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TommytheElephant : 3/14/2019 12:58 pm
CBS Notification.

Click bait? Bullshit? News?

What is this?
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Fake  
Little boy Lost : 3/14/2019 1:14 pm : link
News!!!
RE: So letís get this straight  
section125 : 3/14/2019 1:14 pm : link
In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:
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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen


All the negative shit you just posted was sort of debunked at AZ along with him not being tough. Guy survived the worst line and 55(?) sacks and never said a peep as far as I heard.
Yes JonC said the Giants had concerns, but maybe after a year in the NFL he matured and developed.
This is where Jerry Reese would say  
David B. : 3/14/2019 1:16 pm : link
"We explore everything."
Please  
Trainmaster : 3/14/2019 1:21 pm : link
NO !!!
You have  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/14/2019 1:22 pm : link
to sometimes look where they are pulling it from. This sounds like what Grazziano (very poorly) wrote last night.
Hope this is not  
TMS : 3/14/2019 1:23 pm : link
true.
Regurgitating Graziano  
BSIMatt : 3/14/2019 1:23 pm : link
...not newsworthy.
I have a feeling we are going to trade for him  
Jints in Carolina : 3/14/2019 1:24 pm : link
.
Due  
Chef : 3/14/2019 1:25 pm : link
Diligence
Explore everything  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2019 1:32 pm : link
Call Kansas City and see if they are in the mood to move Mahomes.

"No? Alrighty then. Good luck this season!"
If they can get him cheap  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/14/2019 1:40 pm : link
that would be ideal, we have a year to see who he really is, how his teammates like him and most important how he looks in camp and preseason. If some of the boxes do not check, we go all in for a QB next year... no big loss

Seems like a legit plan
So this is just more from that Graz report right?  
ChaChing : 3/14/2019 1:44 pm : link
If Rosen is available, NYG might be interested. But even if he is we don't know if they make an offer

Net effect of the statement was 0 and it might as well have not been said. "If yes then maybe, but even if really yes maybe not"

Professional journalism. Not just the author, but the editor and the seeming consistent errors from a major 'news outlet.' Then as said above it's also due to the 24/7 news cycle, and all us fools who still click, comment, etc even so
RE: So this is just more from that Graz report right?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/14/2019 1:46 pm : link
In comment 14336779 ChaChing said:
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If Rosen is available, NYG might be interested. But even if he is we don't know if they make an offer

Net effect of the statement was 0 and it might as well have not been said. "If yes then maybe, but even if really yes maybe not"

Professional journalism. Not just the author, but the editor and the seeming consistent errors from a major 'news outlet.' Then as said above it's also due to the 24/7 news cycle, and all us fools who still click, comment, etc even so


It was mind-boggling how bad that sentence was. I showed it to my wife, who an English literature minor, and her reaction was, "This doesn't mean anything."
RE: RE: So this is just more from that Graz report right?  
ron mexico : 3/14/2019 1:49 pm : link
In comment 14336786 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 14336779 ChaChing said:


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If Rosen is available, NYG might be interested. But even if he is we don't know if they make an offer

Net effect of the statement was 0 and it might as well have not been said. "If yes then maybe, but even if really yes maybe not"

Professional journalism. Not just the author, but the editor and the seeming consistent errors from a major 'news outlet.' Then as said above it's also due to the 24/7 news cycle, and all us fools who still click, comment, etc even so



It was mind-boggling how bad that sentence was. I showed it to my wife, who an English literature minor, and her reaction was, "This doesn't mean anything."


yeah, they tried to spin a "no comment" into a click baity title

Even the Germans know!  
Pete from Woodstock : 3/14/2019 1:49 pm : link
Giants mit Interesse an Josh Rosen?
JR - ( New Window )
If Rosen is NOT Available...  
Jim in Tampa : 3/14/2019 1:50 pm : link
Then Murray could be.

I can't imagine that even the Cards would draft Murray AND keep Rosen.
"will explore if available"  
Capt. Don : 3/14/2019 1:51 pm : link
means they will see if they pick up the phone.

I would love to get Rosen for a 2 but I dont think it is happening.

