Giants hosting Mike Remmers today

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As a starter, but as a backup I’m ok with it.

doesnt work against us in comp pick formula.

RT and poor guard, which is why he was cut. Would be a smart signing.

He beat out Darryl Williams twice in training camp.

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if not, pass

Than come up for air with this guy after dumpster diving.

at the right co$t.

2 year deal please. No more.

We can pencil him in at RT and draft a guy in rounds 2-4.

He is way better than Wheeler this is for sure,

The interior offensive line. Starting guards Mike Remmers and Tom Compton combined to allow a staggering 77 total pressures. Remmers finished with an overall grade of 58.9 (50th among guards)

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-minnesota-vikings-2018-season-recap

and likely the best left on the FA market. But none of that means he would be a smart signing. He seems more like a band aid than a solution.

So it's fine. And signing him wouldn't preclude us from drafting a tackle who can beat him out.

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but signing this guy to a smart contract would alleviate the need to do it really early.

In comment 14336053 The_Boss said:

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Than come up for air with this guy after dumpster diving.

1. He's a significant upgrade over Wheeler
2. Gives them options for the draft if they don't like the OT options when they're on the board with their 1st 3 picks. Can then grab a RT in the 3rd/4th that might need some development. Or at a minimum force the rookie to face some camp competition.

In comment 14336040 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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As a starter, but as a backup I’m ok with it.

yea lets start wheeler another year smh

If he comes here, it's to play tackle - so, the stuff he did at guard seems less important - I'd assume he would just be a backup there if Zeitler were to get hurt and we we wanted to push someone else out to RT.

I like that the comp pick formula would be unaffected and I don't think this will require a huge commit so it doesn't bug me.

Chad Wheeler is really, really bad.

I don't care what our plan is this year - but none of them can involve 16 games of Wheeler @ RT.

so signing him doesn't affect potential comp picks for next year.

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After a 2016 season in which the Vikings offensive line needed an overhaul, Remmers was brought in alongside Riley Reiff as free agent acquisitions to help put a band-aid on the team’s situation up front. After landing a five-year, $30 million contract from Minnesota in free agency, he performed well, allowing 16 pressures and no sacks in 10 starts at right tackle. As the 2017 season wore along, however, the team decided to kick him into guard and that is where the wheels fell off. After struggling in a three-game stint at guard in a Week 17 victory over Chicago and two playoff games, Minnesota stubbornly kept him at guard in hopes of replacing retiring offensive lineman Joe Berger.

https://thevikingage.com/2019/03/11/minnesota-vikings-release-mike-remmers/ - ( New Window )

Jon in NYC is correct

and draft a Tackle with pick # 37.

Need, familiarity and at the right price point. I do think the Giants are going more analytic and factoring comp pick potential as well. He doesn't factor. Seems like a no brainer. They can still draft a guy to develop for a year behind him as well.

And if they draft a RT high, he'd be perfect insurance.

he's better than Wheeler at RT. So then you don't have to force a pick for a tackle. You draft someone of value, and if the draft pick wins the job, you've got a vet swing guy who can play tackle and guard.

In comment 14336076 13ODB said:

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In comment 14336040 BigBlueDownTheShore said: Quote: As a starter, but as a backup I’m ok with it. yea lets start wheeler another year smh

I'm assuming he is not going to start because we would draft or pick up someone that is better than him.

He was terrible last year as a starter, I'm making an assumption that they moved him to guard because he wasn't cutting it at Tackle either. Since the Minny offensive line is absolutely putrid.

As a swing tackle or guard, I'm fine with it. As a starter no thanks.

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and even his bad performances at guard the past couple years were graded significantly higher than Wheeler. Familiarity with the coaching staff is a positive. Good placeholder for whatever OL they draft with 1 of the top 100 picks.

but he's better than Wheeler. Only way I'd be comfortable with this is if it was really cheap and he comes in t compete, not just giving him the job at RT

stop gap that means they don't need to go RT at #17/#37.

