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OBJ never wanted out of NY

BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 3:37 pm
According to NFLN.

Doesnt change the fact ownership probably wanted him gone.

still interesting because i think many of us thought he kind of did want out and thought he was being held back by Eli
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Sure he didnt  
dep026 : 3/14/2019 3:38 pm : link
just like I never wanted to win the powerball.
As Eric has alluded to  
Lionhart28 : 3/14/2019 3:39 pm : link
Kim Jones going out of her way to defend all things OBJ
Kim Jones sounds like a political campaign manager  
j_rud : 3/14/2019 3:39 pm : link
It's like she's personally invested lol
Then why the ESPN interview?  
gmen4ever : 3/14/2019 3:39 pm : link
That was probably the beginning of the end...
RE: Then why the ESPN interview?  
BleedBlue : 3/14/2019 3:40 pm : link
In comment 14337128 gmen4ever said:
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That was probably the beginning of the end...



Yes, i tend to agree there. i actually rewatched that yesterday and it ABSOLUTELY sounded like he didnt want to be in NY and that we were holding him back.
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Britt in VA : 3/14/2019 3:41 pm : link
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Odell Beckham Jr

Verified account

@obj
Follow Follow @obj
More Odell Beckham Jr Retweeted Kimberly Jones
Kim I cant thank u enough for what uve done for me and my career. The side convos, the real life convos, I love u so much ! Always in ur corner and rooting for u. Were blessed to still have u in this world ! N P.S smile this aint a goodbye ! My phone will always work for u!!!
It was within his power to stay  
JonC : 3/14/2019 3:41 pm : link
just don't be an ungrateful dipshit and do things like the interview. I don't buy it.
There are enough signs that he is a punk  
SLIM_ : 3/14/2019 3:41 pm : link
Maybe he never wanted out but he didn't conduct himself in a manner which showed that.
was it Kim that is reporting this?  
figgy2989 : 3/14/2019 3:41 pm : link
Man, I know she was made to look like a fool by adamantly denying all the trade rumors, but come on.

Maybe there were a little more than just "professional" in their relationship?
Her twitter feed  
montanagiant : 3/14/2019 3:42 pm : link
Read like two lovers breaking up. It was absurd for a sports reporter to have this much vested interest in one player
Despite liking Beckham,  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 3:43 pm : link
I think he kinda did, at the very least, deep down inside, I think he wanted out. And I don't blame him. *shrug*
Maybe not  
Kyle in NY : 3/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
but it's not hard to see it getting to that point with another season like last year. And at that point we may have found that his trade value has already peaked and we're settling for an offer similar to what the Steelers got.
RE: Her twitter feed  
Capt. Don : 3/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
In comment 14337142 montanagiant said:
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Read like two lovers breaking up. It was absurd for a sports reporter to have this much vested interest in one player


I like Kim but it was an awkward exchange even by Twitter standards.
you tell a coach "fuck you"  
bc4life : 3/14/2019 3:44 pm : link
in response to a coach's comment - you're indicating that you want off that team, whether you know it or not.
The Jones/Beckham thing is kind off odd.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 3:45 pm : link
Just like it was when she was almost campaigning for the Giants to draft Beckham this time last year.
The grass is always greener.....  
MOOPS : 3/14/2019 3:45 pm : link






...until you get a look at Cleveland.
Are you happy in New York?  
totowa_gman : 3/14/2019 3:45 pm : link
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The New York Giants wide receiver spoke out on a number of issues in an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson that ran on Sunday NFL Countdown. Perhaps most notably, Beckham admitted he's unsure if he's happy with the Giants.

"It's a tough question," Beckham said. "Obviously, I love seeing the sunshine all the time. I love, you know, I love being in L.A. I just like that atmosphere, but this is where I'm at. I remember before games, I used to get that. I used to get butterflies, like good butterflies. I was anxious. And now when I step on the field, it's something completely different. It's not butterflies.



