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Call me crazy - but I think we will be a much better team

PatersonPlank : 3/15/2019 9:54 am
After drinking on this, I've decided the media is full of crap. We will be much improved this year:

- Our OL will be much improved, giving Eli more time and Barkley more room to run

- Our defense will be much better. I really like Golden, Peppers, and Bethea. In addition our young players who looked good last season will be a year older, and we will add lots of good players vi the draft (and maybe another FA)

What needs to still be done:

- We need a #1 WR. We can't replace OBJ but we can get another good receiver via FA or draft. Tate, Shepard, EE, and a #1 is not a bad corp. I can make the case this will be better than we had most of the past two seasons during the 50% of the games OBJ missed. Plus as teams like the Pats show, have in superstar WR is not a mandatory part of winning. Getting capable guys, who run good routes and understand the game, are just as important.

- Our future QB. Either Rosen (my preference), or via draft. I've come to the conclusion that any of the top 4 or 5 in this draft have about the same opportunity for success (or bust). I can't really make a case that Haskins will turn out better than Lock or Jones (for example), or the midget can/can not be an NFL QB.

Fix these two easily fixable areas and we're much better. Sprinkle in our large amount of draft picks, stir in our improved cap space, and I'm a buyer.
Agree  
Joey from GlenCove : 3/15/2019 9:55 am : link
if remmers comes here.
I just hope we don't reach for a QB  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 3/15/2019 9:59 am : link
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We will probably have a better  
ryanmkeane : 3/15/2019 9:59 am : link
record this upcoming season. But I think the big thing with media and fans is the whole "future plan" with the QB. They have stuck with Eli until literally the end, which most "in the know" or connected with the media in some form or fashion, pretty much disagree with completely and use that as fuel to say "they have no direction."

What they don't know, or either refuse to accept or believe, is that that was the Giants plan all along. To stick with Eli until the contract runs out, improve the "team" in the meantime, rid the locker room of me first guys, rid the locker room of guys who don't want to commit to the Giant way, and then clear the cap for 2020 with hopefully a new QB on tap, with a shitload of money, and good picks in tow so that we won't have to completely tear the whole thing down and wait another 5 years to be good.
The more I sleep on it  
HoodieGelo : 3/15/2019 9:59 am : link
the more I feel the same way as you. We aren't the 2017 Browns. We're just not. A couple more pieces and I believe good things are going to happen.
RE: Agree  
Eric on Li : 3/15/2019 9:59 am : link
In comment 14339350 Joey from GlenCove said:
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if remmers comes here.


As long as they remain motivated to find a veteran RT they will find one. In addition to Remmers, Ryan Schraeder was cut after starting most of the last 4 years for Atlanta at RT. Jared Veldheer is out there too.
Agreed  
CalZone : 3/15/2019 10:00 am : link
No doubt in my mind.
I would take the over on 7-9. I called Boomer and Gio on this yesterday morning. Gio admitted he could see this happening which would make the drafting of a QB more confusing in 2020 because of the draft position being lower. Boomer wasn't having anything of it. It's important for him for the Giants to do bad to fulfill his desire to be right at all costs.
Only some BBIers pay attention  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 10:01 am : link
to what the media thinks. That ended for ME after they did everything they could to discredit us from 1986 onward and incessantly buildup the Bears, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles and Redskins
Quite honestly,  
ryanmkeane : 3/15/2019 10:01 am : link
Gettleman's plan isn't really that hard to understand. But these folks in the media, twitter, all that shit, they just can't help themselves when a team "appears" to not know what they are doing.

The Giants know what they are doing, it just isn't going to be all rainbows and butterflies on our way to get there.
RE: Agreed  
NYG007 : 3/15/2019 10:02 am : link
In comment 14339371 CalZone said:
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No doubt in my mind.
I would take the over on 7-9. I called Boomer and Gio on this yesterday morning. Gio admitted he could see this happening which would make the drafting of a QB more confusing in 2020 because of the draft position being lower. Boomer wasn't having anything of it. It's important for him for the Giants to do bad to fulfill his desire to be right at all costs.


If we dont draft a qb this year and go 7-9 or better, you are looking at resigning Eli and us being mediocre for 2 more years. I am a Giants fan, I want to win. I can never root for losses, ever. However, WE NEED A F*CKING FUTURE QB fans, period.
The Eagles and Rams  
ryanmkeane : 3/15/2019 10:04 am : link
both traded up significantly to get their guy. And they could do this because they had lots of money to spend, and had made good draft picks for a few years.

