depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
what the fucking are you guys talking about. Tate made 6M last year. He caught 74 balls. And was on pace for 90+ before he was dealt to the Eagles.
This place is a shitshow.
It is like idiot double down on more idiocy. Just throwing things out there. Golden Tate is 87 years old and didn't even play the last 100 years yet we are paying him 1 billion dollars. Next person... so right he was 90 years old and 2 billion is to much!
This seems to be a very good year to draft 2 solid WRs Â
depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
we traded away a HOF caliber player for 50 cents on the dollar to overpay an aging slot receiver?
Nah, but see, Tate is a real player. A hard-nosed no nonsense bring your lunch pail to work professional and team mate.
Never mind he got thrown out of Seattle for fucking his QB's wife and breaking his teammates face.
I thought Harvin punched out Tate?
Facts don't matter anymore here.
I actually laughed at this post... because it's sadly true. It's like people just make shit up and run with it until someone lets them know it's completely wrong.
depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I've seen plenty of him. He's not a strict slot guy. He's not going to be much of a deep threat outside, though. Right now I suppose that would be more Latimer's role, and then we see what we get from the draft. But he and Shep are great blocking WRs, so this is going to help Saquon break some long ones.
depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
Well they aren't trading Golden Tate next year, so what does a 32 or 33 year old get you - since you want to be snide.
This team is going to surprise many pundits this year. They are going to run the ball, stop the run and hit some big plays on play action with solid specials. Defense is going to be hungry, aggressive and I think Betcher is going to love coaching them and the players are going to lay it out for them with growing pains.
I was a little down on Shurmer early in the season. He kept them together, they got better and he is growing and understands NFC East football and the what made the Giants the Giants when they were good. Let's hope for the best and nice to see the GM and HC with a shared vision. Be patient, we are making progress.
This signing continues to show they want tough football players.
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
Well they aren't trading Golden Tate next year, so what does a 32 or 33 year old get you - since you want to be snide.
Who says they won't trade him this year? If they're willing to trade Beckham 6 months after signing him I'd imagine anyone is on the table if circumstances make sense.
If the team is as bad as everyone thinks I'd imagine all veterans will be available at the deadline just like this year. Both Goldens included. That's why I think there's value in spending money on veterans even if the team isn't going anywhere this year. You may be able to turn them into BJ Hill. Or Kevin Zeitler. Or a 3rd/4th/5th rd pick. Which was the point of the first post you snidely responded too.
to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
They have (correctly) chosen to rebuild since the deadline last year. Unless they surprisingly compete this season I don't expect them to turn down draft picks for veterans if the opportunity arrises. If there were younger guys available who actually had more upside than golden tate, you can bet they wouldn't be cheaper.
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
is very good for Shepard and hopefully Coleman. He's a football schoar, a real veteran leader of wr corps.
The best thing it does for Coleman (and Latimer if he comes back) is allows them to focus on downfield routes. Tate and Shepard can work the middle, Barkley too out of the backfield, Engram and Ellison down the seams.
Then let Coleman use his speed to take the top off the D. hopefully find an explosive rookie in the mid rounds too.
This is like joining a ESPN Fantasy Team league draft Â
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
This is all he does. He did the same thing last offseason when the Giants hurt his feelings and didnt draft a QB. He must have been emotionslly scarred because he bitched about it endlessly. Apparently those wounds run deep.
RE: RE: This is like joining a ESPN Fantasy Team league draft Â
to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
Okay, I’ll play. Who?
This was in response to Eric saying if they suck they can trade Tate, but I'll play.
Jamison Crowder, 25 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Adam Humpries, 26 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Both got less money and less guarantees and there is at least a chance one of those players could contribute at what will be considered a bargain when the Giants are ready to compete. Golden Tate won't be here when they are ready to compete.
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
This is all he does. He did the same thing last offseason when the Giants hurt his feelings and didnt draft a QB. He must have been emotionslly scarred because he bitched about it endlessly. Apparently those wounds run deep.
Oh please. I complimented most of last years draft picks and their performance last year. I complimented the Zeitler portion of the trade. Sorry this team is floating around with no discernible plan.
to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
Okay, I’ll play. Who?