It's a tough question. - ( New Window )
*draft Barkley last year, not Beckham.  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 3:45 pm : link
Obviously.
Well he's out now  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/14/2019 3:46 pm : link
Time to move fwd... So lets
Who cares  
Alex_Webster : 3/14/2019 3:48 pm : link
Enjoy Cleveland, say hello to Lebron......wait he left not once twice. Twice and he was from there. Enjoy OBJ!!!!

it's not always so calculated  
PerpetualNervousness : 3/14/2019 3:51 pm : link
i think people make way too much of that interview, that it was some sort of strategic plot. i get it, OBJ seems pretty sophisticated about the media, so therefore if he didn't spout the company line he must be trying to accomplish something. or maybe he was asked a question and in that moment he gave an honest answer, and didnt really plot and plan.

i do think not enough is made of how personally john mara took it. this is a business. guys get cut all the time. the Giants paid him the going rate for a WR with his talents, they didn't give him a gift. we make fun of players who take their contract offers personally, who get offended by a team not trying to keep them in free agency. in the end, that guy wanted to win as much as any player I've ever watched, even if it sometimes got the best of him. who cares if he thinks he'd like to live in LA one day. not me
I always felt he was self distructive  
George from PA : 3/14/2019 3:52 pm : link
He lets his emotion runs him


Not intentionally self distructive....
RE: you tell a coach  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14337155 bc4life said:
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in response to a coach's comment - you're indicating that you want off that team, whether you know it or not.


None of these people would last a minute in the NBA... coaches or players. Kobe Bryant once demanded a trade from the Lakers. They ignored him and most importantly FIXED the team. They won 2 more championships. If the Giants are incapable of dealing with something as unimportant as the ESPN interview, then it's questionable whether they can deal with anything.
Okay there you have it  
The 12th Man : 3/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
So make the trade to bring him back.
It wasn't solely the interview either  
JonC : 3/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
but it served as a flashpoint for a lot of aggravated people.
Wait until he realizes that the Southeast Ohio nightlife  
Jints in Carolina : 3/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
is a little bit different than it is in Manhattan on a Tuesday night.
RE: It was within his power to stay  
dorgan : 3/14/2019 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14337136 JonC said:
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just don't be an ungrateful dipshit and do things like the interview. I don't buy it.


Agreed. He's more responsible for the trade than anyone else.
Too bad, he's a great talent. So many great talents never realize their potential because of self-destructive traits. I wonder if he's going to end up in that category.
Loved to watch him play  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 3/14/2019 3:56 pm : link
but if he wanted to stay, he had a funny way of showing it. He never bought in to be a team player.
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Stan in LA : 3/14/2019 3:57 pm : link
RE: Wait until he realizes that the Southeast Ohio nightlife  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/14/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14337183 Jints in Carolina said:
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is a little bit different than it is in Manhattan on a Tuesday night.


Northeastern... but we know what u meant ;-P
RE: Wait until he realizes that the Southeast Ohio nightlife  
Diver_Down : 3/14/2019 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14337183 Jints in Carolina said:
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is a little bit different than it is in Manhattan on a Tuesday night.


Southeast Ohio is that close to the Mid-West? j/k
LOL dammit  
Jints in Carolina : 3/14/2019 3:59 pm : link
you think I would know better....my sister lives up there!
I think he wanted to leave  
BigBlueShock : 3/14/2019 4:00 pm : link
But he wanted to leave for LA. Whether he had reason to believe he would end up with the Rams, I have no idea. Im sure there were discussions. Now that hes in Clevelsnd, reality has set in for him. Shit, Im in Cleveland?

Just my opinion. I honestly think for whatever reason he was convinced if he were traded it would be to LA. Oops!!!
Yes I can reasonably  
section125 : 3/14/2019 4:01 pm : link
conclude that the Giants wanted to keep Beckham as of last summer to the tune of $95 mill.

Oh well.
There seem to be many sides to him. He seems to be a good natured  
Ira : 3/14/2019 4:01 pm : link
person and a very hard worker, but at times he seems like the kid who's looking for the cookie jar and always gets caught.
He is going to drive everyone in Cleveland crazy  
Jints in Carolina : 3/14/2019 4:02 pm : link
Wait until he wants out for the west coast.
He absolutely did.  
Default : 3/14/2019 4:03 pm : link
His career(however it may turn out)was being pissed away here with mismanagement.
RE: Then why the ESPN interview?  
ron mexico : 3/14/2019 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14337128 gmen4ever said:
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That was probably the beginning of the end...


Maybe he say problems with the organization that could not be address through internal channels?

RE: RE: Then why the ESPN interview?  
j_rud : 3/14/2019 4:07 pm : link
In comment 14337213 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14337128 gmen4ever said:


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That was probably the beginning of the end...



Maybe he say problems with the organization that could not be address through internal channels?


