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Golden Tate to NYG

JoeyBigBlue : 3/14/2019 4:40 pm
According to Shefter
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He’s a gamer..  
Sean : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
Curious as to the plan of attack here though.

It does seem like Gettleman is bringing in gamer/culture players which we do need.
Does he count in the comp formula  
superspynyg : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
For next season?
RE: We have enough people that can play the slot  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14337444 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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Sherpard, Engram, and now Golden.

Who's playing on the outside?


Corey Coleman. Cody Lattimer. Corey Feldman.
ryan  
KWALL2 : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
Need the Coleman reference? Really.

Should I dig up some of your commentary from the past and then dismiss what you say because you were wrong about a player. Get your head our of your ass.
Is there any rhyme or reason with them  
micky : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
Or are they just plugging any player they can afford even if not a fit just to fill space for time being.
I really wish I knew what we were doing  
Anakim : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
This is some fucked up mixture of rebuilding and competing. It's like we're competing to get the 10th pick in the Draft, or something.
Oh good Pan-handler will "take it"  
NoGainDayne : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
I was worried for a second that he wasn't going to like this move.
Let's move Shep to the outside  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
he'll really thrive there!
Not sure what people expect  
pjcas18 : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
they need a WR, and they get one, for short term, and fair $$.

It seems like a lot  
Beer Man : 3/14/2019 4:54 pm : link
for a guy already 30 and showing some signs of decline.
probably paves the way to a bigger WR  
Pep22 : 3/14/2019 4:55 pm : link
in the mid rounds i.e. David Sils
saying he was "shit" is very silly  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:55 pm : link
However, he pretty much duplicates Shep, only for much more money. A 31 year old receiver that averages about 10 yards per catch on a team that already has an established slot receiver and completely lacks a downfield threat....yeah, that's an odd signing.
RE: RE: RE: Hate it  
Chris in Philly : 3/14/2019 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14337455 Greg from LI said:
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In comment 14337445 Chris in Philly said:


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In comment 14337440 mikeinbloomfield said:


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I saw an end zone celebration in the highlights. Me first player.



(blink)



I'm guessing it was sarcasm grounded in people's whining about Beckham. I think?


Oh, phew. You never know around here!
unbelievable  
SHO'NUFF : 3/14/2019 4:55 pm : link
this shit can't get any worse. Tate is garbage.
Lol this is a pretty funny  
mattyblue : 3/14/2019 4:55 pm : link
signing.
Don't see how this makes sense without  
Bill in UT : 3/14/2019 4:56 pm : link
getting rid of Shep. Or Engram???
RE: Oh good Pan-handler will  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/14/2019 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14337470 NoGainDayne said:
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I was worried for a second that he wasn't going to like this move.


LOL
Slight overpay for a guy who has seen better days  
The_Boss : 3/14/2019 4:56 pm : link
Weird signing but I guess it’s part of the “plan” to confuse everyone.
We're going with the revolutionary  
madeinstars : 3/14/2019 4:56 pm : link
4 slot receiver formation
.  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
We're not finished @ WR - if we don't draft or sign any big bodies to play outside, I'll be very surprised.

But - I know we need to go one move, by knee-jerk move here and go nuts over each one as if this is the final piece for the offseason.
More slots than the MGM Grand, baby!  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
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Don't love age/$ but he still forced more missed tackles than any WR  
Eric on Li : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
last year and he is a gamer. I'm guessing it's really a 2 year deal all things considered, and as others have said he is instantly our best WR. He was the best WR on Detroit for the past few years and he was productive. Pretty sure he's also a good blocker.

A little bit of an awkward fit but as others have said this could mean they are willing to trade Shepard. Or play him/Engram outside more. Or just plan to have a bunch of interchangeable pieces.
RE: RE: The guy  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
In comment 14337458 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:


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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.



That's inaccurate. He was good from 14-17. 4 straight seasons of 90 catches and over a thousand yards.


My fault... Didn't crack 1000 in 2015... But he's been solid since 2014. Last year he got traded mid-season and the Eagles didn't know how to use him. I firmly believe PS can get the most out of him.
don't love this  
GMEN27 : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
but tate isn't a bad player, our best WR on the roster for sure.
KWALL  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
you said Golden Tate is a declining player. There is actually zero evidence of that statement. He had one of his best seasons in 2017.
Good move...  
Strip-Sack : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
who really gives a rats ass about the money.....JFC, it's not like they're giving him AB money...always liked him as a WR and he's definitely a positive move for the team.
Solid, certainly not spectacular receiver. I want to see the contract  
Ira : 3/14/2019 4:57 pm : link
details.
This pickup doesn’t make any sense??  
prdave73 : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
I really just don’t get what this Franchise is doing anymore?? Golden Tate is a good WR, but not for that type of money and if they are rebuilding?! Golden Tate is no spring chicken, he is nearing the end of his career?! It just doesn’t make sense. Why invest in this player? I don’t like this signing imo.
We don't "need" WRs  
KWALL2 : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
We need defensive players. We just dropped a big chunk that should be going to some young talent on defense. Not a limited 30+ year WR.
This is comical  
Justlurking : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
DG is a fucking train wreck. What is the plan?????
RE: .  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14337491 arcarsenal said:
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We're not finished @ WR - if we don't draft or sign any big bodies to play outside, I'll be very surprised.

