They flipped the other pick in the Vernon deal. But the third round pick may as well be in the 4th, since its the last pick in that round, but whatever.
And Golden Tate would be there regardless of trading Beckham, but of course we wouldn't have needed him.
In the Zeitler/Vernon trade Cleve got our 4th and we got their 5th. In the OBJ trade we swapped those two picks, so we got our 4th back and they took the 5th back.
I did not want to see OBJ go - he is a tremendous player. However, if it was determined they could not live with him they got a 1, 3 and a 1st rd player. Add that to Vernon for Zeitler
Cle got the best player but the Giants did get capital
What I now don't want to see if a trade moving up using 2-3 of those high picks to get Haskins
Get some defense and another OL on 1st 3 picks and move on
Let’s not forget the real reason OBJ was traded. Â
Eagles will get a 4th rd pick.. also add the dead money from the OBJ trade.. Also remember to add that Tate who already looked super slow in the second half of the year will be here for at least 2-4 more years.. Jesus christ people here are such homers.. you can't possibly be convinced that this was a good signing.
Eagles will get a 4th rd pick.. also add the dead money from the OBJ trade.. Also remember to add that Tate who already looked super slow in the second half of the year will be here for at least 2-4 more years.. Jesus christ people here are such homers.. you can't possibly be convinced that this was a good signing.
Well you can counter that with now having 120M in cap space next year so there's that
but I do think it's fair to consider the FA's signed because of the freed up cap, although eventually you should consider the net effect on the cap once that's known.
Trade:
Beckham
Get:
2019 1st
2019 3rd
2019 5th to 4th
Peppers
$5MM cap space in 2019
Trade:
Vernon
2019 4th to 5th
Get:
Zeitler
$1.5MM cap space in 2019
Combined Moves:
Trade:
OBJ & Vernon
Get:
1st, 3rd, Zeitler, Peppers $6.5MM discount in 2019 dollars towards replacements Tate & Golden.
Analysis:
Losing 1 unreplaceable player (OBJ) 1 talented but regularly injured and expensive EDGE defender and however many dollars in cap space
Gaining 2 highly coveted players at a position of high need (RG Zeitler and S Peppers), a talented end of career WR (Tate), a talented but coming off injury EDGE defender (Golden), and extra first and third round picks.
Seems to me like these trades are working out to wins overall for the Giants, as much as I hate seeing OBJ leave.
Wonder how much more there is in store for this team in FA.
I really thought from the rumors yesterday we were going to hear something crazy like Eli cut and a trade for Stafford/Wilson/Mariota/Carr or something like that. Then the reports about the time spent with Murray yesterday and I thought we might here about a trade up with AZ to #1.
We had this cap space and needed another wide receiver anyway Â
you crazy!
They flipped the other pick in the Vernon deal. But the third round pick may as well be in the 4th, since its the last pick in that round, but whatever.
And Golden Tate would be there regardless of trading Beckham, but of course we wouldn't have needed him.
In the Zeitler/Vernon trade Cleve got our 4th and we got their 5th. In the OBJ trade we swapped those two picks, so we got our 4th back and they took the 5th back.
Giving Vernon
and additional 5M cap space money
I did not want to see OBJ go - he is a tremendous player. However, if it was determined they could not live with him they got a 1, 3 and a 1st rd player. Add that to Vernon for Zeitler
Cle got the best player but the Giants did get capital
What I now don't want to see if a trade moving up using 2-3 of those high picks to get Haskins
Get some defense and another OL on 1st 3 picks and move on
Well you can counter that with now having 120M in cap space next year so there's that
So, it is really Tate, Peppers and a first rounder for Odell.
Plus, Giants will have 10+ million more in 2020-2 in cap space
So, it is really Tate, Peppers and a first rounder for Odell.
Plus, Giants will have 10+ million more in 2020-2 in cap space
Tate cancelled out the 5th rounder we were going to get for Brown
Trade:
Beckham
Get:
2019 1st
2019 3rd
2019 5th to 4th
Peppers
$5MM cap space in 2019
Trade:
Vernon
2019 4th to 5th
Get:
Zeitler
$1.5MM cap space in 2019
Combined Moves:
Trade:
OBJ & Vernon
Get:
1st, 3rd, Zeitler, Peppers $6.5MM discount in 2019 dollars towards replacements Tate & Golden.
Analysis:
Losing 1 unreplaceable player (OBJ) 1 talented but regularly injured and expensive EDGE defender and however many dollars in cap space
Gaining 2 highly coveted players at a position of high need (RG Zeitler and S Peppers), a talented end of career WR (Tate), a talented but coming off injury EDGE defender (Golden), and extra first and third round picks.
Seems to me like these trades are working out to wins overall for the Giants, as much as I hate seeing OBJ leave.
Wonder how much more there is in store for this team in FA.
I really thought from the rumors yesterday we were going to hear something crazy like Eli cut and a trade for Stafford/Wilson/Mariota/Carr or something like that. Then the reports about the time spent with Murray yesterday and I thought we might here about a trade up with AZ to #1.