"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Except the Giants.
New York's once proud franchise -- now amongst the NFL's most dysfunctional, only saved from total public derision by the blue-chip aura that somehow still pervades the club courtesy of a narrative spoon-fed to us over the years -- never had a plan.
The Giants got punched in the mouth anyway. Their counterpunch looks feeble at best.
Dave Gettleman, the only GM in recent memory to draft a running back in the top 10 of back-to-back NFL drafts for two different franchises, tried to sell the trade of Odell Beckham to the Browns as something the Giants needed to do, a bold move part of a bigger strategy.
"You can win while you build a roster," Gettleman said. "We do have a plan, and this is a part of it.""
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They can be whatever personal award you want they are still...running backs.
1) The Giants are a dysfunctional franchise;
2) a large contingent of the Giants fan base will buy anything the franchise sells them;
3) DG was selling everyone on a quick fix last year;
4) DG has no track record for finding a qb;
5) Whose the last team to win a title with a high paid rb; and
6) this is a pass heavy league where you need good to great qb play to win
Because you don't like the source of the information or the reality of the situation does not mean everyone has an agenda. Reality is, the Giants are a mess.
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an All Pro and ROTY, respectively. No agenda here lol.
They can be whatever personal award you want they are still...running backs.
One certain elite RB was missed for the Rams. Wasn't he? Elite backs are mismatches and difference makers.
What difference have elite WAr's done, exactly?
The majority of writers do not think we are doing a good job. Maybe some of them aren't good but there seems to be this idea around here that the writers that agree with us are good writers and the ones that don't are not.
Little frustrating. Will is also from North Carolina too if that helps.
Giants only need a better oline and they can be there.
Just sayin.
The majority of writers do not think we are doing a good job. Maybe some of them aren't good but there seems to be this idea around here that the writers that agree with us are good writers and the ones that don't are not.
Oh bullshit. The Giants are targeted by the media every fucking year. EVERY YEAR. Even our two SB wins were grudgingly accepted
It's probably good news, since the overwhelming majority of sports media hacks are complete know-nothings and using negativity to attract attention.
Just tune out the noise and make your own decision on what you think of the moves. That's all you can do.
I like the Giants but I do not agree with their approach at all, I think they are a dumb organization. I wish I rooted for a smart organization but that’s beyond my control, as a fan you are just along for the ride. The Knicks have been dumb forever and now the Giants are dumb too. At least the Giants won somewhat recently.
I don’t think there’s any harm as a fan in saying “these decisions are fucking stupid” if you think that’s the case. I am not going to “go to the mat” for DG because people in the media are accurately criticizing the organization.
The whole premise of having a plan until you get punched doesn't even make sense in the context of what's been going on with the Giants. It's not like they had a plan and it was derailed bc of some unforeseen curveball. Don't get me wrong, the case can definitely be made to knock the FO. But that's just poorly written.
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different people in the media knocking certain moves and questioning the direction of this franchise before people start acknowledging that this isn't some kind of targeted hit by the media on us.
The majority of writers do not think we are doing a good job. Maybe some of them aren't good but there seems to be this idea around here that the writers that agree with us are good writers and the ones that don't are not.
Oh bullshit. The Giants are targeted by the media every fucking year. EVERY YEAR. Even our two SB wins were grudgingly accepted
I like and respect you BB, but this is homerism. There is no target on the back of the Giants that isn’t on any team when it is down.
I like the Giants but I do not agree with their approach at all, I think they are a dumb organization. I wish I rooted for a smart organization but that’s beyond my control, as a fan you are just along for the ride. The Knicks have been dumb forever and now the Giants are dumb too. At least the Giants won somewhat recently.
I don’t think there’s any harm as a fan in saying “these decisions are fucking stupid” if you think that’s the case. I am not going to “go to the mat” for DG because people in the media are accurately criticizing the organization.
Excellent post. Supporting and rooting for the team doesn’t mean blindly accepting or defending every decision they make.
I was a fan of Beckham and understand how talented he is. But that is an absurd statement. I honestly don't think he's a top 5 WR right now let alone of all time.
And how can he argue he's not injury prone? He's missed a ton of games.
