This move makes sense. Tate is still a good player and still has a few good years left in him. It is just odd that the first FA signing is a 30 year old WR.
I expect they will target an outside threat in rounds two or three in the draft.
is a good WR. He was the best WR on the market and didn't go for crazy money. 4 years 37.5 is very good for a WR like him. You see Terrell Williams go for more, Humphries go for more, Crowder go for more, etc and he is better than them all. Why would anyone be upset with this?
People like to bitch and moan and complain
What's having Golden Tate get you to 7 wins if you're lucky?
Blindly be in line with every move this team makes, let us know when you want to say we w're right.
There's a middle ground between a blind following and not being an idiot.
We need bodies. Tate and Shep can play a little outside, and given our depth chart at receiver (or Hockenson) is going to get the call in round 1 or 2.
We are creating a smart, run heavy team. I like players like this. This will be a mentally tough team.
is this really true if it is it makes me a little happier. Berklry is a big play waiting to happen at running back and what you need big plays at running Packers receivers that enthusiastically block
RE: RE: Nobody can lose a defender like Beckham can Â
We need bodies. Tate and Shep can play a little outside, and given our depth chart at receiver (or Hockenson) is going to get the call in round 1 or 2.
is a good WR. He was the best WR on the market and didn't go for crazy money. 4 years 37.5 is very good for a WR like him. You see Terrell Williams go for more, Humphries go for more, Crowder go for more, etc and he is better than them all. Why would anyone be upset with this?
People like to bitch and moan and complain
What's having Golden Tate get you to 7 wins if you're lucky?
Blindly be in line with every move this team makes, let us know when you want to say we w're right.
you're an idiot. Who knows how many games we win. We still have more Free Agents, the Draft, possible trades, etc. Who knows about injuries, lucky or unlucky games, etc. How could any predict our record when we don't even have our full roster yet?
The dude is a player and he won’t bring unnecessary drama to our team either. He caught 90 or more four straight years from 2014-2017 and his YAC exceeds Odell. He is not as effective in the red zone and thus has less tds than Odell, but hopefully EE will rise up to be our big red zone beast.
Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Antonio Brown is 30, Julio Jones is 30, AJ Green is 30... etc. Who fucking cares.... And Tate is a better WR and FOOTBALL player than Shepard. Shepard isn’t reliable. Tate is!!! This dude makes plays!
Shepard isn’t reliable? JFC.
Guess we are at the point now where people will just post absolute bullshit nonsense to prove their dumbass fucking take.
Did you watch Shepard last year or did you check out on the season early? Dude dropped a number of balls on key downs and the end zone!
in comparison to the rest of the WR market Tates contract seems solid Â
he and Humphries are pretty similar players and I'd rather have the guy 5 years younger, but Tate has been more productive. Tyrell Williams is also a nice upside play, but again Tate has been the more productive, consistent, player. Whoever the QB is, it's a pretty safe bet Golden Tate is on the receiving end of 150 balls the next couple years.
Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
The Giants look to have done their homework on this.
Where is an evidence of that?
or they did the right homework especially for a bottom of the league team?
Our talent level is at the bottom of the league with massive holes at critical spots. The move would have been to do the homework on younger NFL players and not overpay for this type of player/age/position.
$23 million guaranteed for a limited slot WR? I can't buy into that.
People are obsessed with "guaranteed" money... but the only thing that matters is the signing bonus. If most of the money is guaranteeing his first two years he wasn't going to be cut during his first two years anyways.
Tate isn't a number 1 WR.. he plays a position we already have (Slot WR) he is making too much money and isn't anything special.. where the fuck is the rebuilding.. save money.. this draft has better WR than Tate we can pick them up in the second/third round..
Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
I'm pretty sure that's not what they're trying to do... nor do I think this is the final group of WR's we're going into the season with.
Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
I'm pretty sure that's not what they're trying to do... nor do I think this is the final group of WR's we're going into the season with.
We are creating a smart, run heavy team. I like players like this. This will be a mentally tough team.
Don’t think Shawn lee wants to see him again.
is this really true if it is it makes me a little happier. Berklry is a big play waiting to happen at running back and what you need big plays at running Packers receivers that enthusiastically block
Disagree there are better WR to be had in the third round of this draft. Dink and dunk doesn't help your running game. Vertical passes do! If this works DG is a genius. I wouldn't bet on it.
The dude is a player and he won’t bring unnecessary drama to our team either. He caught 90 or more four straight years from 2014-2017 and his YAC exceeds Odell. He is not as effective in the red zone and thus has less tds than Odell, but hopefully EE will rise up to be our big red zone beast.
Tate
Shepherd
EE
Coleman
Fowler
I’m down with these guys.
He fucked his QB’s wife and broke Percy Harvin’s face before the super bowl. But yeah, definitely much better character guy than odell
Disagree there are better WR to be had in the third round of this draft. Dink and dunk doesn't help your running game. Vertical passes do! If this works DG is a genius. I wouldn't bet on it.
