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Report: Giants most interested in Murray today

muhajir : 3/13/2019 10:07 pm
Giants were the team that showed the most interest in Kyler Murray today; They met with him immediately after the Pro Day finished & he later had an extended meeting w/ Giants brass, per @MikeLeslieWFAA.

Here’s Kyler chatting w/ Mike Shula and Dir. of Col. Scouting Chris Petit. https://t.co/FBuqyG4LA8
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Great  
The_Boss : 3/13/2019 10:08 pm : link
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This is what they should do  
adamg : 3/13/2019 10:10 pm : link
Trade their first round picks to AZ for Kyler Murray at 1.
Please  
djm : 3/13/2019 10:10 pm : link
Let this be true.

The mere possibility that the giants want this kind of talent at qb makes me feel happy. I’d be so pumped if we got this dude. Murray is an insane talent.
Murray in NYG Blue  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 3/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
would be outstanding!
Wonder what the Giants would have to give up to move up 5 spots  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
I'm sure Arizona would look for a king's ransom, starting with both 1's this year and their 1 in 2020.
Ugh  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
NOOO

If zona takes Murray trade for Rosen. If zona passes trade to #3 for Murray. I wouldn't trade to #1 for Murray it will take a ton and we need picks for D rebuild
Gettleman had  
muhajir : 3/13/2019 10:11 pm : link
Some interesting comments in one of the pressers not to long ago.

“One of the things that we really focus on are instincts. Instincts are very important.

“You can write a laundry list of things you’re looking for ... one of the things I focus on and we talk about all the time is instincts. Does he have a feel for the game? Is he a step ahead of everybody else?

“Instincts and play smarts allow you to play bigger, stronger, faster.”

Could he have been referring too....
RE: Please  
muhajir : 3/13/2019 10:12 pm : link
In comment 14335020 djm said:
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Let this be true.

The mere possibility that the giants want this kind of talent at qb makes me feel happy. I’d be so pumped if we got this dude. Murray is an insane talent.


Same here!
I’d be thrilled with Murray  
cokeduplt : 3/13/2019 10:12 pm : link
6 and 17 should be enough
I’d sell the farm for him  
djm : 3/13/2019 10:13 pm : link
If I liked what I saw and took in when meeting with him in person. His talent level is off the charts good, size and all. If i felt good about his character after meeting him? I’d be all over him if I’m gettleman.

probably nothing but this raises an eyebrow  
Strahan91 : 3/13/2019 10:15 pm : link
At the 4:30 mark he says he texted Mayfield about the Beckham trade: “I’m a little jealous”. Read into that what you will
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This scares the shit out of me  
illmatic : 3/13/2019 10:15 pm : link
If the plan was to trade Beckham to get more picks and then use those as ammo to trade up to #1 and get Murray, it's going to crush this franchise if he's a bust.
RE: I’d be thrilled with Murray  
djm : 3/13/2019 10:16 pm : link
In comment 14335031 cokeduplt said:
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6 and 17 should be enough


That’s not enough.
Giants wouldn’t waste resources  
Matt in SGS : 3/13/2019 10:16 pm : link
Sending scouts to see him. I’d be curious to hear from Dave Te if the Giants are requesting more detailed scouting reports on him from the various services (which is usually a telltale sign of real interest)
The Giants  
JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 10:16 pm : link
want Murray, the Giants want Rosen... What's clear is NYG is putting an all court press on ARZ to see what shakes loose from the tree at the best price.
RE: This scares the shit out of me  
djm : 3/13/2019 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14335036 illmatic said:
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If the plan was to trade Beckham to get more picks and then use those as ammo to trade up to #1 and get Murray, it's going to crush this franchise if he's a bust.


And what if he’s great. Watch this guy play. He’s a freak. He’s always the fastest and best athlete on the field. Every game.
RE: The Giants  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2019 10:18 pm : link
In comment 14335039 JPinstripes said:
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want Murray, the Giants want Rosen... What's clear is NYG is putting an all court press on ARZ to see what shakes loose from the tree at the best price.



Exactly what I said.

They take Murray we trade for Rosen. They pass on Murray we move up for him. This is smart because I like both and both are attainable
RE: RE: This scares the shit out of me  
FStubbs : 3/13/2019 10:19 pm : link
In comment 14335041 djm said:
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If the plan was to trade Beckham to get more picks and then use those as ammo to trade up to #1 and get Murray, it's going to crush this franchise if he's a bust.