I think we use our huge draft war chest to fill holes this year and in anticipation of next year (Jenkins? Ogletree? Ellison and Martin).

I hope we also parlay some 2019 draft assets into 2020 draft assets to be able to move up for QB1 then.
i think it is funny..  
FranchiseQB : 3/14/2019 1:52 pm : link
.. that some people think Rosen has an attitude problem because he doesn't like Trump. haha
RE: i think it is funny..  
Jints in Carolina : 3/14/2019 1:54 pm : link
In comment 14336804 FranchiseQB said:
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.. that some people think Rosen has an attitude problem because he doesn't like Trump. haha


Is that what it is? LOL
Unless  
jtgiants : 3/14/2019 1:56 pm : link
Thinking has totally changed t h e answer is no
I never  
dorgan : 3/14/2019 1:59 pm : link
saw the article or articles that outlined the issues with Rosen's "bad attitude". Someone give me a synopsis, please.
RE: i think it is funny..  
Eli Wilson : 3/14/2019 1:59 pm : link
In comment 14336804 FranchiseQB said:
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.. that some people think Rosen has an attitude problem because he doesn't like Trump. haha


Wouldn't at least half the players in the NFL feel that way? Seems like an odd thing to just pick on Rosen about.
The tape I've seen is of a QB who hung in against the rush  
WillieYoung : 3/14/2019 2:02 pm : link
That's exactly how Eli won the locker room 15 years ago even though he was the daddy's boy who dictated where he would and wouldn't play. Charlie Casserole aside, if we get Rosen I'll have to rethink my move to being a Browns fan. By the way spell check made Casserly Casserole but I like it.
RE: So letís get this straight  
Blue21 : 3/14/2019 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:
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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen


I dont't think you could compare the supposed issues Rosen has with the definite issues OBJ has.
RE: RE: So letís get this straight  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/14/2019 2:07 pm : link
In comment 14336833 Blue21 said:
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In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:


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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen



I dont't think you could compare the supposed issues Rosen has with the definite issues OBJ has.



Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Are you serious? Holy shit.

I'm against Rosen mostly because I think if the Giants thought he was good enough to be the franchise guy last year, they should have taken him at 2 and started this rebuild last year when it made sense.

But this. This belongs in a museum or something, truly.
RE: RE: So letís get this straight  
The 12th Man : 3/14/2019 2:10 pm : link
In comment 14336665 section125 said:
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In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:


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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen



All the negative shit you just posted was sort of debunked at AZ along with him not being tough. Guy survived the worst line and 55(?) sacks and never said a peep as far as I heard.
Yes JonC said the Giants had concerns, but maybe after a year in the NFL he matured and developed.


Leopards do not change their spots. He will keep his mouth shut until he is paid that 2nd deal. Once that happens he will be a nightmare no thanks!
RE: RE: RE: So letís get this straight  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2019 2:12 pm : link
In comment 14336845 The 12th Man said:
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In comment 14336665 section125 said:


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In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:


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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen



All the negative shit you just posted was sort of debunked at AZ along with him not being tough. Guy survived the worst line and 55(?) sacks and never said a peep as far as I heard.
Yes JonC said the Giants had concerns, but maybe after a year in the NFL he matured and developed.



Leopards do not change their spots. He will keep his mouth shut until he is paid that 2nd deal. Once that happens he will be a nightmare no thanks!


RE: RE: i think it is funny..  
Lambuth_Special : 3/14/2019 2:14 pm : link
In comment 14336824 Eli Wilson said:
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In comment 14336804 FranchiseQB said:


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.. that some people think Rosen has an attitude problem because he doesn't like Trump. haha



Wouldn't at least half the players in the NFL feel that way? Seems like an odd thing to just pick on Rosen about.


Yeah, I've mentioned elsewhere - Spencer Hawes, an outspoken conservative, seemed to fit into the mostly-liberal NBA until the league shifted away from no-defense playing big men.