Giants can do the same in 2020.
6-10  
cjac : 3/15/2019 10:07 am : link
Thats how I feel right now

If they draft Devin White and another game wrecking defensive guy with the #17 pick maybe 8-8
RE: Quite honestly,  
Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 10:07 am : link
In comment 14339375 ryanmkeane said:
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Gettleman's plan isn't really that hard to understand. But these folks in the media, twitter, all that shit, they just can't help themselves when a team "appears" to not know what they are doing.

The Giants know what they are doing, it just isn't going to be all rainbows and butterflies on our way to get there.


What makes this hilarious, truly, is on the one hand, some here say it will be a few year(orlonger) rebuild and when DG takes steps to do just that(while still wanting to win obviously), we suddenly have zero direction. I know, Iím trying to figure out that line of (non) thinking as well
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Danny Kanell : 3/15/2019 10:07 am : link
We have completely gutted the culture of this team. The culture has been losing with talented losing players.

This was all sorely needed.

If they feel like they can bring some talent in to try and win also, Iím all for it. Itís obvious we need to find the QB replacement ASAP but we can still try to win in the meantime. Itís also obvious Eli is on his last legs but we all know if we can block in front of him, heís at least serviceable, maybe more than that.

Hopefully we shore up RT. Use all those picks on continuing to rebuild the roster and maybe just maybe, find the QB of the future.
If the Oline comes through  
Motley Two : 3/15/2019 10:08 am : link
and get themselves into the top half of Oline units in the league, the Giants can present a tough match up.

Move chains, control the clock, control field position, keep that defense rested.

I don't  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 3/15/2019 10:10 am : link
The offense was a piece away from being an Elite level even with Eli behind center.

Now we will have a great line, but will see loaded boxes to stop Saquon because we don't have an outside receiver at all.

Shep - Nice player nothing special slot guy
EE - Plays primarily in the slot
Tate - Another slot guy

We need an outside receiver and pretty badly because what we have now is just not going to cut it. I don't think we will be drafting a WR early either.

The defensive safeties are better. Markus Golden is a question mark and we need a proven CB and linebackers as well.

The defense is kind of a middle ground for me. Starting Safties have improved, pass rush is a giant question mark, and we have no depth at CB.

If we fix the OL  
Chip : 3/15/2019 10:10 am : link
We will be a better team with or without OBJ. It all starts up front and if their is a pocket to step up into the tackles will have an easier job. Can you imagine what Saquon could do with the Dallas OL. Lets not forget we did lead the NFC east in scoring with a bad OL.
I feel the same  
MarineMan : 3/15/2019 10:14 am : link
I received a text from my buddy who is an Eagle fan. I thought he was joking. When i seen it come across the screen i was not pissed at all. I know OBJ is a talent of the charts. I just looked at how mature Barkley came in as a rookie and stayed humble from the beginning. He had a great year and never lost his head.

I just remember that NYG vs MINN game. The whole team had to concentrate on calming him down and the team could not focus on winning.

This team was missing leadership and I feel the Giants didn't need the drama. It was time to move on. Barkley lets his play on the field speak for itself. The team needed an overhaul. I like what they have done so far and hopefully it will get better.
Giants  
PaulN : 3/15/2019 10:17 am : link
Will have a better record then they did last season, I don't see a playoff team this season, but you never know, if they become a team, that will make up for a lot of deficiencies. The Giants have stuck with Eli too long, last season was the year to grab Darnold, but that is past now and we have to hope Gettleman was right to take Barkley and he will get us a QB for the future, I hope this year, but I have given up on trying to predict anything anymore. Losing Beckham for me was the first step in me buying into the team again, maybe it wasn't his fault, but what he brought to the team outside of football was not what the giants need to win games. Let's hope Gettleman brings back Giants football. I know Boomer Esiason is convinced Odell wanted out and the Giants got a great deal when you consider what Pitt got for brown, I think he may be right.
You are crazy  
AdamBrag : 3/15/2019 10:17 am : link
As of right now, we have one of the worst defenses in the league and an offense that will fall apart if we fall behind in a game.
RE: RE: Quite honestly,  
Tesla : 3/15/2019 10:17 am : link
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Gettleman's plan isn't really that hard to understand. But these folks in the media, twitter, all that shit, they just can't help themselves when a team "appears" to not know what they are doing.

The Giants know what they are doing, it just isn't going to be all rainbows and butterflies on our way to get there.