Yup, sometimes your boss just won't listen and you gotta call up Weezy and ESPN
RE: It wasn't solely the interview either  
jcn56 : 3/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14337182 JonC said:
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but it served as a flashpoint for a lot of aggravated people.


Missing games with an injury that they felt he was milking is one thing - but if they really got that triggered by a lousy interview, then the Giants are never going to manage to field a roster going forward. Players aren't controlled in the same manner anymore, and they're going to say and do things on social media that management doesn't like.
RE: He is going to drive everyone in Cleveland crazy  
montanagiant : 3/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14337208 Jints in Carolina said:
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Wait until he wants out for the west coast.

Especially when there's only one ball split between Landrey, Hunt, OBJ, Chubb, and Njoku. at least 2-3 of them are going to be pissing and moaning
RE: RE: you tell a coach  
ron mexico : 3/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14337179 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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In comment 14337155 bc4life said:


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in response to a coach's comment - you're indicating that you want off that team, whether you know it or not.



None of these people would last a minute in the NBA... coaches or players. Kobe Bryant once demanded a trade from the Lakers. They ignored him and most importantly FIXED the team. They won 2 more championships. If the Giants are incapable of dealing with something as unimportant as the ESPN interview, then it's questionable whether they can deal with anything.


well said

If the interview is the main reason he is off the team, that is an incitement of management and ownership.

Im sure he didnt. Just like he didnt  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
Want the picture of him and his classy lady friend and all their Coke to get posted on social media.

I dont think hes a bad kid. I think hes the type of guy that will continually be a Pai. in the ass. And for all the talk of his talent he wasnt anywhere near near the talent LT was. Doesnt mean he isnt an eventual HOF level guy but yeah. LT changed football. Maybe is te nextkost talented player. But without production, results, and the off field stuff he became expendable. And yeah. It may be a mistake still but hes the reason he isnt a Giant
OBJ...  
Brown_Hornet : 3/14/2019 4:08 pm : link
...is old news.

Move on.
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ghost718 : 3/14/2019 4:09 pm : link
RE: RE: It wasn't solely the interview either  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14337219 jcn56 said:
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In comment 14337182 JonC said:


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but it served as a flashpoint for a lot of aggravated people.



Missing games with an injury that they felt he was milking is one thing - but if they really got that triggered by a lousy interview, then the Giants are never going to manage to field a roster going forward. Players aren't controlled in the same manner anymore, and they're going to say and do things on social media that management doesn't like.


Yep. The game and the business are moving in a more progressive direction. It's better the Giants learn to live and deal with this now as things go more and more in that direction before they lose anyother generational talents.
The part of that interview that got pissed Mara  
ajr2456 : 3/14/2019 4:10 pm : link
Off was him criticizing Eli. The Giants have chosen Eli over the betterment of the franchise.

He doesnt bring up Eli in that interview and hes still a Giant.
I wonder when the 1st Party Boat Cruise on Lake Erie will be???  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/14/2019 4:10 pm : link
RE: It was within his power to stay  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2019 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14337136 JonC said:
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just don't be an ungrateful dipshit and do things like the interview. I don't buy it.


Honestly I don't think he has much control over his mouth and what he says. It's called immaturity. I think he has that in spades.

I don't think he did that interview to express that he wanted to leave New York. I think he just says whatever imaginary tweet happens in his head in the moment.
I think Beckham is going to do great in Cleveland and they will win  
NoGainDayne : 3/14/2019 4:12 pm : link
for all the talk of character. He seems to be a guy that wants to be great more than most and wants to win more than most. That should be paramount in evaluating character.

A lot of people thought Baker Mayfield might have questionable character too. Those guys are winners not the traditional personality sense but the new versions. Guys that build their brand but put in the work too.

When that happens everyone here is going to come out and say that we had to do it or we couldn't make this work. All the things that we seem to think we "had to do" in the name of getting ourselves into this mess of a roster is starting to add up.

It is not a one way street anymore, employment doesn't work that it is always the person lower on the totem pole's fault and there needs to be this implicit reverence. Respect should be earned on an ongoing basis and i'm sorry but someone that inherited a team and fortune shouldn't get literally grandfathered into trust but this seems to be a popular opinion.

Did Beckham handle this perfectly? No. Did Mara? No. Yet everyone seems to want to act like this is Beckham's fault.

All these people saying Beckham wasn't about "team" well you know who should be more about "team" MARA. And he oversaw a big decline in our talent viability as a franchise.

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