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Glazer on Undisputed reference Beckham.

Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 8:53 pm
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For them, it was addition by subtraction," Glazers said. "They share the blame for it and put value on what was the best possible scenario -- instead of all the scenarios."
This line by Glazer goes to show you just how irreparable the relationship between the Giants and Beckham was when they agreed to trade him.


I'll delete if this article has already been posted.

Reading this has made me change my tune. A lot of info has already been reported here.
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This sort of jives with the Anita Marks interview  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2019 8:59 pm : link
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All on  
SHO'NUFF : 3/14/2019 9:03 pm : link
Beckham's part
Also, is anyone else kind of sick of Tisch?  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2019 9:03 pm : link
Is he a fan or an owner? I feel like hes just here to make money and bang young chicks
And to be honest  
GiantGrit : 3/14/2019 9:06 pm : link
I'm not sure if he includes that last bit about Odell if they work out at different gyms. He wanted to play the middle on it and i completely get that. But he knew the original bit was damnning and tried helping Odell safe some face.
RE: Also, is anyone else kind of sick of Tisch?  
TC : 3/14/2019 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14338442 Brown Recluse said:
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Is he a fan or an owner? I feel like hes just here to make money and bang young chicks

Who isn't!?
Ownership stayed with Reese too long  
SGMen : 3/14/2019 9:07 pm : link
First, it is easy to look back and realize the problem was Reese & his drafts. They outright sucked with exception of OBJ, by and large. Especially rounds 3 - 7, nothing worth anything to talk about!

Second, Coughlin should have been given one more year AND Reese shown the door if that year didn't work out either.

Third, bad choice with next HC - LOL. Team turned on that putz.

Fourth, see 1 to 3.
This ownership pair of Tommy Boy  
LauderdaleMatty : 3/14/2019 9:09 pm : link
Clones is the real issue. Both should be selling break pads
So we knew a...  
WeekendLife56 : 3/14/2019 9:13 pm : link
Month in advance and still tell the fan base we didnt sign him to trade him?
RE: So we knew a...  
Brown Recluse : 3/14/2019 9:16 pm : link
In comment 14338457 WeekendLife56 said:
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Month in advance and still tell the fan base we didnt sign him to trade him?


Fans need to understand that they arent privy to information all the time.
I learned to always  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 9:20 pm : link
believe Jay Glazer.
The giants dont like to trade or lose their super stars  
djm : 3/14/2019 9:21 pm : link
They will put up with a lot. With that said I dont mind placing blame at both parties. Maybe we dont even need to apply blame at this point. But it took two tango. Giants played like dog shit for the majority and Beckham got fed up with it. Whos right whos wrong who cares. Giants had two choices in the end put up and risk the outcome or trade him now.

Im just grateful hes out of the nfc. If Beckham went nfc east Id be sick.

I totally forgot Landry was there  
mattlawson : 3/14/2019 9:21 pm : link
Perfect fit
And by putting up with obj and risking the outcome  
djm : 3/14/2019 9:23 pm : link
I present the Steelers. Pitt got nothing because they didnt trade brown until they had to.
RE: This ownership pair of Tommy Boy  
BlueHurricane : 3/14/2019 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14338450 LauderdaleMatty said:
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Clones is the real issue. Both should be selling break pads


Same ownership that has four fucking Lombardi trophies in the case. Go root for the Jets.
RE: The giants dont like to trade or lose their super stars  
Go Terps : 3/14/2019 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14338478 djm said:
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They will put up with a lot. With that said I dont mind placing blame at both parties. Maybe we dont even need to apply blame at this point. But it took two tango. Giants played like dog shit for the majority and Beckham got fed up with it. Whos right whos wrong who cares. Giants had two choices in the end put up and risk the outcome or trade him now.

Im just grateful hes out of the nfc. If Beckham went nfc east Id be sick.


I would have been fine trading him to Philly. Trojan Horse.

This prick won't be playing for Cleveland in three years.
OBJ and Landry  
BlueinRoch : 3/14/2019 9:32 pm : link
I gotta feeling this is not going to end well. I do believe OBJ is an amazing talent and has the potential to be a future HOF'er. That being said, this move may not be the best for him. Hanging with his old college buddy, coached by his old college coach. For his sake, I hope the Browns are able to keep his off field distractions to a minimum.
Ok fair enough  
WeekendLife56 : 3/14/2019 9:32 pm : link
But saying we didnt sign him to trade him suggests we are all to stupid to figure out you dont sign a guy to a 95 million contract then trade him.....lol

I just cant stand this guy...I'll get over it eventually
Truthfully...  
WeekendLife56 : 3/14/2019 9:34 pm : link
I just love this team and I'm sick of feeling like we arent going to win anytime soon.....it sucks
RE: Truthfully...  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/14/2019 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14338514 WeekendLife56 said:
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I just love this team and I'm sick of feeling like we arent going to win anytime soon.....it sucks


I feel you brother
Here is the link for Glazer's comments  
Diver_Down : 3/14/2019 9:39 pm : link
for those that don't want to have to go through Schneier's trash 24/7 sports link.
Glazer direct link - ( New Window )
RE: I learned to always  
Diver_Down : 3/14/2019 9:41 pm : link
In comment 14338476 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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believe Jay Glazer.


