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Would you trade up for Josh Allen if he was there at #4?

GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 12:46 pm
I think the Jets could take Quinnen Williams at #3 with their pick.
Would probably cost  
jeff57 : 3/15/2019 12:49 pm : link
The 3, the first 4 and one of the 5s. Might do it.
I would trade  
Amtoft : 3/15/2019 12:51 pm : link
up for Josh Allen, Nick Bosa, or Quinnen Williams as long as it didn't cost me #17 or our 2nd rounder. I don't think the Raiders will trade down though as they already have so many picks. You would have to jump to the Jets and I think they want more.
I wouldn't  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 12:58 pm : link
it would cost the 2nd round pick and probably a 3rd as well. I would rather stay at 6 and take Sweat than give up all that to move up for Allen.
RE: Would probably cost  
Jay on the Island : 3/15/2019 12:59 pm : link
In comment 14340006 jeff57 said:
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The 3, the first 4 and one of the 5s. Might do it.

Last year it cost the Jets the 6th pick and three 2nd's to go from 6 to 3. There is no way the Giants are only giving up a 3rd, 4th and 5th to go from 6 to 4.
RE: RE: Would probably cost  
jeff57 : 3/15/2019 1:00 pm : link
In comment 14340043 Jay on the Island said:
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In comment 14340006 jeff57 said:


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The 3, the first 4 and one of the 5s. Might do it.


Last year it cost the Jets the 6th pick and three 2nd's to go from 6 to 3. There is no way the Giants are only giving up a 3rd, 4th and 5th to go from 6 to 4.


The 6 is included. Thought that was self-evident.
Absolutely not given what it would cost.  
yatqb : 3/15/2019 1:01 pm : link
Why give up a top pick or two for one player when we need so much?
Depends on the cost  
WillVAB : 3/15/2019 1:02 pm : link
But I love Allen. He looks like the next Mack.
RE: Absolutely not given what it would cost.  
WillVAB : 3/15/2019 1:04 pm : link
In comment 14340052 yatqb said:
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Why give up a top pick or two for one player when we need so much?


Truly elite pass rushers are about as hard to find as QBs. Look at the market.
The 3 top Def players are elite  
Amtoft : 3/15/2019 1:12 pm : link
If you can get one of them and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg you do it. Give an Arm... Give a leg ... just not both.

As for last year that was a QB draft and to move up for QBs cost more.
I think SF takes Williams at #2 after their recent moves.  
BigBlue2112 : 3/15/2019 1:13 pm : link
They're pretty set at DE and need to bolster their interior spots. NYJ then for the 3rd straight year luck out and arguably get the best player in the draft in Bosa.
Will, most teams need them so why would a team trade down  
yatqb : 3/15/2019 1:14 pm : link
unless they get a lot to do so?
No.  
TC : 3/15/2019 1:16 pm : link
I wouldn't trade up in this draft for anyone. The Giants have 12 picks and I'd like to see them use every one. It's not as if the Giants are missing one key piece to having a great team. There are needs all over the board, and this draft may be a little bit narrow at the pinnacle but fattens up and looks promising from there through the middle. There's going to be really good players available at both #6 and #17, and in this draft I'd like to see the Giants do BPA at a position of need for each. Mocks are just fantasy land, but entertaining myself with them I realized that I'd be THRILLED with ANY of the players projected at either #6 or #17.

However, I have a feeling that if the Giants believe their next franchise QB is in this draft, they might very well package both picks to grab him. But I'm not sure he is.
Absolutely not  
MM_in_NYC : 3/15/2019 1:50 pm : link
Cost would be to high and we have too many holes.
We have our stud on Offense  
Little boy Lost : 3/15/2019 2:00 pm : link
We need one or more on defense. If they think heís the goods you go get him.
RE: Depends on the cost  
Pan-handler : 3/15/2019 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14340054 WillVAB said:
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But I love Allen. He looks like the next Mack.


If the cost isn't that big maybe...but a moderate to high cost is too much given that you can get Montez Sweat there at 6 who has similar upside with more size to boot.
nah  
Greg from LI : 3/15/2019 2:04 pm : link
The more picks they make, the better their chances of hitting on one, and god knows this team desperately needs to hit on some picks.
No, it's just too deep a draft  
montanagiant : 3/15/2019 2:15 pm : link
for a few of our needs to do it.
Take out either the 4 or the five  
Chip : 3/15/2019 2:19 pm : link
I would do it. I doubt we keep 12 draft picks
We need to be in collection mode of good players  
Jimmy Googs : 3/15/2019 2:19 pm : link
all over the place, and not elite players in a few spots.

The latter did not work...
I'm only trading back.  
Tim in Eternal Blue : 3/15/2019 2:22 pm : link
Not up
RE: We need to be in collection mode of good players  
GFAN52 : 3/15/2019 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14340277 Jimmy Googs said:
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all over the place, and not elite players in a few spots.

The latter did not work...


Fair point, but it was nice to have a difference maker defense.
I'm not trading any  
mrvax : 3/15/2019 2:24 pm : link
of our day 1 or day 2 picks. The rest, OK but we need to keep a few of them and try to get lucky with an offensive lineman or WR.
It was nice to have an all-world WR too  
Jimmy Googs : 3/15/2019 2:25 pm : link
but lets try and create a better overall roster this time...
I'd love Josh Allen  
allstarjim : 3/15/2019 2:34 pm : link
But I think when you are trying to build a roster up from scratch (or near it), I think you need to simply acquire talent where it falls to you and keep your picks.

Exception is trading later round picks to move up into the first 3 and sometimes 4 rounds. I would move future mid-late round picks to move up and get another 3rd rounder that I really liked, for example, because the bust rate is much higher in those later rounds.
If Gettleman is a talent genius  
morrison40 : 3/15/2019 3:05 pm : link
He will keep his first 3 picks, after he has gutted the team, we barely have a starting lineup, certainly no depth
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mattyblue : 3/15/2019 3:09 pm : link
In comment 14340046 jeff57 said:
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In comment 14340043 Jay on the Island said:


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The 3, the first 4 and one of the 5s. Might do it.


Last year it cost the Jets the 6th pick and three 2nd's to go from 6 to 3. There is no way the Giants are only giving up a 3rd, 4th and 5th to go from 6 to 4.



The 6 is included. Thought that was self-evident.


His point still remains. A 3rd a 4th and a 5th to swap 4 and 6 probably wouldnít work.
RE: Will, most teams need them so why would a team trade down  
WillVAB : 3/16/2019 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14340083 yatqb said:
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unless they get a lot to do so?


Teams do weird shit every year. Maybe a team loves a CB or WR and wants to pick up a pick or two and still get their guy.

Itís all moot anyways. The Raiders have a lot of picks so 4 overall probably isnít even for sale.
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