This was in response to Eric saying if they suck they can trade Tate, but I'll play.
Jamison Crowder, 25 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Adam Humpries, 26 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Both got less money and less guarantees and there is at least a chance one of those players could contribute at what will be considered a bargain when the Giants are ready to compete. Golden Tate won't be here when they are ready to compete.
Neither are as good as Golden Tate and they both got about the same amount of money. As for the guarantee again that doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is the signing bonus which was 10 million for Humphries... meaning after two years it is a 5 million dollar cap hit to cut. So again until you know signing bonus guarantee means nothing. Crowder same thing who is getting 9.5 million a year!
"great veteran leadership for the position group" is one of the most cliche and overblown things football fans and front offices say. That's the same reason we wasted money on Stewart.
Second,
Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
knocking 1 as a bad move and 1 as a good move is odd since they're extremely similar players and their 1 main difference (age) isn't much of a factor since they are short term deals.
I'd have been happy with either player, not sure which I'd prefer. I like Tate's leadership and I think he's been a more productive player. I like Crowder's special teams ability and that he's got a little more explosiveness.
"great veteran leadership for the position group" is one of the most cliche and overblown things football fans and front offices say. That's the same reason we wasted money on Stewart.
Second,
Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
Well A) You don't think being better is important good to know. I mean if you think Golden Tate is over paid and they aren't as good they wouldn't that make them extremely over paid? B) They signed before we actually were able to trade OBJ soooo were they options?
There is no such thing as long term in the NFL now. Wake up.
Never ceases to amaze me how people constantly assume Â
when in three years, likely when this team has a shot at competing one will be 29 and the other 34. There's more potential upside to having Crowder in the final year of his deal in 2021, hopefully in year three of our new QB than Golden Tate who is probably cut after year two.
Golden Tate is a very good player. Golden Tate also probably should have taken the Patriots offer if the rumors of them wanting him was true. Golden Tate on the Giants is a short term move to try to be a competitive team next year. If Graziano's reports are true they're essentially running it back with the same plan as last year, just without Odell - and that's troubling.
I pay for season tickets, I don't want the Giants to suck. I don't want to watch the Cowboys and Eagles battle for the division while we struggle. Despite what it may seem like I'm not rooting against the Giants. I'm over taking the wait and see approach for a front office who hasn't given any reason to trust them the last two years or an ownership group who hasn't given a reason the last seven years to trust them.
"great veteran leadership for the position group" is one of the most cliche and overblown things football fans and front offices say. That's the same reason we wasted money on Stewart.
Second,
Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
Well A) You don't think being better is important good to know. I mean if you think Golden Tate is over paid and they aren't as good they wouldn't that make them extremely over paid? B) They signed before we actually were able to trade OBJ soooo were they options?
There is no such thing as long term in the NFL now. Wake up.
If you wake up and connect the dots that Odell trade didn't just come out of nowhere. They probably had discussed it for a while and it likely led to them being ok with letting Collins walk with no tag.
Golden Tate isn't over paid for Golden Tate, he's just not a right fit for a rebuilding team - if we even are one.
Nah, but see, Tate is a real player. A hard-nosed no nonsense bring your lunch pail to work professional and team mate.
Never mind he got thrown out of Seattle for fucking his QB's wife and breaking his teammates face.
This place is a shitshow.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
This place is a shitshow.
It is like idiot double down on more idiocy. Just throwing things out there. Golden Tate is 87 years old and didn't even play the last 100 years yet we are paying him 1 billion dollars. Next person... so right he was 90 years old and 2 billion is to much!
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we traded away a HOF caliber player for 50 cents on the dollar to overpay an aging slot receiver?
Nah, but see, Tate is a real player. A hard-nosed no nonsense bring your lunch pail to work professional and team mate.
Never mind he got thrown out of Seattle for fucking his QB's wife and breaking his teammates face.
I thought Harvin punched out Tate?
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we traded away a HOF caliber player for 50 cents on the dollar to overpay an aging slot receiver?
Nah, but see, Tate is a real player. A hard-nosed no nonsense bring your lunch pail to work professional and team mate.