What about really good blocking WRs? Especially with a RB that busts open where one block can spring him. OBJ was not a blocker.
There are an awful lot of whining shit heads on this board Â
Its 3/14/19. Give it some time before you go full meltdown. We have 12 picks (4 premium) and over 4 months until training camp.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Its 3/14/19. Give it some time before you go full meltdown. We have 12 picks (4 premium) and over 4 months until training camp.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Excited to see what else we do.
Real workmanlike professional football players? Do you guys hear yourself talk sometimes?
if we didn't sign him, you guys would just bitch that Gettleman did nothing. Tate is a good player on a market value deal at WR, with the hopes he will be really productive for 2-3 years for us. What the hell is the problem with that?
Its 3/14/19. Give it some time before you go full meltdown. We have 12 picks (4 premium) and over 4 months until training camp.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Excited to see what else we do.
Real workmanlike professional football players? Do you guys hear yourself talk sometimes?
people freaking out. we have to be able to move the chains a little this season. he is a good player and we could prob use him for 2-3 years. he is also a vet guy who can lead some of the young guys we are going to have in that room...we will most likely draft an outside WR this year. i dont get why everyone is up in arms. we had to field a team this year....
Tate is now our best WR. We had barely one WR in Sheppard who is very average and now we got someone much better. Is he OBJ no, but he by far better than what we had and for the best WR on the market to come in cheaper than Williams, Crowder, Funchess, Humphries, etc is great.
Disagree there are better WR to be had in the third round of this draft. Dink and dunk doesn't help your running game. Vertical passes do! If this works DG is a genius. I wouldn't bet on it.
Actually this is a very deep draft of quality receivers.
If you are going by age 30 year Tate is young that 31 one year Antonio Brown who just got like guaranteed forever for like 20 mil a year. I mean if you are just going by age.
was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
Bingo
Bingo? That post was all kinds of wrong. Unless you think he was making 15 mil last year? Or that you think a 90+ catch 1000+ yard is shit? The only bingo that is, is when an old man yells bingo and then he realizes he didn't actually have it and every old people growns at him
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
Bingo
Dont get this at all. If you're of the opinion he's about to completely decline due to age fine. But how is a WR who had 74+ reception (1 yr removed from 4 straight 90s) and 795+ yds (w/ 3 seasons 1000+) in the last 5 years had "2 shit seasons?" And been as durable as you can be. How is that shit?
I expect they will target an outside threat in rounds two or three in the draft.
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is a good WR. He was the best WR on the market and didn't go for crazy money. 4 years 37.5 is very good for a WR like him. You see Terrell Williams go for more, Humphries go for more, Crowder go for more, etc and he is better than them all. Why would anyone be upset with this?
People like to bitch and moan and complain
What's having Golden Tate get you to 7 wins if you're lucky?
Blindly be in line with every move this team makes, let us know when you want to say we w're right.
There's a middle ground between a blind following and not being an idiot.
No one was going to be a "Beckham replacement" in this FA group. It doesn't exist.
Dude.. an OBJ talent is generational... No replacements suggested.. We do need good football players & leaders. I think Tate is that.
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Tate is serviceable, but he's not a Beckham replacement.
Dude.. an OBJ talent is generational... No replacements suggested.. We do need good football players & leaders. I think Tate is that.
He allegedly fucked his QB's ex wife.
"a" receiver (or Hockenson)
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is a good WR. He was the best WR on the market and didn't go for crazy money. 4 years 37.5 is very good for a WR like him. You see Terrell Williams go for more, Humphries go for more, Crowder go for more, etc and he is better than them all. Why would anyone be upset with this?
People like to bitch and moan and complain
What's having Golden Tate get you to 7 wins if you're lucky?
Blindly be in line with every move this team makes, let us know when you want to say we w're right.
you're an idiot. Who knows how many games we win. We still have more Free Agents, the Draft, possible trades, etc. Who knows about injuries, lucky or unlucky games, etc. How could any predict our record when we don't even have our full roster yet?
Tate
Shepherd
EE
Coleman
Fowler
I’m down with these guys.
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is Golden Tate?
Mike Francesa.
Well, that's not something that increases my confidence on this signing.
Mara forced this to appease Fracesca
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Antonio Brown is 30, Julio Jones is 30, AJ Green is 30... etc. Who fucking cares.... And Tate is a better WR and FOOTBALL player than Shepard. Shepard isn’t reliable. Tate is!!! This dude makes plays!
Shepard isn’t reliable? JFC.
Guess we are at the point now where people will just post absolute bullshit nonsense to prove their dumbass fucking take.
Did you watch Shepard last year or did you check out on the season early? Dude dropped a number of balls on key downs and the end zone!
We really need his 100+ ranked 6 yards per target average. Thats what a rebuilding team need because damn it "dude is a player"
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
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The Giants look to have done their homework on this.
Where is an evidence of that?
or they did the right homework especially for a bottom of the league team?