What makes this hilarious, truly, is on the one hand, some here say it will be a few year(orlonger) rebuild and when DG takes steps to do just that(while still wanting to win obviously), we suddenly have zero direction. I know, Iím trying to figure out that line of (non) thinking as well


There was not a single poster who was more wrong about the team last year than you were. You consistently told us that they were really a good team and were about to turn it around every single week, all evidence to the contrary.

So maybe don't criticize other posters as (non) thinkers for a bit until you get something right yourself.
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Uh, who's playing cornerback? Jenkins (who's getting up there)  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/15/2019 10:18 am : link
and Beal (who hasn't played a down in the NFL yet)? Who's the slot corner?

Are we happy with our linebackers? The good news is that Ogletree got a lot of practice reading the names on the backs of the jerseys on all the TEs in the league, so he should know who they all are now. We've got some promising second year guys. It's worth noting that the defense got worse after Snacks left. Who's his replacement?

Who's the FS, udfa Curtis Riley?

Golden may be an improvement from Vernon and Peppers is at least younger and cheaper than Collins, but the most likely result for both these moves is probably a wash.

Although the OL is improved, we are worse at the skill
positions.

We were a terrible team last year. Five wins, two of which came against teams with winning records. I don't see enough improvement to be optimistic.
My concerns as we go into the year with Eli are mental  
The_Boss : 3/15/2019 10:19 am : link
Iím sure there will me minimal physical limitations but at age 38, can he see the field better than he has recently and can he shake off being gunshy and/or feeling phantom pressure? If the answer is YES, maybe we can do things this year.
RE: The Eagles and Rams  
Eman11 : 3/15/2019 10:20 am : link
In comment 14339390 ryanmkeane said:
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both traded up significantly to get their guy. And they could do this because they had lots of money to spend, and had made good draft picks for a few years.

Giants can do the same in 2020.


Agreed 100%
Ahem....forgot COREY COLEMAN  
5BowlsSoon : 3/15/2019 10:22 am : link
You guys are going to be in for a surprise this year. The Giants like what they see. It takes time to learn a new system. That Resakins game was all I needed to see. Plus his KO returns are outstanding. Oh, how about 4.37 speed. Watch him.....donít forget 5bowls told you first.
He is only 24 - ( New Window )
RE: I don't  
smshmth8690 : 3/15/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14339419 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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The offense was a piece away from being an Elite level even with Eli behind center.

Now we will have a great line, but will see loaded boxes to stop Saquon because we don't have an outside receiver at all.

Shep - Nice player nothing special slot guy
EE - Plays primarily in the slot
Tate - Another slot guy

We need an outside receiver and pretty badly because what we have now is just not going to cut it. I don't think we will be drafting a WR early either.

The defensive safeties are better. Markus Golden is a question mark and we need a proven CB and linebackers as well.

The defense is kind of a middle ground for me. Starting Safties have improved, pass rush is a giant question mark, and we have no depth at CB.


Well according to some recent 'Hints' I wouldn't get to attached to Shep.
RE: Ahem....forgot COREY COLEMAN  
mikeinbloomfield : 3/15/2019 10:24 am : link
In comment 14339483 5BowlsSoon said:
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You guys are going to be in for a surprise this year. The Giants like what they see. It takes time to learn a new system. That Resakins game was all I needed to see. Plus his KO returns are outstanding. Oh, how about 4.37 speed. Watch him.....donít forget 5bowls told you first. He is only 24 - ( New Window )


Coleman is only 24 and is on his fourth team. Why? Because he's a head case. Excuse me if I forget a guy who played in 8 games and caught 5 passes.
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Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 10:27 am : link
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Gettleman's plan isn't really that hard to understand. But these folks in the media, twitter, all that shit, they just can't help themselves when a team "appears" to not know what they are doing.

The Giants know what they are doing, it just isn't going to be all rainbows and butterflies on our way to get there.



What makes this hilarious, truly, is on the one hand, some here say it will be a few year(orlonger) rebuild and when DG takes steps to do just that(while still wanting to win obviously), we suddenly have zero direction. I know, Iím trying to figure out that line of (non) thinking as well



There was not a single poster who was more wrong about the team last year than you were. You consistently told us that they were really a good team and were about to turn it around every single week, all evidence to the contrary.

