Field Yates
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I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
Tate is still very good/productive - I just feel like he and Shepard are a bit redundant.
Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB
Which means they might not resign Shepard next year because hes gonna get a huge deal from someone
Very possible - and I'd be fine with that if we decide to have Tate man the slot the next 2-3-4 years (depending on where our out is in this deal/if we'll even need to use it) and then go bigger on the outside.
I'd like to get some bigger, more physical guys here.
Field Yates
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I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
seems like nearly EVERY person that covers the league feels the same.
was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
WTF are you talking about. He just finished a 5 year 31 million dollar contract. He had 74 receptions last year and over 90 receptions each year for the previous 4 seasons. Your math sucks
And really not liking the amount of guaranteed money.
We are trying to repeat our dead money title crown! With all the contracts we just shed it's going to be tough. Don't count DG out though. He's no nonsense.
it really is. For two days everyone is shitting themselves complaining we will have the worst WR corp in the league. Now we sign a really nice player at market value, and you still hate it. This place is unreal sometimes.
to a 30 yr old receiver in today's NFL. End of story. How the hell did DG cut Steve Smith, a future hall of famer, but signs Golden Tate to play for the Giants for his 30s?
BTW- I had forgotten the DG quote about Analytics being "nonsense" was in response to a question about signing Jonathon Stewart. Players become washed up, end of story. NFL stands for Not For Long. Everyone knows that. Just because the guy shows a slight flash of speed in some random game the year before does not mean he has "plenty left in the tank" and you sign him to 3-4 year deal. Every player has their LAST great day at some point, the great ones are able to know when that is.
I'm guessing (read: hoping) that at least 1/3 is for injury only. We need to be able to get out of this in two years and have less than $5 million in dead money.
Field Yates
Verified account @FieldYates
13s13 seconds ago
I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
it really is. For two days everyone is shitting themselves complaining we will have the worst WR corp in the league. Now we sign a really nice player at market value, and you still hate it. This place is unreal sometimes.
we are going to match our high powered rushing offense up with two of the smaller receivers in the league and one of the worst blocking tight ends. Not to mention this is a guy that lives on cutting it outside!
More consistent strategies here from our fearless leaders.
Tate is still very good/productive - I just feel like he and Shepard are a bit redundant.
Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB
Yeah Arc...not the ideal complement to Shep but Ill take it. He is a consistent performer and big upgrade to anyone else on the roster at WR except Shepard.
guy is a YAC machine, and has been durable throughout his career. Now we have him, Shepherd, and presumably a taller receiver will be taken in the draft, possibly two more with all of the picks we have.
the worst WR core and they just added a solid veteran to a fair deal. Why are so many overreacting to this. They need help there they weren't going into the season with Bennie Fowler and Corey Coleman as their #2 and #3 WR's.
Field Yates
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13s13 seconds ago
I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
I agree with that statement.
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Tate is still very good/productive - I just feel like he and Shepard are a bit redundant.
Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB
Which means they might not resign Shepard next year because hes gonna get a huge deal from someone
Very possible - and I'd be fine with that if we decide to have Tate man the slot the next 2-3-4 years (depending on where our out is in this deal/if we'll even need to use it) and then go bigger on the outside.
I'd like to get some bigger, more physical guys here.
I also wouldn't mind DK Metcalf @ 17.
Field Yates
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13s13 seconds ago
I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
seems like nearly EVERY person that covers the league feels the same.
Are we trying to sign quality players?
Each move we make just seems contradictory of the previous one
Don't worry... Tua will love him.
Its a bad move. This guy isn't worth these numbers.
He's an OK #3 but Id rather go with a young guy and cheap option as a #3.
WTF are you talking about. He just finished a 5 year 31 million dollar contract. He had 74 receptions last year and over 90 receptions each year for the previous 4 seasons. Your math sucks
We are trying to repeat our dead money title crown! With all the contracts we just shed it's going to be tough. Don't count DG out though. He's no nonsense.
My thought exactly
BTW- I had forgotten the DG quote about Analytics being "nonsense" was in response to a question about signing Jonathon Stewart. Players become washed up, end of story. NFL stands for Not For Long. Everyone knows that. Just because the guy shows a slight flash of speed in some random game the year before does not mean he has "plenty left in the tank" and you sign him to 3-4 year deal. Every player has their LAST great day at some point, the great ones are able to know when that is.
Way too early to analyze the loss of a pick. Depends on who we lose and sign in the future and their salaries.
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Ugh - wow thats bad
Cmon Jim, we needed some talent there. The futures the draft. With 12 picks, we should be able to find a good one
You're on board with signing 30 year old free agents now?
Does that mean that overpaying older, good but limited players is a good idea?
Who's playing on the outside?
(blink)
Golden Tate was making 15 million last year? Don't think so
I'm guessing (read: hoping) that at least 1/3 is for injury only. We need to be able to get out of this in two years and have less than $5 million in dead money.
IDK. I don't like it. Tate does most of his damage in the slot anyway, no? Shep should be in the slot.
Field Yates
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I love Golden Tate as a player and he deserves the money he is getting paid. But the Giants' roster construction plan right now makes zero sense to me.
My thoughts exactly.
Wave those pom-poms, baby!
92 catches, 1003 yards and 5 scores is "shit" ?
More consistent strategies here from our fearless leaders.
Let me see the terms here - but I like the player. Dude is a tough SOB
Yeah Arc...not the ideal complement to Shep but Ill take it. He is a consistent performer and big upgrade to anyone else on the roster at WR except Shepard.
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I saw an end zone celebration in the highlights. Me first player.
(blink)
I'm guessing it was sarcasm grounded in people's whining about Beckham. I think?
Cuts him.
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We can afford almost anyone we want. The path is still through the draft
Does that mean that overpaying older, good but limited players is a good idea?
It means, BFD..We still have the draft to improve the receiving moving forward
That's inaccurate. He was good from 14-17. 4 straight seasons of 90 catches and over a thousand yards.
First 4 games of the year - 7 catches per game, 97 yards per game.
Last 11 games of the year - 4 catches per game, 37 yards per game.
Now maybe part of that was going to a new system in Philly mid-year, but that's very concerning.