Never mind he got thrown out of Seattle for fucking his QB's wife and breaking his teammates face.
I thought Harvin punched out Tate?
Facts don't matter anymore here.
Would you think a 31 year old wr is the replacement for a guy heading for his second contract.
Really like this signing. Very productive and mentally tough.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
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we traded away a HOF caliber player for 50 cents on the dollar to overpay an aging slot receiver?
Nah, but see, Tate is a real player. A hard-nosed no nonsense bring your lunch pail to work professional and team mate.
Never mind he got thrown out of Seattle for fucking his QB's wife and breaking his teammates face.
I thought Harvin punched out Tate?
Facts don't matter anymore here.
I actually laughed at this post... because it's sadly true. It's like people just make shit up and run with it until someone lets them know it's completely wrong.
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
He will be productive too for at least a couple seasons.
Spot on.
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
Well they aren't trading Golden Tate next year, so what does a 32 or 33 year old get you - since you want to be snide.
For some reason I thought they had tendered him. I guess not. I'd like to see him back.
I was a little down on Shurmer early in the season. He kept them together, they got better and he is growing and understands NFC East football and the what made the Giants the Giants when they were good. Let's hope for the best and nice to see the GM and HC with a shared vision. Be patient, we are making progress.
This signing continues to show they want tough football players.
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depending on how the contract is structured if we own all the guarantees he could be a very tradeable player over the next couple years. Or if he plays well, we could, you know, try to win football games while rebuilding the real way, through the draft.
or we can just not spend the money available under the cap and resign Bennie Fowler.
The Steelers got a 3 and a 5 for a much better player in Antonio Brown. What’s a 33 year old Golden Tate going to fetch?
He's aged quicker than I expected.
He’s 31 when the season starts, you said traceable over the next couple of years. What’s your point?
I suppose it's that 31 and 32 come before 33.
Either way I doubt Gettleman signed him just to trade him.
Well they aren't trading Golden Tate next year, so what does a 32 or 33 year old get you - since you want to be snide.
Who says they won't trade him this year? If they're willing to trade Beckham 6 months after signing him I'd imagine anyone is on the table if circumstances make sense.
If the team is as bad as everyone thinks I'd imagine all veterans will be available at the deadline just like this year. Both Goldens included. That's why I think there's value in spending money on veterans even if the team isn't going anywhere this year. You may be able to turn them into BJ Hill. Or Kevin Zeitler. Or a 3rd/4th/5th rd pick. Which was the point of the first post you snidely responded too.
what does it matter... you aren't invited.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
he won't be getting traded for two years so stop it.
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to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
he won't be getting traded for two years so stop it.
I wasn't the one who said that so...
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
They have (correctly) chosen to rebuild since the deadline last year. Unless they surprisingly compete this season I don't expect them to turn down draft picks for veterans if the opportunity arrises. If there were younger guys available who actually had more upside than golden tate, you can bet they wouldn't be cheaper.
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
Okay, I’ll play. Who?
The best thing it does for Coleman (and Latimer if he comes back) is allows them to focus on downfield routes. Tate and Shepard can work the middle, Barkley too out of the backfield, Engram and Ellison down the seams.
Then let Coleman use his speed to take the top off the D. hopefully find an explosive rookie in the mid rounds too.
wait you can do that?
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Kool Aide drinking in East Rutherford
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
This is all he does. He did the same thing last offseason when the Giants hurt his feelings and didnt draft a QB. He must have been emotionslly scarred because he bitched about it endlessly. Apparently those wounds run deep.
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and wanting to start over after a few rounds...
wait you can do that?
Well, you just join the next league 5 minutes later and ignore that first team.
So in connection with the Giants, just start watching again in Sept 2020...
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Shepard isn’t reliable? JFC.
Guess we are at the point now where people will just post absolute bullshit nonsense to prove their dumbass fucking take.
Shep had 1 or 2 balls go off his finger tips last year.
The hardly makes him ‘unreliable’
He caught 66 balls, had 800+ yards and 4 TDs last year.
So, again, it was an asinine, dumbass fucking statement.
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to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
Okay, I’ll play. Who?