And what if he’s great. Watch this guy play. He’s a freak. He’s always the fastest and best athlete on the field. Every game.


Yeah, let me see what happens when he gets hit by NFL defenses.
Everybody loves  
antdog24 : 3/13/2019 10:20 pm : link
a little calamari ...
RE: This is what they should do  
Hsilwek92 : 3/13/2019 10:20 pm : link
In comment 14335019 adamg said:
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Trade their first round picks to AZ for Kyler Murray at 1.


Please god no.

Now that Beckham is gone and this season is more than likely going to be a bust anyway, I’d rather they use the picks to bolster the D and O-line.
Going from Eli to Murray would be ballsy  
Sean : 3/13/2019 10:21 pm : link
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RE: RE: The Giants  
JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 10:21 pm : link
In comment 14335042 BleedBlue said:
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want Murray, the Giants want Rosen... What's clear is NYG is putting an all court press on ARZ to see what shakes loose from the tree at the best price.




Exactly what I said.

They take Murray we trade for Rosen. They pass on Murray we move up for him. This is smart because I like both and both are attainable


Exactly +1
RE: Everybody loves  
adamg : 3/13/2019 10:22 pm : link
In comment 14335047 antdog24 said:
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a big calamari ...


RE: RE: I’d be thrilled with Murray  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/13/2019 10:23 pm : link
In comment 14335037 djm said:
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6 and 17 should be enough



That’s not enough.


Back in 2016, the Eagles sent their 1st, 3rd, 4th and 1st in the following year's draft to Cleveland to move up six spots from 8 to 2 to land Carson Wentz. Giants would be have to move up five spots to land Murray. I'd assume for that to happen they'd have to trade away both 1's, a 4th, and maybe a 2nd in 2020.
Murray, Saquan, OBJ, Engram, Shep and a decent oline  
Foobarbaz : 3/13/2019 10:24 pm : link
.....that be one hell of an entertaining team to watch
would be  
Mr. Nickels : 3/13/2019 10:25 pm : link
so so so stupid

bet we do it
RE: This is what they should do  
montanagiant : 3/13/2019 10:25 pm : link
In comment 14335019 adamg said:
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Trade their first round picks to AZ for Kyler Murray at 1.

No
No Way
Absolutely Not
Was there really  
JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 10:26 pm : link
a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?
RE: Was there really  
adamg : 3/13/2019 10:28 pm : link
In comment 14335067 JPinstripes said:
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a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?


Does it really matter?
RE: Giants wouldn’t waste resources  
kennyd : 3/13/2019 10:29 pm : link
In comment 14335038 Matt in SGS said:
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Sending scouts to see him. I’d be curious to hear from Dave Te if the Giants are requesting more detailed scouting reports on him from the various services (which is usually a telltale sign of real interest)


All 32 teams had people there. Some to see Murray some to see their olineman (can't remember his name), most to see both of them.
I think Murray is a great talent,  
Giantgator : 3/13/2019 10:30 pm : link
but it seems like Kingsbury is all in on him. I'd be surprised if AZ passes on him. Rosen could be a steal in that case, esp. if we could get him for a 2nd. We know Rosen has the arm talent, but I was impressed with his ability to extend plays and pick up first downs with his legs. Plus he'd only cost 2 mil. a year.
Murray  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2019 10:30 pm : link
Is very good. I wouldn't trade two 1s for him tho...if cards pass move to #3 and give a 2020 1 if needed and take Murray at 3. Keep #17 and #37 and #17 you take best def player avail and at 37 you take another defender...wheeler will be fine at RT another hear with the elusive Murray!
Yes it does  
JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 10:31 pm : link
it's a NYG football board.

If I want to look at large pics of Calamari I will go to a foodie board.

There is no reason to clutter NYG football threads with large photos of things that have ZERO relevance to the expected content.
RE: I think Murray is a great talent,  
BleedBlue : 3/13/2019 10:31 pm : link
In comment 14335077 Giantgator said:
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but it seems like Kingsbury is all in on him. I'd be surprised if AZ passes on him. Rosen could be a steal in that case, esp. if we could get him for a 2nd. We know Rosen has the arm talent, but I was impressed with his ability to extend plays and pick up first downs with his legs. Plus he'd only cost 2 mil. a year.


Offer #95 and a 2020 3 two third rounders....if it doesn't work offer a 2020 2 and #95....we still have a ton of picks to rebuild team
RE: Was there really  
antdog24 : 3/13/2019 10:32 pm : link
In comment 14335067 JPinstripes said:
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a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?

