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NFT: The Effects of NYC on the New York Athlete

Anakim : 3/14/2019 11:26 pm
Apologies if I got the baseball aspect wrong, since I'm not a baseball fan




But I was thinking of how many shining stars there have been over the years...and how many of them have faded, due in part because they get swept up in the hoopla that is NYC.


On one side, we have been the constant professionals who have not let fame go to their heads: Eli Manning, Derek Jeter, David Wright, Henrik Lundqvist...


But on the flip side, you have guys who SEEMINGLY, on the hoof, were low-key, down to earth kids who, for one reason or another, got big heads and became more of a distraction than an asset. What was once a promising young athlete with all the talent in the world to succeed turned into someone who was essentially chewed up and spit out by NYC, particularly the media.

Guys like Odell Beckham Jr., Kristaps Porzingis, Matt Harvey, Jeremy Lin, Jeremy Shockey (to a lesser extent).



So what can we attribute this to? Is it a situation that NYC just gave them a platform to show their true colors? Or did NYC, more or less, corrupt them and turn budding superstars into, well, douches?
Eli  
battttles : 3/14/2019 11:37 pm : link
has been a far bigger distraction from what's important -- winning -- than Odell.

Eli is washed, DG was the comfortable GM to hire. A once proud franchise now the laughingstock and only digging a deeper hole. Such an embarrassment from top to bottom.
Along this line of thinking  
BigBlue in Keys : 3/14/2019 11:39 pm : link
I look back on "The Catch" and wonder if that was the moment OBJ went to a super stardom bigger than football. Before that he was making huge plays for us but with a seemingly head down hard working attitude you like to see in a rookie. Then a media explosion, fame and his "brand" became more important than the team.

Messier  
sb from NYT Forum : 3/14/2019 11:41 pm : link
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Eli won two titles  
Shirk130 : 3/14/2019 11:42 pm : link
against the best team in NFL history. Odell has never won anything. Except the love of a kicking net.
RE: Along this line of thinking  
DC Gmen Fan : 3/15/2019 6:45 am : link
In comment 14338708 BigBlue in Keys said:
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I look back on "The Catch" and wonder if that was the moment OBJ went to a super stardom bigger than football. Before that he was making huge plays for us but with a seemingly head down hard working attitude you like to see in a rookie. Then a media explosion, fame and his "brand" became more important than the team.



This is pretty accurate in my opinion
RE: Eli  
mfsd : 3/15/2019 6:49 am : link
In comment 14338704 battttles said:
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has been a far bigger distraction from what's important -- winning -- than Odell.

Eli is washed, DG was the comfortable GM to hire. A once proud franchise now the laughingstock and only digging a deeper hole. Such an embarrassment from top to bottom.


The hatred some Giants fans have for Eli is pathetic.
Shockey was a head case before he came to NY ....  
Spider56 : 3/15/2019 7:51 am : link
I can’t comment on the others... but didn’t the Yankees pick up a pitcher in the 90s who was great before he got here? and then absolutely caved under the NY lights ?

Like the chairman says ...”if I can make it there, I’ll make it anywhere” .
RE: Shockey was a head case before he came to NY ....  
Anakim : 3/15/2019 8:34 am : link
In comment 14338973 Spider56 said:
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I can’t comment on the others... but didn’t the Yankees pick up a pitcher in the 90s who was great before he got here? and then absolutely caved under the NY lights ?

Like the chairman says ...”if I can make it there, I’ll make it anywhere” .


I remember when we drafted him, Fassel praised his maturity. One of the few things I remember when we took him.
Over the last 30 years... NYC has not been...  
moze1021 : 3/15/2019 8:49 am : link
a good place for athletes with a voice.

Think about the biggest legends over the last 30 years...

Jeter, Mariano, Piazza, Wright, Eli

All quiet superstars who toe the company line..every interview is a mixture of cliches.

The media scrutiny and brighter lights are not kind to the athlete who is active on social media and speaks his mind freely.

I mean... Mets were even talking about trading Syndergaard.

RE: Over the last 30 years... NYC has not been...  
Anakim : 3/15/2019 10:26 am : link
In comment 14339133 moze1021 said:
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a good place for athletes with a voice.

Think about the biggest legends over the last 30 years...

Jeter, Mariano, Piazza, Wright, Eli

All quiet superstars who toe the company line..every interview is a mixture of cliches.

The media scrutiny and brighter lights are not kind to the athlete who is active on social media and speaks his mind freely.

I mean... Mets were even talking about trading Syndergaard.


And I feel it's why we can't have good things for an extended period of time. You have these potentially revolutionary, game-breaking talents and our New York teams can't get rid of them before or during their prime. Sometimes it works out (see Jeremy Lin), but it is quite worrisome that so many bright lights burn out so fast and become pariahs on their team.
RE: Over the last 30 years... NYC has not been...  
giantsFC : 3/15/2019 10:57 am : link
In comment 14339133 moze1021 said:
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a good place for athletes with a voice.

Think about the biggest legends over the last 30 years...

Jeter, Mariano, Piazza, Wright, Eli

All quiet superstars who toe the company line..every interview is a mixture of cliches.

The media scrutiny and brighter lights are not kind to the athlete who is active on social media and speaks his mind freely.

I mean... Mets were even talking about trading Syndergaard.


When was this Huge talent of professionalism not successful and well loved in ANY market on ANY team?

Joe Montana
Jerry Rice
EMMIT Smith
Troy Aikman
Tom Brady

See Pittsburgh, Cleveland w Johnny Boozeball, Dallas w TO, , Atlanta w Vick, Oakland w anyone, Washington w anyone, Cincinnati w chad Johnson, randy moss in Minnesota, etc etc.

It’s often the player personality and how they stride for professionalism that correlated to their success in a team game.

NBA is the exception of the big 3 as one player can carry a team and does t effect 30-70 guys. Hence why Allen Iverson, Shaq, Lebron, thrive.

IDK...  
moze1021 : 3/15/2019 11:41 am : link
Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Manny Ramirez, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Bryce Harper

Just off top of my head..
RE: IDK...  
moze1021 : 3/15/2019 11:42 am : link
In comment 14339746 moze1021 said:
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Michael Jordan, Allen Iverson, Manny Ramirez, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Shaq, Bryce Harper

Just off top of my head..


Noted about NBA... I shouldn't have included those guys.... good point about NBA
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