People in the media are saying we have no plan. I think the plan is getting pretty easy to see. We drafted a generational talent at Running back. A physical offensive line is being built. We just added a receiver that can block. We know Shepherd can block. We need a dual threat at tight end. One that can stretch the field but block like a motherfuker. You can win with a mediocre QB with a team like that. Got the me first knucklehead guys out add guys with character. That is a recipe to compete. It might be boring but it still works, there are recent examples. So the people in the media complaining that he doesn't have a plan being intellectually dishonest. It's Dave Gettleman for Christ's sake, what else did we expect him to do? It's really very predictable.
"but we wasted a bunch of cap space in a year we all think we're going to suck anyways?! WAAAAHHHHH" - Also BBI
They brought in on piece with the trade. A young safety. They should use this draft to bring in blue chip talent at LB and DL, lay the foundation for the new D. Gotta pick the right guys and turn Beckham into four players.
Agree though, until this team fields a D again it will suck.
Is free agency over yet?
Is the draft over yet?
Is the offseason over yet?
Also I assume its very easy to find a blocking TE that can "stretch the field but block like a motherfuker".. Just invent a time machine and get Gronk 2010..
This signing is just a worse J Stewart signing.. bring in the old people..
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. We’re going to run it back this year with Eli. I can’t wait for next offseason when we do the same fukadome thing. Well, Eli can still win, right? We just need to put some pieces around him. Or the excuse: no OBJ - he didn’t have the WRs. What bull.
Skip to now and the Giants have 2 1st rounders and 12 total picks in the upcoming draft. They have the makings of a solid core on the OL. And they'll likely pick up more picks during this season by trading guys like Jackrabbit, on there way to what is likely another top 10 pick. Eli will be gone after this year. There's still big holes and question marks but its a start.
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My plan would have been to have a quarterback already. I'm just saying that the way they're bashing us in the media saying we have no plan is wrong
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. We’re going to run it back this year with Eli. I can’t wait for next offseason when we do the same fukadome thing. Well, Eli can still win, right? We just need to put some pieces around him. Or the excuse: no OBJ - he didn’t have the WRs. What bull.
calm your panic bro. we arent going with eli beyond this year imo. we are just trying to remain as competitive as possible while rebuilding, it isnt difficult to understand. eli is in the last year of his deal....he wont be back. a trade for rosen, a move up for murray or haskins, or a 2020 QB will happen. either way by this time next year we are going to know who our QB of the future is for better or worse....
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My plan would have been to have a quarterback already. I'm just saying that the way they're bashing us in the media saying we have no plan is wrong
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. We’re going to run it back this year with Eli. I can’t wait for next offseason when we do the same fukadome thing. Well, Eli can still win, right? We just need to put some pieces around him. Or the excuse: no OBJ - he didn’t have the WRs. What bull.
Yeah Fukadome that!!!
...but I agree
Skip to now and the Giants have 2 1st rounders and 12 total picks in the upcoming draft. They have the makings of a solid core on the OL. And they'll likely pick up more picks during this season by trading guys like Jackrabbit, on there way to what is likely another top 10 pick. Eli will be gone after this year. There's still big holes and question marks but its a start.
Oh and aren't the Giants estimated to have 100+ mil in cap space for 2020?
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Think that’s pretty clear. On side not, I think it’s anout time to retire use of the term generational back.
I will try to lay off the generational back thing. I didn't want us to draft him but I'm really excited by him. I love watching Earl Campbell as a kid I think this kid is that dominant not that powerful but I think he could dominate a game he's the best player on the field when he steps on it
And this is overblown, too. Our DL has two young very talented players in Tomlinson and BJ Hill who moved positions mid season. A big jump in production from them isn't unrealistic. McIntosh seems to also have an upside though not as certain as the other two. Carter was groomed behind Vernon and has good tools. We've rebuilt the safety position with solid vets and Jenkins, Beal and Hailey have promise to be a decent core at CB. So, yes the plan has a defense as well.
Serving two masters means serving neither and both will fail.
Serving two masters means serving neither and both will fail.
This
Serving two masters means serving neither and both will fail.
True. Except that's not what is going on.
I am generally interested to see whether this is the offensive game plan and what happens the first time a modern offense like Philly comes in here and drops 21 points on them in the first half.
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To commit to half assed rebuilds time after time. In 1 season DG turned 90+% of the Giants roster over. I truly believe he wouldn't have re-signed O'dell without push from Mara and coming in as a 1st year GM with Eli Manning (especially after the debacle the prior season), you likely sold yourself as compelled to make a run with Eli. Tried, clearly wasn't going to work with Eli on his last legs, the drama sorrounding O'dell, and the dramatic difference in top to bottom talent.
Skip to now and the Giants have 2 1st rounders and 12 total picks in the upcoming draft. They have the makings of a solid core on the OL. And they'll likely pick up more picks during this season by trading guys like Jackrabbit, on there way to what is likely another top 10 pick. Eli will be gone after this year. There's still big holes and question marks but its a start.
Oh and aren't the Giants estimated to have 100+ mil in cap space for 2020?
120M is what I heard today
The question here is about DGs vision. In that sense I feel the team overestimated where this team was a year ago. They probably looked at 2017 as a fluke season at the hands a terrible head coach who was over his head but a roster a year away from the playoffs and opportunity to add a major weapon. And a former SB MVP QB with years left of good play.
That is not the tone this year. The sense I get is they are far more morivated to move on from Eli this year than they were a year ago. They flip flopped on thinking about Colins and OBJ. I get it, OBJ decision may have been motivated by some things he said on Twitter and his sitting out at the end of the season. But that’s a miss calculation on the team 100%. OBJ didn’t suddenly change. He’s the exact same guy now he was when DG signed on a GM of this team. If they expected a different OBJ to materialize when he signed the big contract, then shame on them. You have to be a fool to think that. Is should have been, accept OBJ for what he is or move on.
Dont sleep on the Dorsett interest either. They need a guy who can blow the top off the defense Stephen Baker style. Thats a key piece to this kind of team.
That's nonsense. There is plenty of youth in this group to build of for the near future.
They will after the draft.
This. This appears to be a good draft to have 12 picks and start restocking the defense with young, low-cost talent. Defense will probably be weak again, but opportunity for good building blocks.
Unfortunately the nfl doesn’t give out awards for being competitive. Unless that plan secured a franchise QB they can try to be as competitive as they want.
It will all be for nothing if they can’t secure that QB. And the best way to do that is to be bad in a good QB class year which next year is.
Screw being “competitive”. They tried to be competitive with a similar plan for two years and thats resulted in 8 wins. It’s time to wake up from this “competitive dream”.
I guess I should have expected this when we hired a 70+ year old GM
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Gettleman has had a good couple days, but if this approach is going to be worth it they have to compete this year.
That's nonsense. There is plenty of youth in this group to build of for the near future.
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Gettleman has had a good couple days, but if this approach is going to be worth it they have to compete this year.
That's nonsense. There is plenty of youth in this group to build of for the near future.
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Gettleman has had a good couple days, but if this approach is going to be worth it they have to compete this year.
That's nonsense. There is plenty of youth in this group to build of for the near future.
Barkley
Hernandez
what else?
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