You mean this Calamari?
RE: I think Murray is a great talent,  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/13/2019 10:33 pm : link
In comment 14335077 Giantgator said:
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but it seems like Kingsbury is all in on him. I'd be surprised if AZ passes on him. Rosen could be a steal in that case, esp. if we could get him for a 2nd. We know Rosen has the arm talent, but I was impressed with his ability to extend plays and pick up first downs with his legs. Plus he'd only cost 2 mil. a year.


Rosen's character issues scare me. Tons of scouting reports I read on him says he's not a great leader and is known to butt-heads with teammates. Not sure that's a trait I'd want in my starting QB.
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JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 10:36 pm : link
In comment 14335086 antdog24 said:
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a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?


You mean this Calamari?


Yeah - you the man ANT DOG. Thanks.....
RE: RE: Was there really  
adamg : 3/13/2019 10:38 pm : link
In comment 14335086 antdog24 said:
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a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?


You mean this Calamari?


Looks like the same thing to me!
I trust Schurmur on QBs  
Emil : 3/13/2019 10:42 pm : link
While I prefer a prototypical QB, it’s hard to ignore the exceptions to the rule like Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield.

I think Schurmur can coach any QB and looks for things like a quick release and anticipatory passing more than height requirements.

Would also point out, at 5’10” 205lbs Murray isn’t much smaller than Case Keenum who is 6’1” 215, and Schurmur got plenty of production out of Keenum in 2016.
RE: Murray, Saquan, OBJ, Engram, Shep and a decent oline  
Danny Kanell : 3/13/2019 10:45 pm : link
In comment 14335060 Foobarbaz said:
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.....that be one hell of an entertaining team to watch


You ok?
Well  
mrvax : 3/13/2019 10:45 pm : link
that Twitter pic makes him look about 5'5" or 5'6".
I doubt the NFL has a rule against a QB standing on a chair...

I'm just bustin' chops. IMO, Murray has skills that would mitigate that height deficiency.
Would be a great way to maximize Barkley  
Go Terps : 3/13/2019 10:51 pm : link
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RE: I trust Schurmur on QBs  
sxdxca : 3/13/2019 10:54 pm : link
In comment 14335108 Emil said:
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While I prefer a prototypical QB, it’s hard to ignore the exceptions to the rule like Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield.

I think Schurmur can coach any QB and looks for things like a quick release and anticipatory passing more than height requirements.

Would also point out, at 5’10” 205lbs Murray isn’t much smaller than Case Keenum who is 6’1” 215, and Schurmur got plenty of production out of Keenum in 2016.


I think its important to understand that Case Keenum played in a dome in Minnesota. That gives an advantage to any QB. You can see the difference with Keenum outside of a dome, he was terrible.
If DSG Picked Murray, I'd Take Back All the Bad Things I Said  
Giants38 : 3/13/2019 10:54 pm : link
About Him. But he won't, so it's a moot point. DSG will just continue chugging along, oblivious to what is right in front of his face.
RE: Everybody loves  
djm : 3/13/2019 10:55 pm : link
In comment 14335047 antdog24 said:
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a little calamari ...


Exactly
RE: If DSG Picked Murray, I'd Take Back All the Bad Things I Said  
mrvax : 3/13/2019 11:05 pm : link
In comment 14335129 Giants38 said:
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About Him. But he won't, so it's a moot point. DSG will just continue chugging along, oblivious to what is right in front of his face.


You're such a jackass with this DSG crap. I guess when you were banned last time as Giants34 you didn't learn. Troll.
RE: RE: If DSG Picked Murray, I'd Take Back All the Bad Things I Said  
Giants38 : 3/13/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14335143 mrvax said:
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About Him. But he won't, so it's a moot point. DSG will just continue chugging along, oblivious to what is right in front of his face.



You're such a jackass with this DSG crap. I guess when you were banned last time as Giants34 you didn't learn. Troll.


I'm going to try this once more. I was not banned. I really don't know how differently to put it. My handle was Giants34. It got messed up as it was unlinked from my e-mail account, so I had to change my handle. So stop with the nonsense that I was banned, which was patently false.

DSG earned his monicker. He is an absolute jackass who is tearing this team apart with no plan other than to bow down to Eli. It's sickening to watch.
RE: RE: Murray, Saquan, OBJ, Engram, Shep and a decent oline  
Mr. Bungle : 3/13/2019 11:14 pm : link
In comment 14335109 Danny Kanell said:
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.....that be one hell of an entertaining team to watch



You ok?

