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Anyone Else Get A Sense That It’s Going To Be Daniel Jones?

Saos1n : 3/15/2019 7:05 am
For better or for worse.

Good play action passer, while we have a newly established running game. 3 year starter. Coached by Cutcliffe. Could use a year to sit behind Eli, a friend of his, which is something the Giants seem hell bent to do. Has a little mobility in him, which Shurmur has stated he looks for. Similar demeanor as Eli.

Murray won’t be an option. Rosen would start right away, which removes Eli from the picture. Haskins doesn’t seem to have the mobility that Shurmur looks for.

Recently acquired #17, with the ammo to trade up if necessary.

I, personally, hope not. It just seems to be heading that way.
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RE: Again,  
ZogZerg : 3/15/2019 7:43 am : link
In comment 14338888 Big Blue '56 said:
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whoever our QB guru likes, will be fine with me


I wouldn't expect anything different from you.
Jury is still out for me.
RE: RE: Yup. I’ve had this feeling for a while.  
Brown Recluse : 3/15/2019 7:44 am : link
In comment 14338947 ajr2456 said:
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In comment 14338941 Brown Recluse said:


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Not a fan.



See we can agree on something


First time for everything :)
I hope they don't use the 17  
fkap : 3/15/2019 7:46 am : link
or a second rounder to take a QB.

17 is well past the premium QB draft spot, and way too soon to take a flier. second round is an ok spot to take a flier, but this team can't afford to take a flier and give up a very valuable draft spot.

No to a QB. No to the KC model.
It better not be Jones  
giantstock : 3/15/2019 8:00 am : link
If it is - you might as well call us the Detroit Lions during Sanders career.
If they draft Dave Brown II higher than the  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/15/2019 8:09 am : link
Third round, then we know it’s going to be a long couple of years.
.  
arcarsenal : 3/15/2019 8:13 am : link
Hope not.
I think NYG  
Pep22 : 3/15/2019 8:15 am : link
is in DEFCON 5 mode as it relates to getting a QB. However, I think Daniel Jones is an awful QB prospect. Reminds me of Elvis Grbac in many ways (the sum is par less than the parts).
RE: I think NYG  
ajr2456 : 3/15/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14339030 Pep22 said:
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is in DEFCON 5 mode as it relates to getting a QB. However, I think Daniel Jones is an awful QB prospect. Reminds me of Elvis Grbac in many ways (the sum is par less than the parts).


Isn’t 1 the highest?
RE: RE: Again,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 8:18 am : link
In comment 14338955 ZogZerg said:
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In comment 14338888 Big Blue '56 said:


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whoever our QB guru likes, will be fine with me



I wouldn't expect anything different from you.
Jury is still out for me.


Only because of Shurmur’s work with Foles(his 27 TD 2 INT year), Bradford, Bridgewater (pre-injury) and Keenum..
RE: I think NYG  
arcarsenal : 3/15/2019 8:19 am : link
In comment 14339030 Pep22 said:
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is in DEFCON 5 mode as it relates to getting a QB. However, I think Daniel Jones is an awful QB prospect. Reminds me of Elvis Grbac in many ways (the sum is par less than the parts).


I don't think they're in that mode at all right now - they seem pretty content with Eli.

I expect a 1 year extension news to come sooner than later.
RE: RE: Again,  
bw in dc : 3/15/2019 8:22 am : link
In comment 14338892 Saos1n said:
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In comment 14338888 Big Blue '56 said:


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whoever our QB guru likes, will be fine with me



Unfortunately, I don’t have that trust level with this admin, yet


BB’56 drinks the Kool-Aid served up by Jints Central in gallons.
Daniel Jones...  
bw in dc : 3/15/2019 8:31 am : link
is absolutely the kind of QB I could see Jints Central targeting. He checks a lot of the “Giants Way” boxes.

But I don’t think he’s one of the top six available QBs. I really find nothing interesting or outstanding about his skills.
RE: Daniel Jones...  
arcarsenal : 3/15/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14339071 bw in dc said:
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is absolutely the kind of QB I could see Jints Central targeting. He checks a lot of the “Giants Way” boxes.

But I don’t think he’s one of the top six available QBs. I really find nothing interesting or outstanding about his skills.


He looks like a crappy Ryan Tannehill to me.

I tried to warm myself up to him a couple months ago, but I just really don't see it.
RE: Unfortunately, yes  
Boy Cord : 3/15/2019 8:32 am : link
In comment 14338881 Mike from Ohio said:
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The arm strength issue doesn’t seem to bother DG and PS much, or else we wouldn’t likely have drafted Lauletta.