Don't see why political views should disqualify Rosen unless it proves to be a major distraction.
If they get Rosen  
Gman11 : 3/14/2019 2:14 pm : link
then they can go into the draft to get an edge rusher at 6 and a RT at 17 - or an edge rusher and LB - or two edge rushers or - you get my drift. You get a first round QB without spending a first round draft choice. Of course, I'm assuming that they can get Rosen for a 2nd rounder and maybe something else.
Let me get this straight  
map7711 : 3/14/2019 2:15 pm : link
So we want a guy who was picked in the first round last year
Now his team wants to move on from him and take another QB in the first round again
And trade him for a- at best- a second round pick
A team that saw him all training camp and all year long and drafted him after one year wants to walk away from him for a unknown college QB?
Heís our guy?
RE: RE: RE: So letís get this straight  
Leg of Theismann : 3/14/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14336845 The 12th Man said:
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In comment 14336644 The 12th Man said:


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We just traded an actual not potential an actual Superstar whose teammates love him. Because of off field issues. Yet we should trade for a guy who is know as not the best teammate, has attitude problems but because his initials are not OBJ, yeah, this is the guy to lead our team. Seriously? I have enough of this. No to Rosen



All the negative shit you just posted was sort of debunked at AZ along with him not being tough. Guy survived the worst line and 55(?) sacks and never said a peep as far as I heard.
Yes JonC said the Giants had concerns, but maybe after a year in the NFL he matured and developed.



Leopards do not change their spots. He will keep his mouth shut until he is paid that 2nd deal. Once that happens he will be a nightmare no thanks!


And your basing this hypothesis on what evidence exactly? Leopards don't change their spots, what exactly are Rosen's "spots" that you are so sure he has and please cite a specific incident that proves it. At least the guy you were replying to gave evidence of Rosen's actual behavior during a year of playing in the NFL.
RE: Let me get this straight  
Lambuth_Special : 3/14/2019 2:17 pm : link
In comment 14336868 map7711 said:
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So we want a guy who was picked in the first round last year
Now his team wants to move on from him and take another QB in the first round again
And trade him for a- at best- a second round pick
A team that saw him all training camp and all year long and drafted him after one year wants to walk away from him for a unknown college QB?
Heís our guy?


1. Cards want to move on from him mainly because of the Kingsberry (sp) connection with Murray.
2. In wanting to draft Murray, they lose a ton of leverage in what they can get from Rosen, because everyone knows they would need to jettison him.
RE: If they get Rosen  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2019 2:19 pm : link
In comment 14336864 Gman11 said:
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then they can go into the draft to get an edge rusher at 6 and a RT at 17 - or an edge rusher and LB - or two edge rushers or - you get my drift. You get a first round QB without spending a first round draft choice. Of course, I'm assuming that they can get Rosen for a 2nd rounder and maybe something else.


It's possible team(s) with multiple 1st rd picks like the Raiders or Packers could offer one of those picks for Rosen.
Invariably when an Ďoutletí connects Rosen to the Giants...  
Torrag : 3/14/2019 2:28 pm : link
...it comes from the worst, most unreliable, irrelevant sports sources in existence. And the BBI Rosen contingent laps it up every time. Itís amusing.
RE: Unless  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 2:47 pm : link
In comment 14336817 jtgiants said:
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Thinking has totally changed t h e answer is no


based on what? you said big things were happening lol i didnt get much work done because of it LMFAO
this  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 2:50 pm : link
is seriously a no brainer. you get him for insanely cheap money wise and a 2 or 3 whyen we have 12 picks. if he sucks or he has an attitude we cant just cut bait and go for a 2020 QB. its so low risk high reward, giants would be crazy notto do it if they can agree to a deal.


plus the whole we didnt take him at 2. we liked barkley better. we didnt want to take a chance with 2 overall but with a 3rd, he could be worth a risk to check his attitude and mindset.
Three big questions with Rosen last year were:  
CT Charlie : 3/14/2019 3:01 pm : link
1) desire, 2) durability (concussions) and 3) toughness. If you've watched the all-passing-plays video of Rosen getting pounded behind a TERRIBLE line, you'll see that the questions have been answered. And he's a better passer than Eli has been in years, arguably even ever.
click bait!  
The Dude : 3/14/2019 3:12 pm : link
just like OBJ rumors were!
Maybe it is not about the money to DG and the Giants,  
TMS : 3/14/2019 3:17 pm : link
Maybe it is how he will fit with this team. Just cleaned out a few guys for that reason. Maybe it is about medical history. Maybe we really like another QB next year. We will find out soon enough.
RE: Maybe it is not about the money to DG and the Giants,  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14337064 TMS said:
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Maybe it is how he will fit with this team. Just cleaned out a few guys for that reason. Maybe it is about medical history. Maybe we really like another QB next year. We will find out soon enough.