Lol. I read that post five times to make sure I wasn't nuts.
Great news.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/13/2019 11:18 pm : link
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JPinstripes : 3/13/2019 11:30 pm : link
In comment 14335098 adamg said:
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a reason to place that big photo of Calamari and clutter the thread?


You mean this Calamari?




Looks like the same thing to me!


The reality is it's neither of your faults to being the assholes that you are... This web site has limitations and one of which should be to show the only the "image" as a clickable tab option and not display if not clicked.

But please carry on with your obnoxious rights to post whatever dumb and unnecessary pics you want on this site.
Its a great move to show interest even if they're not  
widmerseyebrow : 3/13/2019 11:39 pm : link
Getting a team to pick him top 5 is key if they're targeting the top ERs.
It doesn't matter  
Greg from LI : 3/13/2019 11:42 pm : link
Arizona is picking him
If they’re convinced he’s the guy  
darren in pdx : 3/13/2019 11:51 pm : link
like they were with Eli..make it happen.
I think Murray is gonna be really  
mattyblue : 3/13/2019 11:56 pm : link
awesome for whoever takes him. No pro worm if it is us. If he was an inch or 2 taller people would be going nuts over him. I don’t think that inch is gonna matter.
RE: I think Murray is gonna be really  
mrvax : 3/13/2019 11:59 pm : link
In comment 14335230 mattyblue said:
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awesome for whoever takes him. No pro worm if it is us. If he was an inch or 2 taller people would be going nuts over him. I don’t think that inch is gonna matter.


Hope his girlfriend feels that way.
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kes722 : 3/14/2019 12:05 am : link
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Well played
awesome for whoever takes him. No pro worm if it is us. If he was an inch or 2 taller people would be going nuts over him. I don’t think that inch is gonna matter.



Hope his girlfriend feels that way.
RE: I trust Schurmur on QBs  
HomerJones45 : 3/14/2019 12:16 am : link
In comment 14335108 Emil said:
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While I prefer a prototypical QB, it’s hard to ignore the exceptions to the rule like Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield.

I think Schurmur can coach any QB and looks for things like a quick release and anticipatory passing more than height requirements.

Would also point out, at 5’10” 205lbs Murray isn’t much smaller than Case Keenum who is 6’1” 215, and Schurmur got plenty of production out of Keenum in 2016.
Mayfield is a shade over 6'. Wilson was a 3rd rounder. Murray is not 5' 10". Stephen A. Smith thought labeling him 5' 9" was being generous, and he may be correct. Here is a photo of Murray standing next to Haskins, who is listed at 6' 3" and Tua who is listed at 6' 1".

RE: Murray, Saquan, OBJ, Engram, Shep and a decent oline  
81_Great_Dane : 3/14/2019 12:33 am : link
In comment 14335060 Foobarbaz said:
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.....that be one hell of an entertaining team to watch
did anyone tell him?
RE: Murray, Saquan, OBJ, Engram, Shep and a decent oline  
SHO'NUFF : 3/14/2019 12:35 am : link
In comment 14335060 Foobarbaz said:
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.....that be one hell of an entertaining team to watch


Yeah, um, about that... you're gonna wanna sit down for this one...
murray is not the giant qb of tomorrow or the future or whatever. the  
plato : 3/14/2019 1:19 am : link
giants went all in for Eli in the draft giving away a lot. but there were many assurances from both inside and outside the organization that he was the guy to become the face of the franchise. You could almost say that his genetics and his family groomed him, determined him if you will, to be the qb.

Murray is too small and not just short. he has matured he can’t get much bigger and broader and being 5’7” which is closer to his actual height does not assure good odds for him to become a great nfl qb. So just forget it. it’s not going to happen because DG/Shurmer are too smart to let it happen.
RE: RE: I think Murray is a great talent,  
section125 : 3/14/2019 4:26 am : link
In comment 14335090 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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Rosen's character issues scare me. Tons of scouting reports I read on him says he's not a great leader and is known to butt-heads with teammates. Not sure that's a trait I'd want in my starting QB.


Did he exhibit any of that last year in the pros? Forget the scouting reports. Besides surviving the season behind the worst line in the league, I don't think there was an issue with teammates.
RE: murray is not the giant qb of tomorrow or the future or whatever. the  
Big Rick in FL : 3/14/2019 5:17 am : link
In comment 14335274 plato said:
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giants went all in for Eli in the draft giving away a lot. but there were many assurances from both inside and outside the organization that he was the guy to become the face of the franchise. You could almost say that his genetics and his family groomed him, determined him if you will, to be the qb.