Jones at #17 feels like a very Giants move.


I know it’s unfair to compare and I have no basis for this, but it just feels like Dave Brown all over again.
I don’t see it happening in the 1st Round  
Torrag : 3/15/2019 8:34 am : link
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I don't really think  
ryanmkeane : 3/15/2019 8:34 am : link
they are going to draft Daniel Jones. After passing on last year's QBs and then passing on the perceived good ones this year, to take Daniel Jones after all of that would be an absolute nightmare for the media and fans, and if he turns out to be "eh"....all these guys get fired and probably never get another head job in football. It's a massive risk that they won't take.
Rosen would NOT  
jvm52106 : 3/15/2019 8:34 am : link
have to start if we trade for him. Why would think he HAS to start? The Giants can let him learn from Eli and get his feet firmly under him in regards to Shurmur's offense.

I am warming up to Rosen in a trade. He is far better than Haskins, Jones and Murray (Murray's size is just too much of an issue to look past). Murray to me needs to be in a warm climate and preferably a dome team that plays wide open.
No i don’t see that.  
Giant John : 3/15/2019 8:41 am : link
Nor do I see Rosen in the Giants plans.
RE: Rosen would NOT  
Foobarbaz : 3/15/2019 8:42 am : link
In comment 14339088 jvm52106 said:
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have to start if we trade for him. Why would think he HAS to start? The Giants can let him learn from Eli and get his feet firmly under him in regards to Shurmur's offense.

I am warming up to Rosen in a trade. He is far better than Haskins, Jones and Murray (Murray's size is just too much of an issue to look past). Murray to me needs to be in a warm climate and preferably a dome team that plays wide open.


No matter learns shit under Eli, we've had a handful qbs "learn" under him and they sll turned out as shit. Risen is best starting day one for his own sanity
Eli isn't training anyone  
gtt350 : 3/15/2019 8:44 am : link
who the hell trains someone to take their job
RE: RE: Unfortunately, yes  
eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 8:47 am : link
In comment 14339081 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 14338881 Mike from Ohio said:


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The arm strength issue doesn’t seem to bother DG and PS much, or else we wouldn’t likely have drafted Lauletta.

Jones at #17 feels like a very Giants move.



I know it’s unfair to compare and I have no basis for this, but it just feels like Dave Brown all over again.


And they both went to Duke, a real football powerhouse. I’d rather wait until 2020 than take Jones. I’d trade for Rosen before I would draft this guy.
What about Drew Lock at 17?  
5BowlsSoon : 3/15/2019 8:59 am : link
Thoughts?
Drew - ( New Window )
RE: RE: I think NYG  
Pep22 : 3/15/2019 9:01 am : link
In comment 14339035 ajr2456 said:
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is in DEFCON 5 mode as it relates to getting a QB. However, I think Daniel Jones is an awful QB prospect. Reminds me of Elvis Grbac in many ways (the sum is par less than the parts).



Isn’t 1 the highest?


Indeed, I had it reversed in my head. i stand corrected.
They are fashioning a new offense now  
TMS : 3/15/2019 9:01 am : link
without OBJ as a big deep threat. the focus seems like it will be ball control with a heavy dose of Barkley if this new OL works out. Maybe Jones fits into that scheme similar to the way Lauletta was thought too. He has the other ELI qualities with a better Ol plus Barkley and a stronger defense bieng built. Shurmur/ Shula/DG (QB gurus) were brought here with this in mind considering ELI's age. Saving picks this draft has its advantages as well. We will see and keep guessing.
RE: They are fashioning a new offense now  
ajr2456 : 3/15/2019 9:04 am : link
In comment 14339165 TMS said:
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without OBJ as a big deep threat. the focus seems like it will be ball control with a heavy dose of Barkley if this new OL works out. Maybe Jones fits into that scheme similar to the way Lauletta was thought too. He has the other ELI qualities with a better Ol plus Barkley and a stronger defense bieng built. Shurmur/ Shula/DG (QB gurus) were brought here with this in mind considering ELI's age. Saving picks this draft has its advantages as well. We will see and keep guessing.


Drafting a QB who best fits into a ball control scheme is begging for mediocrity
RE: RE: They are fashioning a new offense now  
giantstock : 3/15/2019 9:07 am : link
In comment 14339175 ajr2456 said:
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without OBJ as a big deep threat. the focus seems like it will be ball control with a heavy dose of Barkley if this new OL works out. Maybe Jones fits into that scheme similar to the way Lauletta was thought too. He has the other ELI qualities with a better Ol plus Barkley and a stronger defense bieng built. Shurmur/ Shula/DG (QB gurus) were brought here with this in mind considering ELI's age. Saving picks this draft has its advantages as well. We will see and keep guessing.