Also - anyone suggesting we sign him as a backup - LOL. The guy will be paid to start by someone if it's not by us. There's a dearth of quality NFL linemen available right now. He's been a starter for 4 consecutive years and is still 29 years old and has played all over the line.

This guy isn't going somewhere to be a backup.

2 yrs ago with Minnesota. Solid Vet who did beat out Daryl Williams(who many ppl wanted badly) twice. Also played LT for a full season.

But let's face it, almost anyone is an improvement on Wheeler.

Sign Mike Remmers to compete with the 17th or the Giants 2nd round pick for the starting job. Whoever loses provides solid depth along with Wheeler, Pulley, and hopefully a mid round pick.

In comment 14336110 ryanmkeane said:

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but he's better than Wheeler. Only way I'd be comfortable with this is if it was really cheap and he comes in t compete, not just giving him the job at RT

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allowing 16 pressures and no sacks in 10 starts at right tackle

is infinitely better than we have now.

In comment 14336112 arcarsenal said:

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Also - anyone suggesting we sign him as a backup - LOL. The guy will be paid to start by someone if it's not by us. There's a dearth of quality NFL linemen available right now. He's been a starter for 4 consecutive years and is still 29 years old and has played all over the line. This guy isn't going somewhere to be a backup.

Erick Flowers has been a starter in NFL for 4 years, should we resign him?

but lets not go into training camp with him and wheeler as the only options..

Probably can be had cheaply because he was such a poor guard. Even if he's middle of the pack at RT (and it seems that's about where he falls as a T) that's another upgraded position on the OL. Slightly upgraded... but still upgraded. Baby steps Bob...

Baby steps get on the bus, baby steps down the aisle, baby steps...

are! Chris Hogan and Remmers! Keep working them phones, Gettleman!

In comment 14336124 BigBlueDownTheShore said:

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In comment 14336112 arcarsenal said: Quote: Also - anyone suggesting we sign him as a backup - LOL. The guy will be paid to start by someone if it's not by us. There's a dearth of quality NFL linemen available right now. He's been a starter for 4 consecutive years and is still 29 years old and has played all over the line. This guy isn't going somewhere to be a backup. Erick Flowers has been a starter in NFL for 4 years, should we resign him?

Ereck Flowers has no history of performing at a capable level in the NFL. Terrible analogy.

I agree with your thinking, but just because someone is better than Wheeler, does not mean he should automatically be starting for us. We need a long term, really good player at RT. Remmers is not that. That being said, he can be a good signing for the right price.

sign him. Then try to improve upon him in the draft or next year. Trying to learn a new position in the middle of the year is tough. I'll give him that out. But as a side note, I wish every one on here wasn't so pre-occupied by the comp pick calculation. If a player can make your team better, why would you pass him by on the chance that you get a 3rd round pick?

Can play guard but is better at OT.

it will not impact our drafting strategy in any way. Good depth and means we dont have to force a RT pick early.

Not ideal but infinitely better than Wheeler.

You can sign him & still draft an OT at 17. Remmers is not going to break the bank!

until a Rookie gets up-to-speed.

Wheeler cannot start. Do we all agree with that?

We need to make a move like this or we need to spend pick 17 or 37 on someone.

I am fairly certain Dave Gettleman knows he cannot send this team out there with Wheeler starting again. So, someone else will be brought in.

And start him (e.g.,Taylor). Yes, it costs a number one, but that's where we are. Don't bother with these leftovers.

a plan that signs Remmers for a not crazy deal to compete with a rookie at RT

On our roster that can play nfl RT. IMHO Wheeler will be cut in training camp.
We need a FA and a draft pick.

In comment 14336162 arcarsenal said:

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Wheeler cannot start. Do we all agree with that? We need to make a move like this or we need to spend pick 17 or 37 on someone. I am fairly certain Dave Gettleman knows he cannot send this team out there with Wheeler starting again. So, someone else will be brought in.

Yes