For better or for worse.
Good play action passer, while we have a newly established running game. 3 year starter. Coached by Cutcliffe. Could use a year to sit behind Eli, a friend of his, which is something the Giants seem hell bent to do. Has a little mobility in him, which Shurmur has stated he looks for. Similar demeanor as Eli.
Murray won’t be an option. Rosen would start right away, which removes Eli from the picture. Haskins doesn’t seem to have the mobility that Shurmur looks for.
Recently acquired #17, with the ammo to trade up if necessary.
I, personally, hope not. It just seems to be heading that way.
I will say, from what I’ve seen, he appears accurate. Can he succeed in the northeast weather conditions? I don’t know about that
Jones at #17 feels like a very Giants move.
Who knows? I’m just a dude
Unfortunately, I don’t have that trust level with this admin, yet
What I do think is going to happen (Not sure how I feel about it) is that they are going to trade up to 1 for Kyler Murray. No clue why I think that. Just have a gut feeling.
So, what about DG’s comments about the Kansas City model? That means grooming that guy THIS year. If that weren’t the case, you would figure they would restructure his deal and add a year so he can groom them next season. Although, I will admit, they could go into the draft hoping for a particular QB and if they don’t succeed, they could always restructure him later. So, what’s the rush? I just don’t see it playing out that way
I hope that’s the case
Starting a bunch of rookies on defense doesn't make you all in. You're not winning anything by loading up on 4th and 5th round defensive picks.
I’m concerned for your fandom
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Isn’t a day 2 QB let alone day 1. If the giants draft him bc he reminds of them Eli then that’s it for me. I’d be done.
I’m concerned for your fandom
Same
I will say, from what I’ve seen, he appears accurate. Can he succeed in the northeast weather conditions? I don’t know about that
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They’re gonna load up on defenders and (maybe a RT) in the draft.
So, what about DG’s comments about the Kansas City model? That means grooming that guy THIS year. If that weren’t the case, you would figure they would restructure his deal and add a year so he can groom them next season. Although, I will admit, they could go into the draft hoping for a particular QB and if they don’t succeed, they could always restructure him later. So, what’s the rush? I just don’t see it playing out that way
People have to read between the lines of what DG says.
"We didn't sign Odel to trade him" doesn't mean he won't be traded
"The Kansas City Model" doesn't mean they are following that model
"No guts no glory" means he doesn't give a crap what anyone says in the media or our emotional temper tantrums. He's going to do what he believes is best to build a winning program (and he achieved it in Carolina). That should mean no one is safe. OBJ got traded - Eli should have his head on a swivel.
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They’re gonna load up on defenders and (maybe a RT) in the draft.
Starting a bunch of rookies on defense doesn't make you all in. You're not winning anything by loading up on 4th and 5th round defensive picks.
Exactly my point. They think they’re going to be good enough on offense and if they mix in what they have now plus a few rookies that might be good enough on defense. To me, that’s another half measure. And I guess they haven’t learned by now that half measures don’t work.
See we can agree on something
One good thing about going all in is that it stopped us from going crazy in 1st tier FA (the first part of this is serious, the second part sarcasm).
No offense to whomever said it, but it's fucking moronic to cling to the 'all in' mantra. Does anyone really think they wouldn't draft/acquire his replacement this year if they thought the replacement was available? There may be reasons not to go with Eli again this year, but 'all in' is not one of them.
I wouldn't expect anything different from you.
Jury is still out for me.
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Not a fan.
See we can agree on something
First time for everything :)
17 is well past the premium QB draft spot, and way too soon to take a flier. second round is an ok spot to take a flier, but this team can't afford to take a flier and give up a very valuable draft spot.
No to a QB. No to the KC model.
Isn’t 1 the highest?
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whoever our QB guru likes, will be fine with me
I wouldn't expect anything different from you.
Jury is still out for me.
Only because of Shurmur’s work with Foles(his 27 TD 2 INT year), Bradford, Bridgewater (pre-injury) and Keenum..
I don't think they're in that mode at all right now - they seem pretty content with Eli.
I expect a 1 year extension news to come sooner than later.
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whoever our QB guru likes, will be fine with me
Unfortunately, I don’t have that trust level with this admin, yet
BB’56 drinks the Kool-Aid served up by Jints Central in gallons.
But I don’t think he’s one of the top six available QBs. I really find nothing interesting or outstanding about his skills.
But I don’t think he’s one of the top six available QBs. I really find nothing interesting or outstanding about his skills.
He looks like a crappy Ryan Tannehill to me.
I tried to warm myself up to him a couple months ago, but I just really don't see it.
Jones at #17 feels like a very Giants move.
I know it’s unfair to compare and I have no basis for this, but it just feels like Dave Brown all over again.
I am warming up to Rosen in a trade. He is far better than Haskins, Jones and Murray (Murray's size is just too much of an issue to look past). Murray to me needs to be in a warm climate and preferably a dome team that plays wide open.
I am warming up to Rosen in a trade. He is far better than Haskins, Jones and Murray (Murray's size is just too much of an issue to look past). Murray to me needs to be in a warm climate and preferably a dome team that plays wide open.
No matter learns shit under Eli, we've had a handful qbs "learn" under him and they sll turned out as shit. Risen is best starting day one for his own sanity
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The arm strength issue doesn’t seem to bother DG and PS much, or else we wouldn’t likely have drafted Lauletta.
Jones at #17 feels like a very Giants move.
I know it’s unfair to compare and I have no basis for this, but it just feels like Dave Brown all over again.
And they both went to Duke, a real football powerhouse. I’d rather wait until 2020 than take Jones. I’d trade for Rosen before I would draft this guy.
Drew - ( New Window )
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is in DEFCON 5 mode as it relates to getting a QB. However, I think Daniel Jones is an awful QB prospect. Reminds me of Elvis Grbac in many ways (the sum is par less than the parts).
Isn’t 1 the highest?
Indeed, I had it reversed in my head. i stand corrected.
Drafting a QB who best fits into a ball control scheme is begging for mediocrity