very possible but we havent heard alot of bad about rosen in his first year. plus he took a fucking beating and dint complain once and he stayed healthy. id said he answered a couple questions about his flaws in his first year
Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
micky : 3/14/2019 3:22 pm : link
Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now
RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
Jeff : 3/14/2019 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14337076 micky said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now


huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?
RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14337110 Jeff said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?


yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.
RE: this  
MotownGIANTS : 3/14/2019 3:38 pm : link
In comment 14336964 BleedBlue said:
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is seriously a no brainer. you get him for insanely cheap money wise and a 2 or 3 whyen we have 12 picks. if he sucks or he has an attitude we cant just cut bait and go for a 2020 QB. its so low risk high reward, giants would be crazy notto do it if they can agree to a deal.


plus the whole we didnt take him at 2. we liked barkley better. we didnt want to take a chance with 2 overall but with a 3rd, he could be worth a risk to check his attitude and mindset.


Boom ...
RE: RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2019 3:41 pm : link
In comment 14337114 BleedBlue said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?



yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.


Itís not a given Rosen wouldnít require a first.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 3:50 pm : link
In comment 14337137 GFAN52 said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?



yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.



Itís not a given Rosen wouldnít require a first.


sure its possible z team like pats offer #32, but we can offer #37 and a 2020 pick...they might find that more entertaining considering we will probably be bad again.

only way it gets to that is if there is a bidding war. chances are there will be 2-3 teams interested, but the cards dont have much leverage
The Pats, I think, have even more  
Bill in UT : 3/14/2019 4:06 pm : link
draft picks than we do to play with. But how much would they want to spend on a guy who will be unhappy sitting behind Brady after being a starter, and how many years will be left on his rookie deal by the time Brady retires? Plus, if Rosen hates Trump, he probably hates Kraft and Brady also, lol.
RE: RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
Thegratefulhead : 3/14/2019 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14337114 BleedBlue said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?



yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.
YUP! We could be like Green Bay and steal a Favre-like talent.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
GFAN52 : 3/14/2019 5:15 pm : link
In comment 14337170 BleedBlue said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?



yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.



Itís not a given Rosen wouldnít require a first.



sure its possible z team like pats offer #32, but we can offer #37 and a 2020 pick...they might find that more entertaining considering we will probably be bad again.

only way it gets to that is if there is a bidding war. chances are there will be 2-3 teams interested, but the cards dont have much leverage


Raiders have 3 firsts and the Packers have 2 firsts. Both of those teams could be interested in Rosen.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Lol couldve had him last yr just drafting  
FranchiseQB : 3/14/2019 8:15 pm : link
In comment 14337622 GFAN52 said:
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Now have to give up picks..brilliant..i know barkley barkley barkley.. but no foresight amongst this org now



huh??..so if they get him for a 2nd round pick this year it would be worse than if they used the no 2 overall pick last year ?!?! How is that a bad thing?



yea micky your logic is skewed here...we could have BOTH for a first and a second whereas NO WAY we could acquire barkley for a second. we got INSANELY lucky on the timing of this entire thing. cards hired kings who LOVES murray and they happen to be picking one the year murray comes out. again this is a rare chance to acquire a potential franchise guy without using a serious resource that is a first rounder.



Itís not a given Rosen wouldnít require a first.



sure its possible z team like pats offer #32, but we can offer #37 and a 2020 pick...they might find that more entertaining considering we will probably be bad again.

only way it gets to that is if there is a bidding war. chances are there will be 2-3 teams interested, but the cards dont have much leverage



Raiders have 3 firsts and the Packers have 2 firsts. Both of those teams could be interested in Rosen.


why on earth would the packers be interested in rosen?
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