Devin Bush would not be a bad get at 17, especially if they go ER with the 6th pick.
I really want the Giants to be one of those teams that has a great YOUNG MLB. Been so long and is one of those positions the Giants, for whatever reason, always seem they could fill with retreads or late round picks.
Brian Burns may be, and he would be a difference maker. Dexter Lawrence might be another. I'm not wild about the CBs, they could take a shot at one of them.
I don't know who will be there at 17. Hell, based on what I'm reading, there's a solid chance that Ed Oliver Jr. may drop. If Burns is there, we should pounce.
I'm very high on the CB and S class. Higher than most. I think Byron Murphy Jr. is a top-12 prospect, Deandre Baker isn't too far behind, I can see a team falling in love with Greedy Williams's measurements, Trayvon Mullen is no slouch.
I think Chauncey Gardner-Johnson is a top-20 prospect, Adderley isn't too far behind...
knowing full well I will be skewered, hammered, mocked, and pronounced the board fool, but here goes.
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
knowing full well I will be skewered, hammered, mocked, and pronounced the board fool, but here goes.
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
Most experts have Hockenson going in the top 10. His teammate (also a TE) Noah Fant could also be a first round pick. Fant is essentially Engram, but there is a team out there that is going to take him in the first.
knowing full well I will be skewered, hammered, mocked, and pronounced the board fool, but here goes.
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
That would be a very good pick and allow EE to play outside more..
knowing full well I will be skewered, hammered, mocked, and pronounced the board fool, but here goes.
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
That would be a very good pick and allow EE to play outside more..
With all our needs at defense and o line, going high picking a TE would cause a riot
to be some good choices for Def at 17. Plus someone always falls and in this deep draft that could mean there are quite a few good ones available. OL also could be a nice spot.
In particular here are some prospects projected in the teens that are of interest. The top 2 are Christian Wilkins and Brian Burns. Wilkins is a flat out stud at 315 pounds and still almost matched the type of athletic numbers put up by Fletcher Cox. He has freaky athleticism for a guy that size and made as many disruptive plays as anyone in the country (TFLs, blocks, 15 passes knocked down in his career). He was also the clear leader of a dominant team full of top 30 players in this draft. Burns is like Leonard Floyd, except better across the board in every way - more productive, more instinctive, more big plays, more polished moves. He’s young and played on some bad FSU teams but I think he has Jason Taylor/Jevon Kearse upside. I’d have no issue taking either of those guys at 6.
Beyond those 2 (and the unanimous top 5 overall) there are a lot of other names we’ve all seen mentioned. Ed Oliver is the closest thing to Aaron Donald since, and while that’s an unrealistic comp Gerald McCoy level athleticism is there. Montez Sweat broke every record at the combine and was way more productive than Floyd too, though he doesn’t seem to be as natural of a rusher. Same with Gary. Devin White is every bit the every down Lb Roquan Smith was last year. That’s 11 guys total with a strong emphasis on D, so yes, it seems possible there will be a real difference maker in range at 17 as there was last year w Derwin James and Vander Esch.
come out of the first round with some combo like Sweat/Dillard or White/Burns, there's going to be a lot of happy campers on this board...for a change. :-)
Is the guy I want at #17. Doubt he’ll be there. Great blocker - would set the edge for us and make any OT instantaneously better. Barkley would kiss his feet every Sunday.
I really want the Giants to be one of those teams that has a great YOUNG MLB. Been so long and is one of those positions the Giants, for whatever reason, always seem they could fill with retreads or late round picks.
I am hoping the first two picks are on the defensive side of the ball and the 2nd rounder goes to the best OT available.
I'm very high on the CB and S class. Higher than most. I think Byron Murphy Jr. is a top-12 prospect, Deandre Baker isn't too far behind, I can see a team falling in love with Greedy Williams's measurements, Trayvon Mullen is no slouch.
I think Chauncey Gardner-Johnson is a top-20 prospect, Adderley isn't too far behind...
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
Most experts have Hockenson going in the top 10. His teammate (also a TE) Noah Fant could also be a first round pick. Fant is essentially Engram, but there is a team out there that is going to take him in the first.
Mack Wilson
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
That would be a very good pick and allow EE to play outside more..
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knowing full well I will be skewered, hammered, mocked, and pronounced the board fool, but here goes.
"With the 17th pick in the 2019 NFL draft, the New York Giants pick T.J. Hockenson, Tight End out of Iowa" followed by a room full of "boos".
Assuming we'll get a stud defensive player with pick 6 and there will be a run on such players, we shock the world and get the next Jason Witten type player who was overlooked because of the frenzy of good defensive players going fast
That would be a very good pick and allow EE to play outside more..
With all our needs at defense and o line, going high picking a TE would cause a riot
Wow, when’s the last time, you, as a big College guy, have seen that?
history shouldn't dictate future, but man that's just poor usage of draft picks.
Also, I've heard Hockenson compared to Kelce, but is Kelce really a good blocker?
Not sure. I don't think he's known for blocking.
Andre Dillard or Jonah Williams, if he falls.
Beyond those 2 (and the unanimous top 5 overall) there are a lot of other names we’ve all seen mentioned. Ed Oliver is the closest thing to Aaron Donald since, and while that’s an unrealistic comp Gerald McCoy level athleticism is there. Montez Sweat broke every record at the combine and was way more productive than Floyd too, though he doesn’t seem to be as natural of a rusher. Same with Gary. Devin White is every bit the every down Lb Roquan Smith was last year. That’s 11 guys total with a strong emphasis on D, so yes, it seems possible there will be a real difference maker in range at 17 as there was last year w Derwin James and Vander Esch.
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would jump at if he was there at 17?
Andre Dillard or Jonah Williams, if he falls.
I agree but for me it would depend on what passrushing talent is available at 27.
Devin White, LB, LSU
Jerry Tillery, DT, Notre Dame
Brian Burns, Edge, FSU
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A defender could be selected at all 32 spots in round one and every team would have selected a quality defender.
Wow, when’s the last time, you, as a big College guy, have seen that?
I don't think ever. Now, there isn't an off-the-chart defender like LT, Bruce Smith, Deion, etc, but the depth is remarkable.
Personally, I think the sneakiest position this year is WR. I think there are close to 20 players worthy of taking in the first four rounds.
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A defender could be selected at all 32 spots in round one and every team would have selected a quality defender.
Wow, when’s the last time, you, as a big College guy, have seen that?
I don't think ever. Now, there isn't an off-the-chart defender like LT, Bruce Smith, Deion, etc, but the depth is remarkable.
Personally, I think the sneakiest position this year is WR. I think there are close to 20 players worthy of taking in the first four rounds.
No OBJs of course, but how many would you guestimate have #1 receiver potential?
I don't know if they should be there, but if they are I'd love it.