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Barnwell: Giants lost 3rd round Comp Pick for Collins

Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 6:47 pm
From Bill Barnwell of ESPN:

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To add insult to injury, the one positive coming out of the Landon Collins situation is that the Giants were going to get a third-round compensatory pick for their star safety, who left for Washington. By signing Tate, the Giants will cancel out the compensatory pick and instead send another third-rounder to the Eagles, who are already getting one for Nick Foles.


Is this true?
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The other thread says no  
BillT : 3/14/2019 6:48 pm : link
It cancels the 5th round comp for J. Brown. That sounds more realistic.
does the math even add up?  
Platos : 3/14/2019 6:48 pm : link
i think the formula has something in it if you're the Giants you can only get a 6th or 7th comp pick ever lol
I read it cancels out the 5th rounder they would have gotten  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2019 6:48 pm : link
for Jamon Brown.
Way too early to tell  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 6:48 pm : link
You have to let free agency play out.
I call total  
Big Blue '56 : 3/14/2019 6:48 pm : link
BS
The Eagles somehow beat us in the offseason too  
The_Boss : 3/14/2019 6:49 pm : link
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The author should have know better than  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 6:49 pm : link
To write this article. He is a good writer.
that's not  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/14/2019 6:50 pm : link
how this works. It's a net gain/loss situation based on qualified FA contracts, playing time, honors. This has to play out first.

Again, I don't think we should be worrying too much about this.
we lose at this ridiculous game  
Jim Bur(n)t : 3/14/2019 6:50 pm : link
every yr.. i dont count on it but for gravy
Nice job Dave way to keep bringing the gloom and doom...  
JCin332 : 3/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
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With the super secret and special comp pick formula  
MojoEd : 3/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
This makes a lot of sense. To be completely accurate, Barnwell should also note that under the formula NEP are also entitled to a 4th because we signed Tate.
RE: Nice job Dave way to keep bringing the gloom and doom...  
Dave in Hoboken : 3/14/2019 6:51 pm : link
In comment 14338069 JCin332 said:
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I was reading the article and saw it and wasn't sure if it was true. Even asked in the OP, "Is this true?"

So, shut the fuck up you crybaby.
It is simple math  
robbieballs2003 : 3/14/2019 6:53 pm : link
We have shitty FAs overall. How many of our guys signed elsewhere? 3? If that is true then we can only sign 2 FAs whose contracts expired by other teams. This team isn't in position to not sign FA. Getting a comp pick this year is unlikely.
It doesnít work that way  
Vanzetti : 3/14/2019 6:57 pm : link
Picks donít cancel each other. The committee looks at the total number of. Players signed and lost and their contracts and petformance
Dave  
Chris684 : 3/14/2019 7:00 pm : link
You may need a timeout to gather yourself after the emotional toll the Beckham trade seems to have taken on you.
RE: The author should have know better than  
allstarjim : 3/14/2019 7:03 pm : link
In comment 14338063 SJGiant said:
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To write this article. He is a good writer.


Barnwell a good writer? He's terrible. Half the time he's just making shit up.
Based on last years numbers  
rasbutant : 3/14/2019 7:11 pm : link
But with all the high price contracts this year the cut off for 3rd rounder will be much high. I read somewhere, probably OTC that it based on percentile 95% being 3rd round and so on.

I think Tate will count as a 4th round comp, so 3rd is still in play, but they're not done yet.
Comp picks are the least of the Giants problems  
RobCarpenter : 3/14/2019 7:12 pm : link
Just draft well with the picks you have and the rest will follow.
RE: does the math even add up?  
DavidinBMNY : 3/14/2019 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14338054 Platos said:
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i think the formula has something in it if you're the Giants you can only get a 6th or 7th comp pick ever lol
It is not true except the 6th or 7th ever part.

Plus who gives a shit right now anyway about the Comp pick we are talking at best the 97th pick in the draft.
The way you have to look at the comp picks  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 7:16 pm : link
Is what is the score? How many unrestricted free agents we lose versus how many we gained. After that, there are other factors. But right now, just look at the score. Itís 3-2 in our favor. You can follow it on Ericís free agency scorecard
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Matt in SGS : 3/14/2019 7:20 pm : link
Matt  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 7:22 pm : link
I love the gif.
For what it's worth, OTC predicts we'd still get a 3rd for LC  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/14/2019 7:25 pm : link
...Personally I find it hard to believe that Golden Tate would be the same tiered player as Collins. That's the only way they'd cancel out.
OTC 2020 Comp Picks  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/14/2019 7:26 pm : link
see link
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Lost a comp pick?!?!?!  
ChaChing : 3/14/2019 7:36 pm : link


GETTLEMAN!!!!
For those unaware  
27 : 3/14/2019 7:38 pm : link
Barnwell is a deeply troubled, weird man who identifies as a Giants fan. But gets off on hating everything the Giants do. Par for the course to rush to post this regardless of the truth. Day 1 ESPN stuff
RE: With the super secret and special comp pick formula  
FStubbs : 3/14/2019 7:41 pm : link
In comment 14338074 MojoEd said:
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This makes a lot of sense. To be completely accurate, Barnwell should also note that under the formula NEP are also entitled to a 4th because we signed Tate.


That formula that gives extra points to the Patriots and Eagles? LOL
The league  
darren in pdx : 3/14/2019 7:44 pm : link
never awards the Giants comp picks and the team shouldnít make decisions based on shit thatís not gaurenteed anyway. So many knee-jerk reactions when free agency just started and the draft (with 12 picks!) hasnít even happened yet. This team will be continue to be churned up until the regular season again. Need to let it play out at this point, 12 picks is a lot to build depth, or to trade.
RE: OTC 2020 Comp Picks  
SJGiant : 3/14/2019 7:45 pm : link
In comment 14338242 sb from NYT Forum said:
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Itís that Markus Golden doesnít show up yet.
Geee  
djm : 3/14/2019 7:52 pm : link
I wonder if itís open season on the giants. Talk about a misleading article. ďThe giants will send the eagles a 3rd rounderĒ

Whaaaaaat??? The giants didnít send Philly a fucking thing and what if Philly signs a FA here soon?? And the giants didnít let Collins walk because of a possible 3rd round comp pick. That is just gravy. They let him go because they didnít want to pay him a small fortune.

Fuck everyone. This shit is out of hand.
The comp picks matter  
Go Terps : 3/14/2019 7:56 pm : link
I don't think you can sweat a pick here or there, but it's got to be a matter of policy regarding free agency: it's better to be a "seller" in FA than it is to be a "buyer" for a lot of reasons having to do with resource allocation.

What's also interesting is that it may, as a matter of policy, be cheaper to acquire veterans in trades as opposed to via the free agency process.

I wouldn't sweat this pick; this is something that has to be part of the general comprehensive plan for the team...if one exists.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2019 8:01 pm : link
In comment 14338223 Matt in SGS said:
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LOL
RE: RE: Nice job Dave way to keep bringing the gloom and doom...  
JCin332 : 3/14/2019 10:17 pm : link
In comment 14338075 Dave in Hoboken said:
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In comment 14338069 JCin332 said:


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I was reading the article and saw it and wasn't sure if it was true. Even asked in the OP, "Is this true?"

So, shut the fuck up you crybaby.


I'm a crybaby...??

I think you need to study you're complete body of work bro...
You shut up the Managment is totally distracted  
Elite Mobster #32 : 3/15/2019 5:01 pm : link
Distracted and Confused

What was the thought when Collins was not getting the Franchise tag? They had to know they could have traded him for a third because according to reports they were offered a 3rd

How do you sell a contract for nothing ?


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