But - I know we need to go one move, by knee-jerk move here and go nuts over each one as if this is the final piece for the offseason.


There simply doesn't seem to be much in the way of coherence or reason to these moves. It's not just BBI loose cannons saying that, it's most of the football world saying it.
RE: saying he was  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14337477 Greg from LI said:
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However, he pretty much duplicates Shep, only for much more money. A 31 year old receiver that averages about 10 yards per catch on a team that already has an established slot receiver and completely lacks a downfield threat....yeah, that's an odd signing.

They might add that downfield threat in the draft. I think the Giants are going WR with either the 17th overall pick or their 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Remember, Philly let him walk  
Jim in Forest Hills : 3/14/2019 4:58 pm : link
those aren't huge numbers. He sucked there. This signing pisses me off.
Tate is a better player  
ryanmkeane : 3/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
than Shepard. They aren't the same player.
Signing is fine...  
Really : 3/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
But where are we going? Is this a sign we’re going QB at 6?

RE: The guy  
speedywheels : 3/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14337410 TommyWiseau said:
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.


Who the hell taught you math? He had 74 receptions last year and a salary of $7 million.

As to his stats:

2018 - 74/795
2017 - 92/1,003

I'd hardly call those (especially 2017) "shit"
JFC!  
Big Blue '56 : 3/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
It’s one signing..
We don't need receivers, KWALL? Is that so?  
Greg from LI : 3/14/2019 4:59 pm : link
I agree with you that the signing is a curious move, but they absolutely do need receivers. Shep is a #3 and the rest of the WRs on the roster are nonentities.
RE: Biggest concern with Tate  
eric2425ny : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14337460 kash94 said:
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is that he is 30 and he really tailed off end of last year.

First 4 games of the year - 7 catches per game, 97 yards per game.
Last 11 games of the year - 4 catches per game, 37 yards per game.

Now maybe part of that was going to a new system in Philly mid-year, but that's very concerning.


It’s going to Philly and a new system. The Lions moved him due to salary cap issues, not because of his talent . Their passing game was not the same when he left.
This has been one of the most confusing offseasons I've ever seen  
Anakim : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
from any team. I really have no clue what we're doing. I can't even fathom. What the hell is the plan exactly?
Age and $ are one thing  
Strahan91 : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
but it seems like a lot of people here know nothing about Golden Tate. He’s a very good player who was badly misused in Philly and never quite integrated into the offense. He was on pace for another big year with Detroit before the deal.
The confusion isn't because Tate sucks  
Mike from Ohio : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
The confusion is because our two best receivers both play the slot. Shepard has shown he is not effective on the outside, and signing a 30 year old slot receiver to play a new position seems like an odd choice.

It's not a bad move so much as it is a confusing move.
RE: RE: Oh good Pan-handler will  
Pan-handler : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14337483 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 14337470 NoGainDayne said:


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I was worried for a second that he wasn't going to like this move.



LOL


Somebody's got to counter balance the negativity. This is Saquons team now with a revamped OL and a system that relies on PA. DG doesnt ascribe to the basketball on grass analogy of Marc Ross.

Tate isnt OBJ but he is a reliable performer and isnt some scrap heap guy (like a bunch of the guys we trotted out in the secondary last year).
Wow Tate and Beckham will be quite the dual threat  
Blue Dream : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
Oh wait.....
RE: Tate is a better player  
Anakim : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
In comment 14337510 ryanmkeane said:
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than Shepard. They aren't the same player.


They're both slot guys, though
Look  
mdthedream : 3/14/2019 5:00 pm : link
we don't know what the draft will bring. If the Giants draft say Metcalf at 17 it makes more sense. We really are short another WR.Tate is a good get but give it time to short out.
He’s  
bigfrank612 : 3/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
Getting paid less than funchess and Williams. Let that sink in. Who cares about the money! Less than $10mil a season. Ppl have to catch the ball.
RE: I really wish I knew what we were doing  
mphbullet36 : 3/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14337469 Anakim said:
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This is some fucked up mixture of rebuilding and competing. It's like we're competing to get the 10th pick in the Draft, or something.


im speechless. This team has no direction. They want to compete while rebuilding. SO throw $$$ at an aging declining slot WR when we already have one whos younger in Shep??

All to give it one more shot with Eli? This is insanity..3 straight years of this sh*t.
RE: You guys are too focused on the money.  
NYG007 : 3/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14337429 Big Blue '56 said:
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We can afford almost anyone we want. The path is still through the draft


+1.. Backup lineman get 9m a season lately, get over it. This is a good signing for a few years, has zero impact on Shepard (who is an excellent blocker, but his hands are not great, neither is his separation).
RE: We don't  
Jay on the Island : 3/14/2019 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14337502 KWALL2 said:
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We need defensive players. We just dropped a big chunk that should be going to some young talent on defense. Not a limited 30+ year WR.

We don't need WR's? Shepard has proven that he isn't a #1 receive. Before this signing Corey Coleman and Jawill Davis were the #2 and #3 WR's. We had the worst WR core in football. How is that not a need?
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