I say 2020. I think he brings back Eli next year, too, convincing us that every QB in the 2020 class is garbage, and people here eat it up like they do this year believing that this team is going to be good. Good news is with Eli back in the fold, we will be in the hunt for Trevor Lawrence in the 2021 Draft.
Gear up boys, there is going to be a whole lotta losing in the next couple years.
For the dummies, think of it as chewing gum and walking at the same time.
Objective A: Turn over as much of the roster as possible, ridding the team of malcontents or players you still have to make a financial decision or commitment on but don't want to.
Objective B: Within that, try to field the best team you can and win as many games as possible.
For the dummies, think of it as chewing gum and walking at the same time.
Objective A: Turn over as much of the roster as possible, ridding the team of malcontents or players you still have to make a financial decision or commitment on but don't want to.
Objective B: Within that, try to field the best team you can and win as many games as possible.
Gettleman is that you? Shouldn't you be at bingo night
From 2013 to 2017 we changed every single player but Eli and DeOssie. We changed all coaches, management
Same results.
How can you possibly talk about a rebuild without the singke mosy impirtant position in all of sports?
Its like saying you changed a house becsuse you painted and put in new carpets and furniture. What difference does it make if you have a rotten foundation?
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With this poster.
The only rhing he posts about is Eli. It’s not about a rebuild or making smart deals. He just whines about Eli.
That’s what you don’t get. I “whine” about Eli BECAUSE of what it signifies. It signifies that this organization has no direction. The vets in Carolina despised DG there too. Was he getting rid of the rot there?
This team needs a new direction. We aren’t doing that until we move on from Eli. You can call me what you want. If you don’t see that, too, then you’re as naive as they come.
We need to start a BBI Lexicon.
“When are we going to start a true rebuild?” really means, “”When are we going to dump Eli?”
“The Giants have no plan or direction!” Really means The Giants have a plan, it’s just not my plan!”
I’m sure there are more we could come up with.
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For you it is clear, Eli must be gone. Fine you are entitled to your opinion. But an earlier comment in this thread by you outlined a few prospects. You want a specific type. Any QB outside of your defined ideal is met with derision. How is that appropriate? You want Eli gone, but don't want to accept any QB outside of your ideals.
That’s not what I said. I don’t have a specific “type”. I like Haskins - a pocket passer - and Murray - a much smaller QB who can do it all. To be clear, it is aggravating to me that the Giants seem blindly committed to Eli for the sake of it - not because it is what is best for the team.
But fine. I won’t start anymore threads or draft anymore posts. I’ll let you all chime in about how good the Giants will be this season as, in your heads, we fight for that PO spot.
Are you sure? I don't want to have to copy/paste your words to prove my point. If you are being honest with yourself, you are critical of Jones because he looks like Eli.
That is contradictory to your intent of this thread. A rebuild only starts when Eli is gone. So if Eli is gone and Jones is next in line, do we have to wait for you to like the QB in order to classify it as a "rebuild".
I’m not critical of Jones because he looks like Eli. I’m critical of Jones because of how he plays. If he had Eli’s talent, I’d be all for taking him. I think this team is going to take Jones in deference to Eli. It’s more about Eli. Eli has a relationship with him. Eli likes him. It’ continues to be all about Eli with a Jones selection. We need a clean break from that nonsense.
From 2013 to 2017 we changed every single player but Eli and DeOssie. We changed all coaches, management
Same results.
How can you possibly talk about a rebuild without the singke mosy impirtant position in all of sports?
Its like saying you changed a house becsuse you painted and put in new carpets and furniture. What difference does it make if you have a rotten foundation?
That’s it you figured it out..... it’s DeOssie’s fault😂😂
They've been tearing it down since DG took over, look at the roster.
It will take two years or more to strip it, and at least as long to restock it. While it's in progress, they're fielding the best team they can year to year and, of course, they're trying to win.
Enjoy the process, cease the insufferable whining.
Come on it’s more fun with the pitchforks and torches
With a 90% roster turnover so far (from Reese & Co.) it is a rebuild no matter what they call it.
They've been tearing it down since DG took over, look at the roster.
It will take two years or more to strip it, and at least as long to restock it. While it's in progress, they're fielding the best team they can year to year and, of course, they're trying to win.
Enjoy the process, cease the insufferable whining.
Good post. The OP seems to hate DG because he didn't pick Giants34's favorite shiny new QB.
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the highest paid OL in league last year... doesn't constitute rebuilding since they got here...
they added parts to make a run last year--- they added parts that would help Eli... this year they are turning things over a bit more but with similar thoughts in mind... to try to still make a run... to try to help Eli.
the optimist in me says they will nail 3-4 draft picks again, and with the abundance of cap space next year, be able to rebuild the roster... and either this year or next find the QB of the future
I don't disagree they're caught between one or the other if we're looking at in terms of black or white, Eli goes or we're not rebuilding type of perspective. But, how much of the roster has been turned over so far, 80%+
turning the roster over and replacing what was there with young players is rebuilding. Bringing in guys like Solder, Stewert, Bethea, Tate, Ogletree is something else. Half measures....
They've been tearing it down since DG took over, look at the roster.
It will take two years or more to strip it, and at least as long to restock it. While it's in progress, they're fielding the best team they can year to year and, of course, they're trying to win.
Enjoy the process, cease the insufferable whining.
Jon, I don't know why more people don't get this.