Drafting a QB who best fits into a ball control scheme is begging for mediocrity


+1.
God I hope not  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 9:28 am : link
he doesn't have a high enough upside and I just see Blaine Gabbert 2.0 with this guy. If the Giants do draft him in round 1 then I will feel very bad about the future direction of this team.
RE: What about Drew Lock at 17?  
JohnF : 3/15/2019 9:37 am : link
In comment 14339160 5BowlsSoon said:
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Thoughts? Drew - ( New Window )


Lock isn't getting past #10 (Denver). Elway loves the guy.
RE: They are fashioning a new offense now  
Jay in Toronto : 3/15/2019 9:55 am : link
In comment 14339165 TMS said:
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without OBJ as a big deep threat. the focus seems like it will be ball control with a heavy dose of Barkley if this new OL works out. Maybe Jones fits into that scheme similar to the way Lauletta was thought too. He has the other ELI qualities with a better Ol plus Barkley and a stronger defense bieng built. Shurmur/ Shula/DG (QB gurus) were brought here with this in mind considering ELI's age. Saving picks this draft has its advantages as well. We will see and keep guessing.


I think OBJ was less of a deep threat once he came back from his injury. More of a slot and medium threat and then juke hi s way for a longer gain.
RE: RE: What about Drew Lock at 17?  
NoPeanutz : 3/15/2019 10:06 am : link
In comment 14339282 JohnF said:
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Thoughts? Drew - ( New Window )



Lock isn't getting past #10 (Denver). Elway loves the guy.

So why don't we trade down with him?
RE: RE: What about Drew Lock at 17?  
bw in dc : 3/15/2019 10:09 am : link
In comment 14339282 JohnF said:
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Thoughts? Drew - ( New Window )



Lock isn't getting past #10 (Denver). Elway loves the guy.


I’m not sure about that anymore. Sure, it still could, but I get the feeling there is a groundswell of support for Finley and Elway is in that group.
RE: RE: RE: What about Drew Lock at 17?  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 10:12 am : link
In comment 14339398 NoPeanutz said:
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Thoughts? Drew - ( New Window )



Lock isn't getting past #10 (Denver). Elway loves the guy.


So why don't we trade down with him?


Then miss out on an impact defense player.
No, I don't see Jones  
section125 : 3/15/2019 10:12 am : link
at all at #17. I think DG will be all in on defense at #6 and #17. Probably OL at #37 anad then with the 4s and 5s. I'd look WR at 95.
The Giants want to give Eli a graceful exit strategy. I think it will  
Ivan15 : 3/15/2019 10:12 am : link
Come through a contract extension, lowering his cap number and an opportunity to hold off a challenger for as long as he can, then be the backup for the remainder of his contract.

Eli will refuse that deal only if he thinks he can be #1 elsewhere.
I can see NYG  
Gregorio : 3/15/2019 10:15 am : link
Liking Jones. Many similarities to Eli.
RE: If that’s the plan  
Pan-handler : 3/15/2019 10:35 am : link
In comment 14338932 ajr2456 said:
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Than God help us all. Jones isn’t good, and while Haskins has his faults he would still be a first round pick in any other draft. Jones would be a day 2 guy at best in any other draft.


Lol drafting 3 MVPs of the Senior Bowl...3rd times the charm!
Lol just kidding Im not high on Jones would take any of Murray, Haskins or Lock over him. The Giants apparently were all over Lock at the Senior Bowl and he arguably showed the best all week and in the game (despite the MVP going to Jones)
RE: Daniel Jones  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/15/2019 10:36 am : link
In comment 14338903 Josh in the City said:
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Isn’t a day 2 QB let alone day 1. If the giants draft him bc he reminds of them Eli then that’s it for me. I’d be done.


Lol. You need to grow the fuck up.
Only if he drops to the  
cjac : 3/15/2019 10:38 am : link
38th pick. I want 2 defensive guy in round 1
RE: RE: Daniel Jones  
arcarsenal : 3/15/2019 10:39 am : link
In comment 14339549 McNally's_Nuts said:
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In comment 14338903 Josh in the City said:


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Isn’t a day 2 QB let alone day 1. If the giants draft him bc he reminds of them Eli then that’s it for me. I’d be done.



Lol. You need to grow the fuck up.