So maybe don't criticize other posters as (non) thinkers for a bit until you get something right yourself.
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Oh bullshit. Go back to the posts from last year. Donít misrepresent what my feelings were. I ALWAYS made it a point to say, that ďif we get even average to good OL play and give Eli the requisite time AND SB is all that they say he is, the O would be lethal and we would strongly contend in tge NFC, even with an average D.Ē Obviously it didnít happen as I had expected. Each week I expected the newbies on the OL to find that continuity and gel. They never did, at least not when it mattered. So do not mischaracterize what I said. I was very consistent with my OL DISCLAIMER.
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Tesla : 3/15/2019 10:33 am : link
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Oh bullshit. Go back to the posts from last year. Donít misrepresent what my feelings were. I ALWAYS made it a point to say, that ďif we get even average to good OL play and give Eli the requisite time AND SB is all that they say he is, the O would be lethal and we would strongly contend in tge NFC, even with an average D.Ē Obviously it didnít happen as I had expected. Each week I expected the newbies on the OL to find that continuity and gel. They never did, at least not when it mattered. So do not mischaracterize what I said. I was very consistent with my OL DISCLAIMER.


LOL, believe what you want, but you're kidding yourself about how wrong you were about the team last year. Every single week you told us how you still believed in this team.
RE: 6-10  
BIGbluegermany : 3/15/2019 10:47 am : link
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Thats how I feel right now

If they draft Devin White and another game wrecking defensive guy with the #17 pick maybe 8-8


OH yeah,give me Devin White and Dexter Lawrence
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Big Blue '56 : 3/15/2019 10:55 am : link
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Oh bullshit. Go back to the posts from last year. Donít misrepresent what my feelings were. I ALWAYS made it a point to say, that ďif we get even average to good OL play and give Eli the requisite time AND SB is all that they say he is, the O would be lethal and we would strongly contend in tge NFC, even with an average D.Ē Obviously it didnít happen as I had expected. Each week I expected the newbies on the OL to find that continuity and gel. They never did, at least not when it mattered. So do not mischaracterize what I said. I was very consistent with my OL DISCLAIMER.



LOL, believe what you want, but you're kidding yourself about how wrong you were about the team last year. Every single week you told us how you still believed in this team.


Believe what I want? Go back and re-read what I wrote most of that year. Relying on your faulty memory and presenting it as an ďLOLĒ fact, is plain lazy and disingenous. AGAIN, take note of my consistent OL disclaimers which comprised most of my optimistic posts. ďBelieve what you wantĒ without any basis in fact is an easy way out. How hard would it be for you to man up and check up on what I said week in and week out? Oh wait, now youíll say, ďI donít have to go back, I recall exactly what you said. Itís hard to forget.Ē Please donít respond back until and when you do the classy thing and either refute or confirm my claims IN WRITING. If you donít, then I will not respond to you on this topic again, regardless of what your reply is
Canít be any worse!  
giantsFC : 3/15/2019 10:58 am : link
And if they are, itís Tau time!
Better team is a realistic possibility  
Bob in Newburgh : 3/15/2019 10:59 am : link
Really believe that the #6 pick is the key.

If we get a truly disruptive pass rusher, like Vernon was in his walk year at Miami, this defense becomes palatable. Rookies, if physically gifted, can do this.

Also have high hopes for the development of Lorenzo Carter.

Finally, (adequate FS should be available) with some of our later picks.

Also assuming that we lock down RT at #17.
The key to this coming season will be how the O-Line works together  
Mike in NJ : 3/15/2019 11:07 am : link
It is pretty clear that we have upgraded that unit. Solder looked really good the second half of last season, Hernandez was a stud last year and should be improved in year 2, and Zeitler is probably the best of the bunch. Upgrading RT is clearly a priority, the only question mark to me is at center. I am not sold on Halapio, and would be thrilled if we can find a replacement in the draft.

The offense was able to put up points towards the end of last season even without Beckham, and I think we will be pleasantly surprised at the production we get from the receiving corps. Is Tate a Beckham replacement? Of course not, but he can probably give us 70-80% of the production which should be good enough.

I think from a talent standpoint we are pretty neutral compared to last year on defense, but wouldn't be surprised to see an improved unit due to guys being more comfortable with the scheme. I honestly think Peppers is an upgrade over Collins, but Vernon to Golden is a small downgrade. It will be interesting to see what direction we go in the draft. Adding a pass rusher and an inside linebacker to take Goodson's spot could really elevate the unit. Some of the young guys like Hill and Carter should be better, and hopefully Beal will be an improvement over Apple/Webb.
Whoa whoa whoa  
Lionhart28 : 3/15/2019 11:10 am : link
What's with all this level-headed discussion here. I came for the dumpster fire, wtf?!?

