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Golden Tate to NYG

JoeyBigBlue : 3/14/2019 4:40 pm
According to Shefter
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Not a bad signing at all  
MM_in_NYC : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
I hope the contract is structured so that we can get out of it easily in two years. Stop gap.
The guy  
TommyWiseau : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
4 years $37.5 mill  
section125 : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
$23 mill guaranteed? Seems a bit much.
the "rebuild" continues!  
Enzo : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
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RE: ...  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14337401 Eric from BBI said:
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Field Yates
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I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.

I agree with that statement.
I know Tate was technically the Lions  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
#1 and he caught a lot of balls.
BOOOOOOOooooooooooo  
KWALL2 : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
We have a Golden Tate already on our team. Not a fan of this move at any price.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2019 4:48 pm : link
In comment 14337382 Brown Recluse said:
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Tate is still very good/productive - I just feel like he and Shepard are a bit redundant.

Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB



Which means they might not resign Shepard next year because hes gonna get a huge deal from someone


Very possible - and I'd be fine with that if we decide to have Tate man the slot the next 2-3-4 years (depending on where our out is in this deal/if we'll even need to use it) and then go bigger on the outside.

I'd like to get some bigger, more physical guys here.

I also wouldn't mind DK Metcalf @ 17.
RE: ...  
Enzo : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14337401 Eric from BBI said:
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Field Yates
‏Verified account @FieldYates
13s13 seconds ago

I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.

seems like nearly EVERY person that covers the league feels the same.
I just don't get it tho  
Anando : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
Are we trying to tank?

Are we trying to sign quality players?

Each move we make just seems contradictory of the previous one
Damn  
KWALL2 : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
I hope those numbers aren't accurate. Shep is better and younger. Bad move. We suck.
RE: 4 years $37.5 mill  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14337411 section125 said:
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$23 mill guaranteed? Seems a bit much.


Don't worry... Tua will love him.
Can he really co-exist with Sterling Shepard?  
Tesla : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
Does this make Shepard trade bait?
74 receptions for 795 yards  
johnnyb : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
in 2018. Productive. We neeed some experience especially if we draft a WR
I wonder if they consider trading Shepard  
Go Terps : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
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What......the fuck  
Anakim : 3/14/2019 4:49 pm : link
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Tommy he's been shit the past  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2019 4:50 pm : link
two seasons? The past two seasons he has 166 catches.
You guys are too focused on the money.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/14/2019 4:50 pm : link
We can afford almost anyone we want. The path is still through the draft
Tate was not the Lions #1  
KWALL2 : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
He was the #3. A slot guy. And slowing down.

Its a bad move. This guy isn't worth these numbers.

He's an OK #3 but Id rather go with a young guy and cheap option as a #3.
RE: The guy  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.

WTF are you talking about. He just finished a 5 year 31 million dollar contract. He had 74 receptions last year and over 90 receptions each year for the previous 4 seasons. Your math sucks
RE: Good player but not really what they need  
NoGainDayne : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337407 Greg from LI said:
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And really not liking the amount of guaranteed money.


We are trying to repeat our dead money title crown! With all the contracts we just shed it's going to be tough. Don't count DG out though. He's no nonsense.
This place is amazing...  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
it really is. For two days everyone is shitting themselves complaining we will have the worst WR corp in the league. Now we sign a really nice player at market value, and you still hate it. This place is unreal sometimes.
RE: I wonder if they consider trading Shepard  
Big Blue '56 : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337424 Go Terps said:
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My thought exactly
You do not give $23M guaranteed  
Leg of Theismann : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
to a 30 yr old receiver in today's NFL. End of story. How the hell did DG cut Steve Smith, a future hall of famer, but signs Golden Tate to play for the Giants for his 30s?

BTW- I had forgotten the DG quote about Analytics being "nonsense" was in response to a question about signing Jonathon Stewart. Players become washed up, end of story. NFL stands for Not For Long. Everyone knows that. Just because the guy shows a slight flash of speed in some random game the year before does not mean he has "plenty left in the tank" and you sign him to 3-4 year deal. Every player has their LAST great day at some point, the great ones are able to know when that is.
RE: does this  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337377 The Dude said:
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negate the Landon comp pick we'd receive?


