither of those players were going to be worth the money it was going to take to keep them.

I didn’t want to see OBJ traded but I’m sure the team has their reasons. I’ll reserve judgment until I see what the Giants do with the picks.

Teams win championships, not individual players.
RE: Aside from the OBJ trade  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14334615 Emil said:
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Which I’ll admit I don’t like but see the rationale for. Exactly what personnel move in Carolina did Gettleman make that was wrong? Norman? Steve Smith? Neither of those players were going to be worth the money it was going to take to keep them.

I didn’t want to see OBJ traded but I’m sure the team has their reasons. I’ll reserve judgment until I see what the Giants do with the picks.

Teams win championships, not individual players.


He messed up with Norman, IMO. Their defense never recovered and Gettleman got canned. But the others, it was probably the right timing to cut bait. The Steve Smith cut was particularly unpopular with fans.
RE: Aside from the OBJ trade  
ajr2456 : 3/13/2019 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14334615 Emil said:
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Which I’ll admit I don’t like but see the rationale for. Exactly what personnel move in Carolina did Gettleman make that was wrong? Norman? Steve Smith? Neither of those players were going to be worth the money it was going to take to keep them.

I didn’t want to see OBJ traded but I’m sure the team has their reasons. I’ll reserve judgment until I see what the Giants do with the picks.

Teams win championships, not individual players.


He tagged Norman then repealed the tag after all the other corners were off the market. He then compounded it by forcing defensive back picks in the draft, in a weak DB class because they had none.
RE: RE: Aside from the OBJ trade  
section125 : 3/13/2019 8:21 pm : link
In comment 14334630 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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In comment 14334615 Emil said:


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Which I’ll admit I don’t like but see the rationale for. Exactly what personnel move in Carolina did Gettleman make that was wrong? Norman? Steve Smith? Neither of those players were going to be worth the money it was going to take to keep them.

I didn’t want to see OBJ traded but I’m sure the team has their reasons. I’ll reserve judgment until I see what the Giants do with the picks.

Teams win championships, not individual players.



He messed up with Norman, IMO. Their defense never recovered and Gettleman got canned. But the others, it was probably the right timing to cut bait. The Steve Smith cut was particularly unpopular with fans.


He got canned for wanting to cut Olsen and arguing with the owner about it. Owners win, employees lose.
You could make a very strong argument  
Marty866b : 3/13/2019 8:28 pm : link
That Gettleman was an idiot for getting rid of those Carolina players and also wanting to cut Olsen. What compensation did Carolina get for any of those players?
Panhers Fans Did Try to Warn US...  
Festina Lente : 3/13/2019 8:37 pm : link
It's pretty obvious that many of DG's former players (even the ones he didn't cut) don't think much of him.
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Toth029 : 3/13/2019 8:41 pm : link
Norman gone was the right move. The fuck. He's a corner and not a great one.
RE: You could make a very strong argument  
section125 : 3/13/2019 8:47 pm : link
In comment 14334680 Marty866b said:
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That Gettleman was an idiot for getting rid of those Carolina players and also wanting to cut Olsen. What compensation did Carolina get for any of those players?


Ah no, you can't make a strong argument. Nobody is an idiot for doing the job they were hired to do. Richardson liked Olsen. So he did not want him cut to save money. I cannot remember if it was a salary dump, but it had to do with cap. Players get cut all the time whether it is for cap reasons or for performance without the team getting compensation.
You can say he was an idiot for arguing with the owner, not for attempting to correct the cap.
RE: ....  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14334715 Toth029 said:
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Norman gone was the right move. The fuck. He's a corner and not a great one.


Norman was graded as the top corner in 2015. It was absolutely the right move to keep him. 2016, after he went to Washington, Carolina was 6-10, mostly in part that they had no secondary. That was on DG.
I personally thought  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/13/2019 8:52 pm : link
He did a commendable job in Carolina. He inherited a cap nightmare from Marty Hurney. Got the cap back into a good situation and constructed a Super Bowl appearing roster. He did make some mistakes though.
You can bet that any of the "stars"  
Bill in UT : 3/13/2019 8:52 pm : link
that Gettleman let go in Carolina, Belichick would have dumped a year earlier
The Norman tag deal  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/13/2019 8:57 pm : link
was messed up. The other ones were justified. I can't say that Olsen cut would have been the right one or not.
DG's reputation coming in was making tough decisions w/ popular vets  
cwillm : 3/13/2019 9:33 pm : link
Steve Smith, D'Angelo Williams and others publicly hated on him. I was optimistic at the time, since I thought the same logic regarding popular but aging/over the hill and overpaid vets, would apply to all players on the team - including the QB.

The fact there are reports that Eli might actually not be cut, and instead return as the QB next year in light of all the personnel decisions of late is truly mind boggling and depressing if true.
This was not a Gettleman decision  
lightemup : 3/13/2019 9:46 pm : link
With a player as big as Odell, Mara is the one making the final decision. If he wants to talk about how bad the compensation was that's one thing, but getting rid of him is ultimately not up to him in this case
WHAT DAVE GETTLEMAN SANG TO ODELL BECKHAM  
nflscouting : 3/13/2019 10:11 pm : link

I won't ever leave, while you want me to stay
Nothing you could do, that could turn me away
Hanging on every word, believing the things I heard
Being a fool
You've taken my life, so take my soul
That's what you said, and I believed it all
I wanna be with you, as long as you want me to
I won't move away
Ain't that what you said, ain't that what you said, ain't that what you said
Liar, liar, liar
May I see no night, may I see no day
If I ever leave, while you want me to stay
You can believe in me, I won't be leaving, I won't let go
Ain't that what you said, ain't that you said, ain't that what you said
Liar, liar, liar
Liar, liar, liar
RE: I personally thought  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2019 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14334763 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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constructed a Super Bowl appearing roster.


He "constructed" a Super Bowl roster that was dominated by players he inherited.
section125  
Marty866b : 3/14/2019 12:17 am : link
Yeah, Gettleman dumped those players who could still play at a high level. What compensation did he receive for those players? Still waiting.
Some of you vastly overrate Nornan  
Emil : 3/14/2019 7:26 am : link
He’s not a shutdown corner. He doesn’t follow the number one WR. He’s more of a zone cover 3 corner. He was in his upper 20s at the time. He wasn’t worth top dollar and Washington overpaid for him. At the time I completely thought Gettleman made the right move.
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