This was in response to Eric saying if they suck they can trade Tate, but I'll play.
Jamison Crowder, 25 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Adam Humpries, 26 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Both got less money and less guarantees and there is at least a chance one of those players could contribute at what will be considered a bargain when the Giants are ready to compete. Golden Tate won't be here when they are ready to compete.
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Kool Aide drinking in East Rutherford
Do posts like this make you feel like you're blowing off steam or something? I don't really get it. It's the same sarcastic, everything sucks post in 500 different ways.
We get it - you don't like what they're doing.
If you have nothing else to add, maybe go pollute other threads instead.
This is all he does. He did the same thing last offseason when the Giants hurt his feelings and didnt draft a QB. He must have been emotionslly scarred because he bitched about it endlessly. Apparently those wounds run deep.
Oh please. I complimented most of last years draft picks and their performance last year. I complimented the Zeitler portion of the trade. Sorry this team is floating around with no discernible plan.
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to $23 million guaranteed makes absolute zero sense if you would trade him mid way through the year.
So you're going to choose to further rebuild during the year? Why not just sign a young cheaper guy who at least as upside?
Okay, I’ll play. Who?
This was in response to Eric saying if they suck they can trade Tate, but I'll play.
Jamison Crowder, 25 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Adam Humpries, 26 more upside long term than Golden Tate
Both got less money and less guarantees and there is at least a chance one of those players could contribute at what will be considered a bargain when the Giants are ready to compete. Golden Tate won't be here when they are ready to compete.
Neither are as good as Golden Tate and they both got about the same amount of money. As for the guarantee again that doesn't matter at all. The only thing that matters is the signing bonus which was 10 million for Humphries... meaning after two years it is a 5 million dollar cap hit to cut. So again until you know signing bonus guarantee means nothing. Crowder same thing who is getting 9.5 million a year!
Second,
Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
I'd have been happy with either player, not sure which I'd prefer. I like Tate's leadership and I think he's been a more productive player. I like Crowder's special teams ability and that he's got a little more explosiveness.
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Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
Well A) You don't think being better is important good to know. I mean if you think Golden Tate is over paid and they aren't as good they wouldn't that make them extremely over paid? B) They signed before we actually were able to trade OBJ soooo were they options?
There is no such thing as long term in the NFL now. Wake up.
1. Because a player you like is available to be signed, they will choose your team
2. Because a player you like chose to sign with another team, doesnt mean your team didnt inquire about them as well
Golden Tate is a very good player. Golden Tate also probably should have taken the Patriots offer if the rumors of them wanting him was true. Golden Tate on the Giants is a short term move to try to be a competitive team next year. If Graziano's reports are true they're essentially running it back with the same plan as last year, just without Odell - and that's troubling.
I pay for season tickets, I don't want the Giants to suck. I don't want to watch the Cowboys and Eagles battle for the division while we struggle. Despite what it may seem like I'm not rooting against the Giants. I'm over taking the wait and see approach for a front office who hasn't given any reason to trust them the last two years or an ownership group who hasn't given a reason the last seven years to trust them.
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"great veteran leadership for the position group" is one of the most cliche and overblown things football fans and front offices say. That's the same reason we wasted money on Stewart.
Second,
Humpries and Crowder being better than Tate now is irrelevant because the Giants aren't going to be good this year. All three players will likely be cuttable after 2 years, but there's a chance Humphries and Crowder are still good in 2 years and can be a bargain WR option when they are ready to compete.
Signing Golden Tate was a short term move, this team should be making long term moves.
Well A) You don't think being better is important good to know. I mean if you think Golden Tate is over paid and they aren't as good they wouldn't that make them extremely over paid? B) They signed before we actually were able to trade OBJ soooo were they options?
There is no such thing as long term in the NFL now. Wake up.
If you wake up and connect the dots that Odell trade didn't just come out of nowhere. They probably had discussed it for a while and it likely led to them being ok with letting Collins walk with no tag.
Golden Tate isn't over paid for Golden Tate, he's just not a right fit for a rebuilding team - if we even are one.
I understand this is the kind of guy they want on the team, but he is way on the downside of his career.
We need a RT and C, and soon.