In all seriousness, I agree. I think it's probably a 6-7 win team but actually starting to build something with young players. What a lot of the posters in the "sky is falling" threads don't realize is that signing a few older vets (Tate, Bethea, Remmers etc.) is fine since we are going to have something like 15 rookies on this team depending on how many picks they keep + UDFA. That veteran leadership will be crucial to their growth.
RE: RE: Quite honestly,  
eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 12:09 pm : link
In comment 14339406 Big Blue '56 said:
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Gettleman's plan isn't really that hard to understand. But these folks in the media, twitter, all that shit, they just can't help themselves when a team "appears" to not know what they are doing.

The Giants know what they are doing, it just isn't going to be all rainbows and butterflies on our way to get there.



What makes this hilarious, truly, is on the one hand, some here say it will be a few year(orlonger) rebuild and when DG takes steps to do just that(while still wanting to win obviously), we suddenly have zero direction. I know, Iím trying to figure out that line of (non) thinking as well


Itís the instant gratification society we live in now that has transcended into sports. Itís not exciting for the media to report on a three year rebuild so they unleash the stream of negativity while it is taking place which most true fans can see through. Giants will be fine, we had a poor GM who put us in a bad spot with years of poor drafting and tried to band aid it with splash free agents to save his job. Now Gettleman has the difficult task of burning the whole thing down and starting over, which is probably the only way to build a contender again.
This Is Why DAG Goes For It  
Giants38 : 3/15/2019 12:58 pm : link
Three days after the OBJ trade, nearly this whole thread thinks we will be an improved team. Some think we will break .500. He is selling fans ice in the winter, and people are buying it. The media may be looking for clicks. Many are also objectively viewing the situation and have no idea what the Giants are doing. This is utter nonsense.

To the OP: I think youíre crazy. To the rest of you: I look forward to this same stupid conversation next year when we find another excuse to run it back.
RE: This Is Why DAG Goes For It  
eric2425ny : 3/15/2019 1:15 pm : link
In comment 14340036 Giants38 said:
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Three days after the OBJ trade, nearly this whole thread thinks we will be an improved team. Some think we will break .500. He is selling fans ice in the winter, and people are buying it. The media may be looking for clicks. Many are also objectively viewing the situation and have no idea what the Giants are doing. This is utter nonsense.

To the OP: I think youíre crazy. To the rest of you: I look forward to this same stupid conversation next year when we find another excuse to run it back.


My guess is you are a glass half empty person?
I thought that we would be a playoff team or better last year  
Bill L : 3/15/2019 1:34 pm : link
so I should not make any more predictions ever.

Still, I think the offense is going to fine. Better than fine, actually. Especially if they sign a halfway decent FA RT.

If it were me, I would go for two of the best available DL guys with #6 and #17, even if they were both ER. I would hope for constant pressure because both players were of quality. My first OL guy would be with the 2nd or possibly third round pick, depending on availability. If a top corner unexpectedly fell into the second round I would go with him. Otherwise, I would look to the top OL or WR (unless Fant TE) fell. Third round, I would pick OL, unless I did it in the second round. Interior or OT, doesm't matter too much to me. The remaining picks would have some degree of consolidation and/or exchanging for 2020 picks with anyone else I'm drafting coming from the defensive side of the ball. I suppose one exception would be that if Stidham was available in the 4th or (taking a chance) 5th round, I would draft him and swap him for Tanney.
Oh yeah,  
Bill L : 3/15/2019 1:35 pm : link
bottom line of all that would be shoring up the defense and then I would almost go out on a limb and predict, for the second year in a row, playoffs.
No lies are more convincing than the ones we tell ourselves  
Greg from LI : 3/15/2019 1:37 pm : link
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RE: No lies are more convincing than the ones we tell ourselves  
Bill L : 3/15/2019 1:38 pm : link
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My whole life is one of self-delusion. Otherwise, I would never be able to get up in the morning or, probably more to the point, go home at night.
RE: No lies are more convincing than the ones we tell ourselves  
Go Terps : 3/15/2019 1:39 pm : link
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That was certainly true about Beckham for a lot of people here. I've been as negative as anybody this offseason, but they got better by shipping him and Vernon out of here.