Murray is too small and not just short. he has matured he can’t get much bigger and broader and being 5’7” which is closer to his actual height does not assure good odds for him to become a great nfl qb. So just forget it. it’s not going to happen because DG/Shurmer are too smart to let it happen.



You can't possibly be this dumb right? He was literally just measured at the combine and was 5'10 so no 5'7 isn't closer to his actual height.
It that 5’10” is anything to brag about  
Bill L : 3/14/2019 5:29 am : link
(Being 5’10” myself).
If the nfl was Disney, he’d have to send the day at Magic Kingdom.
We have height truthers now  
twostepgiants : 3/14/2019 6:10 am : link
Unbelievable
Murray Interview with NFL Network yesterday  
ZogZerg : 3/14/2019 6:24 am : link
He was interviewed by DJ briefly and I thought he presented himself much better then he did with that other interview that was discussed. He was obviously more comfortable in this environment.
RE: RE: murray is not the giant qb of tomorrow or the future or whatever. the  
section125 : 3/14/2019 6:32 am : link
In comment 14335313 Big Rick in FL said:
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giants went all in for Eli in the draft giving away a lot. but there were many assurances from both inside and outside the organization that he was the guy to become the face of the franchise. You could almost say that his genetics and his family groomed him, determined him if you will, to be the qb.

Murray is too small and not just short. he has matured he can’t get much bigger and broader and being 5’7” which is closer to his actual height does not assure good odds for him to become a great nfl qb. So just forget it. it’s not going to happen because DG/Shurmer are too smart to let it happen.




You can't possibly be this dumb right? He was literally just measured at the combine and was 5'10 so no 5'7 isn't closer to his actual height.


Rick, that picture sure seems to show him 5 or 6 inches shorter than Tua...it ain't the shoes because I've seen the picture taken from the side and they are all in standard dress shoes. If I never knew he was measured at 5'10" and saw that picture knowing Haskins was 6'3" anad Tua 6'1", I'd guess Murray was 5'8"...
RE: RE: I trust Schurmur on QBs  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/14/2019 6:41 am : link
In comment 14335245 HomerJones45 said:
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While I prefer a prototypical QB, it’s hard to ignore the exceptions to the rule like Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield.

I think Schurmur can coach any QB and looks for things like a quick release and anticipatory passing more than height requirements.

Would also point out, at 5’10” 205lbs Murray isn’t much smaller than Case Keenum who is 6’1” 215, and Schurmur got plenty of production out of Keenum in 2016.

Mayfield is a shade over 6'. Wilson was a 3rd rounder. Murray is not 5' 10". Stephen A. Smith thought labeling him 5' 9" was being generous, and he may be correct. Here is a photo of Murray standing next to Haskins, who is listed at 6' 3" and Tua who is listed at 6' 1".

JFC don't you ever get tired of being wrong? You are aware that Murray was measured at the combine, right? But by all means, keep citing SAS like the fool that you are.

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IDK about height truthing  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/14/2019 8:00 am : link
But that picture of Murray next to Haskins (who is closer to 6'3.5") and Tua is damming. He truly can't be 5'10".

No way by that photo.

Anyway the Giants were "all over him" because of due diligence. Several people have pointed out that Murray was just terrible on Dan Patrick's show in interview.

The Giants' brass are digging into his mental makeup, and maybe checking out the truth about his height too.

I don't think they bite on him at 6, let alone trade up for him.

But what do I know?
I hope teams remeasure Murray  
Rick in Dallas : 3/14/2019 8:22 am : link
He sure as hell doesn’t look 5’10” with 9 1/2” hands. Make him run the 40 also.
His hands look smaller in pictures when he grips a football.
I am just not sold on Murray. Like Haskins and Lock better than Murray.
In s perfect situation we trade our number 37 pick for Rosen.
I don't see it.  
ATL_Giants : 3/14/2019 8:45 am : link
Yes, he's fantastic in college. The NFL is a very different environment. His athleticism won't rescue him from the speed of NFL pass rushers. We need someone who can be a surgical passer from the pocket.
That dude is NOT 5'10"  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/14/2019 8:46 am : link
Despite his talent - Lets be real.
RE: RE: RE: murray is not the giant qb of tomorrow or the future or whatever. the  
mrvax : 3/14/2019 8:51 am : link
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giants went all in for Eli in the draft giving away a lot. but there were many assurances from both inside and outside the organization that he was the guy to become the face of the franchise. You could almost say that his genetics and his family groomed him, determined him if you will, to be the qb.