It would be interesting if someone wants to revisit Glazer's Prediction thread in the archives. JonC. and I were clear that Glazer doesn't deal in click-bait false rumor mongering. The vast majority of BBI were dismissive of Glazer. Live and Learn.
RE: OBJ and Landry  
montanagiant : 3/14/2019 9:48 pm : link
In comment 14338504 BlueinRoch said:
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I gotta feeling this is not going to end well. I do believe OBJ is an amazing talent and has the potential to be a future HOF'er. That being said, this move may not be the best for him. Hanging with his old college buddy, coached by his old college coach. For his sake, I hope the Browns are able to keep his off field distractions to a minimum.

Add Hunt and Njoku as well as Chubb all wanting the ball
RE: RE: Also, is anyone else kind of sick of Tisch?  
mattyblue : 3/14/2019 9:52 pm : link
In comment 14338446 TC said:
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In comment 14338442 Brown Recluse said:


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Is he a fan or an owner? I feel like hes just here to make money and bang young chicks


Who isn't!?


Thank you!! I was thinking the same thing! What is the guy a priest? He should not concern himself with making money?? ...and bangin chicks? How dare he? He should do it properly like Kraft and go to weird brothels!!
The best part of that was the Baker Mayfield description:  
BlueLou'sBack : 3/14/2019 9:59 pm : link
"Baker Mayfield is a gangster."

So if OBJ tries to show him up, what then? Mayfield pops him, I guess.
That was a horribly written  
section125 : 3/14/2019 10:00 pm : link
article. Jumps all over the place. Makes innuendos instead of clearly stating the facts. If you write an article to show how Jay Glazer knew what was happening, they should have written it with all Jay's clues laid out in an organized manner. I have no doubt Jay knows his shit. He is so plugged in it is amazing. When was the last time he was wrong?
But it really makes it seem the Giants tried hard to deal with Beckham and yet he continued to shoot himself in the foot. While Glazer will not say the Lil Wayne interview was the straw that broke the camel's back, he seems to say he was out the door before then.
It also kind of proves that Gettleman got what he could for Beckham.
RE: Ownership stayed with Reese too long  
Johnny5 : 3/14/2019 10:04 pm : link
In comment 14338448 SGMen said:
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First, it is easy to look back and realize the problem was Reese & his drafts. They outright sucked with exception of OBJ, by and large. Especially rounds 3 - 7, nothing worth anything to talk about!

Second, Coughlin should have been given one more year AND Reese shown the door if that year didn't work out either.

Third, bad choice with next HC - LOL. Team turned on that putz.

Fourth, see 1 to 3.

Yep. Although to be fair, as much as I think he SUCKED as a GM I think Reese had a decent eye for skill positions. Everything else? No.
RE: That was a horribly written  
Diver_Down : 3/14/2019 10:05 pm : link
In comment 14338578 section125 said:
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article. Jumps all over the place. Makes innuendos instead of clearly stating the facts. If you write an article to show how Jay Glazer knew what was happening, they should have written it with all Jay's clues laid out in an organized manner. I have no doubt Jay knows his shit. He is so plugged in it is amazing. When was the last time he was wrong?
But it really makes it seem the Giants tried hard to deal with Beckham and yet he continued to shoot himself in the foot. While Glazer will not say the Lil Wayne interview was the straw that broke the camel's back, he seems to say he was out the door before then.
It also kind of proves that Gettleman got what he could for Beckham.


Anything from 24/7 is trash especially Dan Schneier. That is why I linked the YouTube segment directly.
RE: OBJ and Landry  
smshmth8690 : 3/14/2019 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14338504 BlueinRoch said:
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I gotta feeling this is not going to end well. I do believe OBJ is an amazing talent and has the potential to be a future HOF'er. That being said, this move may not be the best for him. Hanging with his old college buddy, coached by his old college coach. For his sake, I hope the Browns are able to keep his off field distractions to a minimum.


I hope not, fuck em, and fuck Cleveland too.
So the Giants hung on to  
oldutican : 3/14/2019 11:41 pm : link
Reese, Coughlin and Eli too long, but not OBJ? Shows that Mara values decorum over talent.
RE: That was a horribly written  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 3/14/2019 11:56 pm : link
In comment 14338578 section125 said:
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article. Jumps all over the place. Makes innuendos instead of clearly stating the facts. If you write an article to show how Jay Glazer knew what was happening, they should have written it with all Jay's clues laid out in an organized manner. I have no doubt Jay knows his shit. He is so plugged in it is amazing. When was the last time he was wrong?
But it really makes it seem the Giants tried hard to deal with Beckham and yet he continued to shoot himself in the foot. While Glazer will not say the Lil Wayne interview was the straw that broke the camel's back, he seems to say he was out the door before then.
It also kind of proves that Gettleman got what he could for Beckham.