Lastly, can he at least spell Francesa's name correctly. Its comical how bad many of these sports writers are nowadays.
Not going to argue it's debatable. But here's my 5.
Jones
Hopkins
Brown
Hill
Thomas
Green
I just think stating he has the potential to be a top 5 WR of all time is outlandish. I also think he lost a step after the injury and doesn't possess the same breakaway explosiveness he had.
Not denying his talent, just think this has gone overboard.
5) Whose the last team to win a title with a high paid rb;
Marshawn Lynch, 2015. Oh wait...
I refuse to read that shit. Let's wait 'till the games start. However, it may be a slow start with all the new faces again.
Frist thing was to fix the OLine - some guys didnt' work out but they played a helluva lot betters second half of season. Just solved RG problem - just have to lock in RT - expecting this happens in FA and maybe add one at 17th pick. Evene if they don't - will still add some rookie OL. Cutting Flowers was a big move.
Fixed the safety position. added a 3rd round cb. Haley played well.
Need pass rush - Vernon wasn't the answer, moved him and will probably be major part of 1st couple of draft picks.
Got rid of Odell. Tate should compensate some of his productivity.
Only part of plan that isn't readily apparent is Eli's successor. And we don't want that part of the plan revealed until it is executed.
Again, plan is crystal clear.
1. We didn't sign him to trade him. Trade Odell.
2. The PR spin was that OBJ was a distraction to justify the trade; fine. Then sign Golden Tate who is definitely a bigger asshole than OBJ (broke into a donut shop, fought Percy Harvin, etc)? That makes no sense.
3. The re-load last year as opposed to the re-build.
Everything seems contradictory or reactionary. I'll withhold judgement until after the draft, but i don't have a lot of confidence in the front of office.
But he said - first thing they had to do was fix OLine - few misses notwithstanding, that was the initial focus.
and of this season, DG's party line has been that the defense failed to get stops.
In sum, he's continued to work on OLIne. Defense, especially front 7 will be focus of early draft picks (of course, based on value)
Whether or not Gettleman does a good job executing on the plan remains to be seen. He has to have another big time draft like last year.
But he said - first thing they had to do was fix OLine - few misses notwithstanding, that was the initial focus.
and of this season, DG's party line has been that the defense failed to get stops.
In sum, he's continued to work on OLIne. Defense, especially front 7 will be focus of early draft picks (of course, based on value)
I am trying to look at it over time. Beckham was traded because he was a 'distraction'. Who do they sign? A guy who has been a bigger distraction and worse teammate than Beckham ever was.
If you want to trade Beckham, fine. Don't call him a distraction and then sign a distraction. That's how you lose credibility.
The idea of tanking is just horse shit. And this idea that the giants aren’t building with the future in mind because Eli hasn’t been cut is more horseshit.
The giants have 12 draft picks. They have also gotten younger the last year or so. But yeah, they don’t have a plan. Fuck outta here. The plan is to add as many good players as possible. Not a hard concept.
Ps the giants are poised to have a shit load of cap room next offseason. But there is no plan. Bullshit.
Perfect, let's do do that! Where do we start you say? Get rid of all the good players we have on this team many for underwhelming returns and in the case of Landon Collins maybe nothing when we have various opportunities to get something out of it?
If you think there is any chance you sign free agents this year and like everyone says no way Collins signs the tender slap that franchise tag on him like there is no tomorrow. Oh you are going to piss him off you think? Pissing off players doesn't seem to matter to DG at all in other situations but all of a sudden a potentially hostile franchise tag relationship is a problem for us?
You know what the best part about being djm is? Never needing to back up anything you say with anything other than pure conjecture.
Like has djm ever strategized before? For big life decisions does he just talk with incredibly certainty without having even a reasonably coherent framework for backing up the basis for the decision?
At least Pan handler is an endearing cockeyed optimist. djm is somehow both a blind optimist and a jerk at the same time. Much like the points he makes it is difficult to comprehend the logic.
DG clearly wants to set his own locker room culture and have a ton of cap space going forward.
Good, bad, I don't know yet. But as far as I can see, that's the plan.