Murray is too small and not just short. he has matured he can’t get much bigger and broader and being 5’7” which is closer to his actual height does not assure good odds for him to become a great nfl qb. So just forget it. it’s not going to happen because DG/Shurmer are too smart to let it happen.




You can't possibly be this dumb right? He was literally just measured at the combine and was 5'10 so no 5'7 isn't closer to his actual height.



Rick, that picture sure seems to show him 5 or 6 inches shorter than Tua...it ain't the shoes because I've seen the picture taken from the side and they are all in standard dress shoes. If I never knew he was measured at 5'10" and saw that picture knowing Haskins was 6'3" anad Tua 6'1", I'd guess Murray was 5'8"...


My wife and I guessed 5'7".
RE: I hope teams remeasure Murray  
stoneman : 3/14/2019 8:52 am : link
In comment 14335499 Rick in Dallas said:
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He sure as hell doesn’t look 5’10” with 9 1/2” hands. Make him run the 40 also.
His hands look smaller in pictures when he grips a football.
I am just not sold on Murray. Like Haskins and Lock better than Murray.
In s perfect situation we trade our number 37 pick for Rosen.


Height doesn't matter when your handing the ball off 40+ times a game. I'll be pissed if our offense is Raven-like.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2019 8:52 am : link
I am very quickly moving into wanting Kyler Murray - maybe even more than Haskins. It has always been these 2 guys for me, but I'm starting to really like the idea of doing what we have to to get Kyler.

Swing for the fucking fences, man. If he doesn't pan out or gets hurt... so be it.

Take a shot. The kid throws a great ball. He's incredibly athletic. His size still really concerns me - as does his hand size (Goff was absolutely terrible in Chicago in December) - but I'd be happy if this is the direction we moved in.
RE: I don't see it.  
ATL_Giants : 3/14/2019 8:53 am : link
In comment 14335540 ATL_Giants said:
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... We need someone who can be a surgical passer from the pocket.
He throws from a very clean pocket, against shitty secondaries.
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mrvax : 3/14/2019 8:54 am : link
In comment 14335554 arcarsenal said:
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I am very quickly moving into wanting Kyler Murray - maybe even more than Haskins. It has always been these 2 guys for me, but I'm starting to really like the idea of doing what we have to to get Kyler.

Swing for the fucking fences, man. If he doesn't pan out or gets hurt... so be it.

Take a shot. The kid throws a great ball. He's incredibly athletic. His size still really concerns me - as does his hand size (Goff was absolutely terrible in Chicago in December) - but I'd be happy if this is the direction we moved in.



Some guy on the Giants' staff said "No guts, no glory".
All of Murray's throws at his Pro Day  
Ira : 3/14/2019 9:05 am : link
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In comment 14335544 Jim Bur(n)t said:
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Despite his talent - Lets be real.

So he managed to fake his height at the combine? Let's be real.
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DanMetroMan : 3/14/2019 9:10 am : link
guy who was at the combine the other day confirms this. Giants seemed very, very intrigued by Murray. He doesn't think it's smoke at all. Doesn't mean they move up etc. But they are doing all of their homework on him.
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In comment 14335614 DanMetroMan said:
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guy who was at the combine the other day confirms this. Giants seemed very, very intrigued by Murray. He doesn't think it's smoke at all. Doesn't mean they move up etc. But they are doing all of their homework on him.


Last year, Shurmur and Darnold were practically dating.
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FearTheHippo : 3/14/2019 9:20 am : link
This is too much guys. How old are you that you don't understand the concept of perspective? When shot at an upward angle, an object in the foreground will appear larger than an object in the background. In the photo in question, Murray is standing just behind Tua and Haskins, making him appear shorter.

Are we now doubting the ability of combine officials to hold a tape measure correctly?
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In comment 14335630 mrvax said:
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In comment 14335614 DanMetroMan said:


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guy who was at the combine the other day confirms this. Giants seemed very, very intrigued by Murray. He doesn't think it's smoke at all. Doesn't mean they move up etc. But they are doing all of their homework on him.



Last year, Shurmur and Darnold were practically dating.


Sure but that doesn't mean much here. Barkley is a once in a life-time caliber talent. For all we know the Giants really wrestled with that decision. There is no Saquon Barkley in this draft. Shurmur could have loved Darnold and the Giants still could have liked someone else more. Both things can be true.
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