Being free from Josh in the City's non-stop whining would almost be worth taking Jones. Almost.
I'd be fine with Haskins, Lock, or Jones  
PatersonPlank : 3/15/2019 10:41 am : link
Honestly, can anyone on BBI tell me one is going to be a better pro than the other? Its all personal opinion. If our scouts (pro football experts) decide Jones has what it takes, and can be had at 17, then I'm in. Same with Lock at 17 (Haskins likely will be gone). Use our #6 for a stud D player, let Jones sit for a year, and go. Jones is absolutely one of the top 3 or 4 QBs in this draft (although I really don't want Murray).
RE: No, I don't see Jones  
Eman11 : 3/15/2019 10:43 am : link
In comment 14339427 section125 said:
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at all at #17. I think DG will be all in on defense at #6 and #17. Probably OL at #37 anad then with the 4s and 5s. I'd look WR at 95.


I think you're pretty spot on here.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them grab a TE either but doubt it will be with one of the premium picks. I think with Shurmur's love for them and what seems like a shift to control the lines, getting a true dual threat at TE could definitely be in play.
I've thought Jones all year.  
mittenedman : 3/15/2019 10:48 am : link
He's exactly what the Giants look for in a QB.

He's not a gym shorts guy but he's kind of a coach's dream. Great mechanics, will figure out the offense and do exactly what you're asking him to. Will put in all the extra work getting on the same page with the receivers. Has a competitive toughness about him in games willing himself to move down the field. And you won't find him getting sidetracked by all the distractions that come along with NFL.

I realize I'm the only one that likes him - but I do. And more than that, I'm convinced the Giants will like him.
RE: RE: RE: Daniel Jones  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/15/2019 10:54 am : link
In comment 14339557 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14338903 Josh in the City said:


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Isn’t a day 2 QB let alone day 1. If the giants draft him bc he reminds of them Eli then that’s it for me. I’d be done.



Lol. You need to grow the fuck up.



Being free from Josh in the City's non-stop whining would almost be worth taking Jones. Almost.


Imagine whining so much because the football team you root for didn’t do what YOU wanted them to do.

Good riddance. Absolute loser.
Not necessarily  
ghost718 : 3/15/2019 10:58 am : link
But it is nice to see another quarterbacks name.I thought my draft guide was defective.
I want to believe that this is just a lazy narrative  
gmen9892 : 3/15/2019 11:54 am : link
I want to believe that people are just connecting the dots.

1) Cutcliffe connection
2) Jones looks and talks like Eli
3) Jones is smart and fits the mold of what the Giants want in a QB.


Please let this just be a lazy narrative.
RE: I want to believe that this is just a lazy narrative  
bw in dc : 3/15/2019 11:58 am : link
In comment 14339796 gmen9892 said:
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I want to believe that people are just connecting the dots.

1) Cutcliffe connection
2) Jones looks and talks like Eli
3) Jones is smart and fits the mold of what the Giants want in a QB.


Please let this just be a lazy narrative.


I'm not sure what you mean. Jints Central loves these dots.

It's a bit more robust. Jones also attends the Manning's QB camp. I think he now attends as an instructor, and may have attended when he was a kid. And I know he's worked out with Eli on his own...
RE: RE: I want to believe that this is just a lazy narrative  
McNally's_Nuts : 3/15/2019 12:06 pm : link
In comment 14339810 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14339796 gmen9892 said:


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I want to believe that people are just connecting the dots.

1) Cutcliffe connection
2) Jones looks and talks like Eli
3) Jones is smart and fits the mold of what the Giants want in a QB.


Please let this just be a lazy narrative.



I'm not sure what you mean. Jints Central loves these dots.

It's a bit more robust. Jones also attends the Manning's QB camp. I think he now attends as an instructor, and may have attended when he was a kid. And I know he's worked out with Eli on his own...


I think you could swing a dead cat and find a college QB who attended the Manning Passing Academy...
I'd  
AcidTest : 3/15/2019 12:53 pm : link
be surprised, but not stunned, if the Giants took Jones at #17. The irony is he might be gone by then. But I still see the Giants passing on a QB in the first round. I'd be very hesitant about taking Jones at #17.
Jones  
Ron Johnson : 3/15/2019 12:57 pm : link
doesn't have a "Meadowlands" arm

short hops a lot of passes, which gets compounded in the swirling winds
I am curious how anyone could have any sense of anything  
LG in NYC : 3/15/2019 12:59 pm : link
to do with this team right now.

all signs point to decisions being made with a dart and a dartboard.

we're rebuilding, no we're not - we're signing vet WR's for big guaranteed money... no, we're all in on Eli... no we're going to draft a QB or maybe trade for Rosen.

Is anyone minding the store over there in E. Rutherford?
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