There are still fundamental problems. Eli should be replaced and Shurmur is a poor coach, but the last few days have been positive.
Just as long as everyone agrees...  
EricJ : 3/15/2019 1:43 pm : link
that it is way too soon to give a real prediction. This roster will not be the same in August
I wouldn't be totally shocked  
santacruzom : 3/15/2019 1:50 pm : link
BUT... let's not forget that Shurmur needs to improve dramatically.
RE: RE: No lies are more convincing than the ones we tell ourselves  
Bill L : 3/15/2019 2:05 pm : link
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That was certainly true about Beckham for a lot of people here. I've been as negative as anybody this offseason, but they got better by shipping him and Vernon out of here.

There are still fundamental problems. Eli should be replaced and Shurmur is a poor coach, but the last few days have been positive.


Well, I obviously have a different opinion on Eli as compared to you and most others. I think he needs to be replaced but for continuity and forward progress reasons as opposed to current ability. Unlike others, I don't think he holds the offense back and that with improved protection and, perhaps, specific game-planning, he can be quite successful, at least for one more season.
I mean we aren't done yet  
Amtoft : 3/15/2019 2:14 pm : link
First we got better when the OL improved at the end of the year and our OL is better this year than last and we aren't done. Even if Wheeler started again at RT we are still better, but I don't think he will.

Second We lost Collins, but we are better at safety imo because Peppers/Bethea is better than Collins/Riley. Collins actually had a rough year and missed what 4 games.

Third we lost Vernon added Golden and Lost OBJ and added Golden. Vernon to Marcus isn't as huge of a drop clearly as OBJ is to Tate. However OBJ missed 4 games and Tate is very durable. This is a huge loss, so I can't sugar coat it and we will need to make more upgrades to be better.

Fourth we have the 6th, 17th, and 37th. This is a very good draft. Assuming we don't go QB at 6 we have a chance to really improve this time with these picks. If we end up with 2 Def studs and a good OL it will make our team drastically better. For example if we end up with Ed Oliver pass rushing 3-4 DE, Clelin Ferrell Edge pass rusher, and Dalton Risner RT/C with 37. All 3 could make a major impact this year. We also have so many picks that will help with depth and/or someone could really brake out.

Fifth and last... We aren't done in FA. Maybe we sign Justin Houston? Remmers? more depth and players are still out there. Let us finish our roster and then we will know if we have a chance to be better, good, bad, or worse.
I don't think our record will show it  
soz915 : 3/15/2019 2:21 pm : link
but I'm optimistic that the framework of this team is improved. I loved OBJ as a player, and sad to see him go, but bringing back 2 quality starters to fill holes, stock piling draft picks, and signing most guys to 1 year deals means we're setting ourselves up for next offseason and longer term success.

We have tons of cap room the next two years and will have a roster full of young, drafted talent. Would be great if we're competitive this year, but if not, DG is arming us for the future.
How could you "like" Bethea?  
Leg of Theismann : 3/15/2019 2:24 pm : link
He's 35 years old and clearly the DB version of the Jonathon Stewart signing. The thing I've learned about Gettleman is you know when he's made a dumb decision/signing. There is no hidden genius to these moves. It's just old-school "call 'em how I see 'em" hubris that became outdated in like 1973.
RE: How could you  
Amtoft : 3/15/2019 2:32 pm : link
In comment 14340309 Leg of Theismann said:
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He's 35 years old and clearly the DB version of the Jonathon Stewart signing. The thing I've learned about Gettleman is you know when he's made a dumb decision/signing. There is no hidden genius to these moves. It's just old-school "call 'em how I see 'em" hubris that became outdated in like 1973.


He is Jonathon Stewart if Stewart was coming off a 1200+ yard season and played almost all the snaps. That is a stupid comment.
I'll believe in  
family progtitioner : 3/15/2019 2:39 pm : link
a future for this team once a new QB comes on board. Until then I predict more shellackings on Sunday night, Monday night football with the entire NFL watching bad old Eli continue to get pounded.

Yes, I'm that cynical and down on this team.
I agree with the OP  
mrvax : 3/15/2019 2:44 pm : link
As far as WR goes, it's hard for me to quantify a #1, #2, #3 WR. I'll just say we could really use a burner that a defense will have to pay attention to. A lot of Beckham's catches will have to be spread out more. Engram may have 70-80 catches in 2019.

For the missing RT, we need to look hard into Remmers and Ryan Schraeder. Veldheer has missed games in his last 3 seasons. We could draft a RT if they can get 1st or 2nd round talent.

As for quarterback, yeah, they have to find Eli's replacement soon or extend him if he magically becomes the old Eli (2011) with a decent Oline.
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