Our talent level is at the bottom of the league with massive holes at critical spots. The move would have been to do the homework on younger NFL players and not overpay for this type of player/age/position.
$23 million guaranteed for a limited slot WR? I can't buy into that.
People are obsessed with "guaranteed" money... but the only thing that matters is the signing bonus. If most of the money is guaranteeing his first two years he wasn't going to be cut during his first two years anyways.
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Watch Tate play. You just can't boil him down to a few numbers, and then make a conclusion.
Guy takes hits in the middle and delivers blows back. This is a real football player.
But, again, that requires actually watching him play. And that doesn't appear to be a strength of BBI...
Because you are an Eli apologist that doesn’t want a rebuild either. This is just another terrible move in a sea of them.
Please, please, no more fun. This front office’s idea of fun is not good.
I'm called and accused of a lot of things around here. And some might be true.
But calling me an Eli apologist may be one of the all-time classics.
We really need his 100+ ranked 6 yards per target average. Thats what a rebuilding team need because damn it "dude is a player"
Ha yes
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Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
I'm pretty sure that's not what they're trying to do... nor do I think this is the final group of WR's we're going into the season with.
But, keep the hot takes comin!
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Watch Tate play. You just can't boil him down to a few numbers, and then make a conclusion.
Guy takes hits in the middle and delivers blows back. This is a real football player.
But, again, that requires actually watching him play. And that doesn't appear to be a strength of BBI...
Because you are an Eli apologist that doesn’t want a rebuild either. This is just another terrible move in a sea of them.
Please, please, no more fun. This front office’s idea of fun is not good.
I'm called and accused of a lot of things around here. And some might be true.
But calling me an Eli apologist may be one of the all-time classics.
I had to re-read that post 10 times over before I responded to it!
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Really like Hockenson - I've seen a few people mention him. I want to build a tough football team from the inside out. More physicality, more willing blockers. Smash the shit out of lighter front 7's and let Barkley fly.
Giant's are trying to revolutionize offense by keeping everything shorter than 15 yards and in between the hash marks.
I'm pretty sure that's not what they're trying to do... nor do I think this is the final group of WR's we're going into the season with.
But, keep the hot takes comin!
Maybe they'll give Hogan 4 years too!
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We are creating a smart, run heavy team. I like players like this. This will be a mentally tough team.
Don’t think Shawn lee wants to see him again.
is this really true if it is it makes me a little happier. Berklry is a big play waiting to happen at running back and what you need big plays at running Packers receivers that enthusiastically block
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I'm called and accused of a lot of things around here. And some might be true.
But calling me an Eli apologist may be one of the all-time classics.
Even I laughed. But believe it or not - someone called me an Eli hater earlier in the year.
Tate
Shepherd
EE
Coleman
Fowler
I’m down with these guys.
He fucked his QB’s wife and broke Percy Harvin’s face before the super bowl. But yeah, definitely much better character guy than odell
Shepard isn’t reliable? JFC.
Guess we are at the point now where people will just post absolute bullshit nonsense to prove their dumbass fucking take.
Shep had 1 or 2 balls go off his finger tips last year.
What about really good blocking WRs? Especially with a RB that busts open where one block can spring him. OBJ was not a blocker.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Excited to see what else we do.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Excited to see what else we do.
Real workmanlike professional football players? Do you guys hear yourself talk sometimes?
These past 2 offseasons will go down in infamy.
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Its 3/14/19. Give it some time before you go full meltdown. We have 12 picks (4 premium) and over 4 months until training camp.
Happy we are bringing in real workmanlike professional football players. Shep, SB, EE and now Golden Tate with a real offensive line will be very serviceable.
Excited to see what else we do.
Real workmanlike professional football players? Do you guys hear yourself talk sometimes?
How'd they get a hold of Gettleman's notes?
Actually this is a very deep draft of quality receivers.
Bingo
These past 2 offseasons will go down in infamy.
These hysterical reactions sure will!
A lot of these threads will be fun to look back at a few years from now.
These past 2 offseasons will go down in infamy.
If you are going by age 30 year Tate is young that 31 one year Antonio Brown who just got like guaranteed forever for like 20 mil a year. I mean if you are just going by age.
Yes, thats exactly why we traded Beckham - so that we could pay Golden Tate. That was the plan all along.
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
Bingo
Bingo? That post was all kinds of wrong. Unless you think he was making 15 mil last year? Or that you think a 90+ catch 1000+ yard is shit? The only bingo that is, is when an old man yells bingo and then he realizes he didn't actually have it and every old people growns at him
Lol, funny if it wasn't true.
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was paid 200k per reception last year, he has been shit the last two seasons.
Bingo
Dont get this at all. If you're of the opinion he's about to completely decline due to age fine. But how is a WR who had 74+ reception (1 yr removed from 4 straight 90s) and 795+ yds (w/ 3 seasons 1000+) in the last 5 years had "2 shit seasons?" And been as durable as you can be. How is that shit?