Way too early to analyze the loss of a pick. Depends on who we lose and sign in the future and their salaries.
RE: RE: Just terrible  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337403 Big Blue '56 said:
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Ugh - wow thats bad



Cmon Jim, we needed some talent there. The futures the draft. With 12 picks, we should be able to find a good one


You're on board with signing 30 year old free agents now?
RE: You guys are too focused on the money.  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
In comment 14337429 Big Blue '56 said:
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We can afford almost anyone we want. The path is still through the draft


Does that mean that overpaying older, good but limited players is a good idea?
so what will  
Enzo : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
his cap hit be in 2020 when DG trades him?
Hate it  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
I saw an end zone celebration in the highlights. Me first player.
I hate this  
phil in arizona : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
We already have Shep and Engram. Another slot guy?
KWALL  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2019 4:51 pm : link
you also thought Corey Coleman was going to be a beast. Tate isn't slowing down.He got traded midseason and the Eagles didn't know how to use him.
Its a fine  
bigfrank612 : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
Signing. Quit bitching. Eli, Rosen, Haskins, Kyler, whoever it is, needs someone to throw too. Get a damn grip! Not youre money guys...
We have enough people that can play the slot  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
Sherpard, Engram, and now Golden.

Who's playing on the outside?
RE: Hate it  
Chris in Philly : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14337440 mikeinbloomfield said:
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I saw an end zone celebration in the highlights. Me first player.


(blink)
RE: The guy  
Big Rick in FL : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.


Golden Tate was making 15 million last year? Don't think so
We need to see the details on the $23 million guaranteed  
MM_in_NYC : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
It may not all be for skill.

I'm guessing (read: hoping) that at least 1/3 is for injury only. We need to be able to get out of this in two years and have less than $5 million in dead money.
I mean...  
Anakim : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
He was the best WR on the market with Tyrell Williams out, but...I don't get it and not for that amount.

IDK. I don't like it. Tate does most of his damage in the slot anyway, no? Shep should be in the slot.
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Gmen88 : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14337401 Eric from BBI said:
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Field Yates
‏Verified account @FieldYates
13s13 seconds ago

I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.


My thoughts exactly.
RE: This place is amazing...  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14337433 ryanmkeane said:
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it really is. For two days everyone is shitting themselves complaining we will have the worst WR corp in the league. Now we sign a really nice player at market value, and you still hate it. This place is unreal sometimes.


Wave those pom-poms, baby!
RE: The guy  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.


92 catches, 1003 yards and 5 scores is "shit" ?

The great offshoot of this  
NoGainDayne : 3/14/2019 4:52 pm : link
we are going to match our high powered rushing offense up with two of the smaller receivers in the league and one of the worst blocking tight ends. Not to mention this is a guy that lives on cutting it outside!

More consistent strategies here from our fearless leaders.
a slot receiver?  
bluepepper : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
Puzzling. He's a good player and we're not paying a ton but we've got a good slot guy who has so far not shown he can play outside.
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Pan-handler : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14337354 arcarsenal said:
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Tate is still very good/productive - I just feel like he and Shepard are a bit redundant.

Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB


Yeah Arc...not the ideal complement to Shep but Ill take it. He is a consistent performer and big upgrade to anyone else on the roster at WR except Shepard.
RE: RE: Hate it  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14337445 Chris in Philly said:
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I saw an end zone celebration in the highlights. Me first player.



(blink)


I'm guessing it was sarcasm grounded in people's whining about Beckham. I think?
RE: so what will  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14337439 Enzo said:
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his cap hit be in 2020 when DG trades him?


Cuts him.
RE: RE: You guys are too focused on the money.  
Big Blue '56 : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14337438 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14337429 Big Blue '56 said:


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We can afford almost anyone we want. The path is still through the draft



Does that mean that overpaying older, good but limited players is a good idea?


It means, BFD..We still have the draft to improve the receiving moving forward
RE: The guy  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.


That's inaccurate. He was good from 14-17. 4 straight seasons of 90 catches and over a thousand yards.
How can you not like this move  
eric2425ny : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
guy is a YAC machine, and has been durable throughout his career. Now we have him, Shepherd, and presumably a taller receiver will be taken in the draft, possibly two more with all of the picks we have.
Biggest concern with Tate  
kash94 : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
is that he is 30 and he really tailed off end of last year.

First 4 games of the year - 7 catches per game, 97 yards per game.
Last 11 games of the year - 4 catches per game, 37 yards per game.

Now maybe part of that was going to a new system in Philly mid-year, but that's very concerning.
The Giants had arguably  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2019 4:53 pm : link
the worst WR core and they just added a solid veteran to a fair deal. Why are so many overreacting to this. They need help there they weren't going into the season with Bennie Fowler and Corey Coleman as their #2 and #3 WR's.
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