It's also horribly written because it tries to make it seem like the Giants' offense took off when Beckham didn't play the last 4 weeks.

In reality...
- They averaged 25 points per game the final month without Beckham
- They averaged 29 points per game the final 4 weeks Beckham played

The two teams that actually needed the games the final month without Beckham held Saquon Barkley to 74 yards rushing on 35 carries. Enough of the nonsense please.
RE: RE: The giants dont like to trade or lose their super stars  
djm : 3/15/2019 12:10 am : link
In comment 14338500 Go Terps said:
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In comment 14338478 djm said:


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They will put up with a lot. With that said I dont mind placing blame at both parties. Maybe we dont even need to apply blame at this point. But it took two tango. Giants played like dog shit for the majority and Beckham got fed up with it. Whos right whos wrong who cares. Giants had two choices in the end put up and risk the outcome or trade him now.

Im just grateful hes out of the nfc. If Beckham went nfc east Id be sick.




I would have been fine trading him to Philly. Trojan Horse.

This prick won't be playing for Cleveland in three years.


We shall see. Hes going to a pretty talented team. It wont be boring. Mayfield looks like the goods, good running game and the D is pretty well stocked. Winning is the ultimate perfume. Big personalities dont tend to do well within losing environments. If they win Beckham will be fine. He would have been fine here it the giants won in my view.
RE: Here is the link for Glazer's comments  
ChaChing : 3/15/2019 12:13 am : link
In comment 14338526 Diver_Down said:
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for those that don't want to have to go through Schneier's trash 24/7 sports link. Glazer direct link - ( New Window )

Thanks for posting DD. Reading all the 'horribly written' comments on the review article, it was best to hear Glazer's words

Reposted so people watch, it's a worthwhile listen no matter how you feel about the trade

Glazer on Undisputed - ( New Window )
Then why did we give OBj the big contract?  
Doomster : 3/15/2019 6:09 am : link
AS mentioned before, we could have used the fifth year option, and then franchised him this year for a trade.....

If he acted up with the fifth year option, that would have confirmed a reason for not giving him a big contract.....DG blew this and cost us 16M in dead money this year.....he has created almost 80M, that's 80M, in dead money the last two seasons....
RE: Then why did we give OBj the big contract?  
Foobarbaz : 3/15/2019 6:47 am : link
In comment 14338840 Doomster said:
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AS mentioned before, we could have used the fifth year option, and then franchised him this year for a trade.....

If he acted up with the fifth year option, that would have confirmed a reason for not giving him a big contract.....DG blew this and cost us 16M in dead money this year.....he has created almost 80M, that's 80M, in dead money the last two seasons....



More trade value. If obj acted up like Levon Bell he wouldn't be worth crap. Sure lots of dead money this uear but he netted a first and a great Safety
RE: So we knew a...  
gmenatlarge : 3/15/2019 7:40 am : link
In comment 14338457 WeekendLife56 said:
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Month in advance and still tell the fan base we didnt sign him to trade him?


What's he going to do? Tell the whole league we're trying to trade him and lose all leverage...
RE: Then why did we give OBj the big contract?  
Brown Recluse : 3/15/2019 7:42 am : link
In comment 14338840 Doomster said:
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AS mentioned before, we could have used the fifth year option, and then franchised him this year for a trade.....

If he acted up with the fifth year option, that would have confirmed a reason for not giving him a big contract.....DG blew this and cost us 16M in dead money this year.....he has created almost 80M, that's 80M, in dead money the last two seasons....


Glazer explains why he got the big contract if you read the article. Shurmur went to bat for Beckham, stuck his neck out for him and wanted to try and make it work.
exactly  
bc4life : 3/15/2019 7:54 am : link
Shurmur thought he could handle the personality. Management was not unreasonable in giving him the chance.
Front Office and Gettleman  
bc4life : 3/15/2019 7:56 am : link
and their predecessors not blameless in this. You're a boss, gotta handle your business.
In the end, not a surprising development  
Jimmy Googs : 3/15/2019 8:57 am : link
Superstar yet head-case NFL WR becomes problematic on a continuing losing team. Throw in a few injuries, coaching changes and immaturity on both sides...and its time to bail.

Likelihood is Cleveland (and others) will struggle managing this talent too over time.

But if they somehow are successful, it will be salt in the wound...
Cleveland is accumulating a lot of talent...  
DonQuixote : 3/15/2019 10:22 am : link
...but it looks like a powder keg off the field and personality wise. We'll see how it goes.
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